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    Quote Originally Posted by billkilpatrick View Post
    According to Dave Hynds, "Cyrano" was a German trade mark.
    I would expect that it would have a long pointed headstock with that name.

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    What's interesting is the 5th course - a single "C," I assume. Never seen that before:
    Isn't that how they string Waldzithers?

    The most common type has the tuning C3*G3 G3*C4 C4*E4 E4*G4 G4.
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    Hi all, I'm at it again, found another old Mandolin to restore. Anybody have a guess on the year? Made in Czechoslovakia.
    Thanks ahead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blindsay86 View Post
    Hi all, I'm at it again, found another old Mandolin to restore. Anybody have a guess on the year? Made in Czechoslovakia.
    Thanks ahead!
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    Hard to say for sure, I'd say could be anywhere from 1930's to 1950's. My gut feeling it is post-war, especially if it has painted fretboard. Czech town of Luby is only some 10 km from Markneukirchen in Germany and both places were known for musical instruments making and made instruments of similar designs. Post-war Czech instruments were often branded Artia or Cremona. What does the label say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic-victor View Post
    Hard to say for sure, I'd say could be anywhere from 1930's to 1950's. My gut feeling it is post-war, especially if it has painted fretboard. Czech town of Luby is only some 10 km from Markneukirchen in Germany and both places were known for musical instruments making and made instruments of similar designs. Post-war Czech instruments were often branded Artia or Cremona. What does the label say?
    Hi the fretboard appears to be painted. The label on the inside appears to read "Lignatone" and has a red Lion.Click image for larger version. 

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    Lignatone is definitely post war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic-victor View Post
    Lignatone is definitely post war.
    Thanks for the info, it's much appreciated! I've found them on EBAY for $80-$150, got mine for $25 any idea on what they're really worth?

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    If playable around $150.00 If not, about half if so.

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    Interesting German "boat-backed" mandolin on eBay uk

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    If it sounds as good as the similarly constructed waldzithers, it's probably a decent player, but someone is going to have to do some serious work on that horrible finish!

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    I would not call it boatback, more of a Portuguese Mandolin back but I believe this is typical Wappen style Mandolin.
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    These three popped up on a German auction site, I’ve no idea about them but they’re funky.
    The first one is a fiddle, but it using mandolin tech and the second is a mandolin using fiddle structure.
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    The third just couldn’t decide so went for both.
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    I don't have a clue how you would play the "turnover" one. These should also go in the Mandolin Oddities thread.

    Eoin, did they have additional photos on that site? If so, I would love to see the photos. I assume it wasn't eBay Germany.
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    Here's an interesting one on eBay UK

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    Very interesting but a little confusing provenance of this mandolin tho interesting design and construction too. It is a lot older than I thought it would be.
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    Vinaccia on eBay with a rather high asking price.

    Is this the real deal? It rather looks to me like a typical inter-war German made instrument? Rather interesting if it a Vinaccia though...

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    I think he has had that listed over and over for months now. I don’t think the condition is all that great to warrant the price he is asking.
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    Well this one's a bit silly - 16 string mandolin on eBay UK - some nice MOP, but just try keeping this one in tune Check out those tuners too:

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    John: do you have a link to the auction. Who is the maker?
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    Sorry Jim, link here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-VINT...19.m1438.l2649

    No clear image of the label, but the sellers description says: "P. COSENTINO MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS DEPOT, VALLETTA, MALTA"

    I'm fairly sure that's not the maker though...?

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