Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 86

Thread: Fender sb-4 (or sb-8?)

  1. #26
    ISO TEKNO delsbrother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Caulifonya
    Posts
    3,098

    Default

    Interesting that last one is stamped "used" on the back of the headstock.

  2. #27
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    All right, who let the cat out of the bag?

    They are ALL stamped "used." Five SB-4s and one SB-8 so far. The SB-8 seller mentioned to me that his instrument was marked "Made in Korea," so my theory is gaining strength. My impression is that the UK SB-4s are slab bodies, like these.

    I'm thinking, though, that if you have three of these and you want buyers to think they are "very rare," it's silly to throw all three of them on eBay at the same time.

    P.S. The fellow with the three SB-4s also admits his are made in Korea. That means we're probably dealing with nato wood, cheap pickup, et al. Am I wrong in thinking that "reissue" implies "matches the original specs" and therefore this shouldn't be called a "reissue"?



    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  3. #28
    Registered User Jim MacDaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Rotten City
    Posts
    3,915

    Default

    I've always wanted a matching pair of 4-string and 8-string seafoam green emandos -- but I think I'll wait until the market is flooded with these things and the price tanks.
    "The problem with quotes on the internet, is everybody has one, and most of them are wrong."
    ~ Mark Twain


    Mandolin shirts, hats, case stickers, & more at my Zazzle storefront

  4. #29
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    Jim, that should happen within the next 72 hours, by my calculations.
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  5. #30
    Registered User Jim MacDaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Rotten City
    Posts
    3,915

    Default

    The hits just keep on coming: here is another seafoam 8-string listing.

    Firebot, the seller of the first active 8-string auction advised that the nut width was 1-1/16", which seems pretty narrow -- what is the actual measurement on yours?



    "The problem with quotes on the internet, is everybody has one, and most of them are wrong."
    ~ Mark Twain


    Mandolin shirts, hats, case stickers, & more at my Zazzle storefront

  6. #31
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    Well, the three Buy It Now SB-4s are gone, and that seller claims they were the last three available from the distributor, Musical Instrument Reclamation Corp. in Tennessee. So the five SB-4s and two SB-8s we've seen may be all there was, or close to it.
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  7. #32
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    Presenting Liz Prendergast of UK band "Bluehorses":

    It's definitely an SB-4 (note pickup placement). Must be one of the "Sonic Blue" ones.



    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	liz_prendergast2.JPG 
Views:	51 
Size:	29.6 KB 
ID:	28890  
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  8. #33

    Default

    Hi,

    sorry for the delay in responding. I've been traveling... I've never had the neck off my SB-8. It doesn't actually say "SB-8" anywhere on mine. I just hypothisized that name...

  9. #34
    Registered User jefflester's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,156

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by (mrmando @ Jan. 10 2008, 23:43)
    The plot thickens. A seafoam 8-string has surfaced...
    Quote Originally Posted by (jimmacd @ Jan. 12 2008, 08:52)
    The hits just keep on coming: here is another seafoam 8-string listing.
    Hey, anybody noticed they're being called "FM988"?

    And the first one says:
    Our research has shown that this may be a somewhat rare model, manufactured specifically for a Canadian distributor around 2001. #It was made in Korea and may actually be a model SB-8. The SB-8 only came in Sonic Blue or Red except for a very small number made specifically for a Canadian distributor that were Seafoam Green. It is possible that some of those were stored in the distributor's warehouse all this time and recently sold to a US distributor / refurbisher.... This instrument is stamped USED on the back of the headstock and no factory warranty is available.


    The second one says:

    *Stamped Used the finish is a bit discolored on the edges of the body
    ....
    There is a Used or 2nd stamp on the back of the headstock. #This is an imprint stamp, not a sticker or ink stamp. #If there is a serial number it has been partially removed. #All of our Used or 2nd guitars are stamped at the factory before they are sold to our distributor. #Our distributor is a large refurbishing center....#The Used and 2nd stamps in addition to the partial removal of the serial number protects you, the consumer, from someone selling a refurbished guitar as a new guitar and it protects the manufacturer from warranty claims as there are no warranties on these guitars.


    and the second one clearly has a "2" stamp and a "Made in Korea" label on the back.

  10. #35
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    FM988 is how the distributor listed them, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  11. #36
    Registered User jefflester's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,156

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by (jefflester @ Jan. 14 2008, 18:46)
    Quote Originally Posted by (mrmando @ Jan. 10 2008, 23:43)
    The plot thickens. A seafoam 8-string has surfaced...
    Quote Originally Posted by (jimmacd @ Jan. 12 2008, 08:52)
    The hits just keep on coming: here is another seafoam 8-string listing.
    Both are up in the $240 range now, with the one Jim linked closing in 5&1/2 hours.

  12. #37
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Sweden - Skφvde
    Posts
    32

    Default

    I actually got one of these mandolins, the eight string variant. The color is sonic blue. I have however removed four of the strings, running it as a four string since that sounds better when playing with overdrive.

    I bought mine at a music store called "Gitarren" in Gφteborg (Gothenburg) in Sweden. The price was 2000SEK at a discount (about 300$ with the current dollar price). I have however replaced the original pickup with one from SJ Ryder. I also did not like the sonic blue color so now I have the mandolin wrapped in newspaper.

    Here is, however, a picture of me playing with my band before I wrapped it in newspaper:
    http://www.snortingmaradonas.se/alcazar/4.jpg

    There is also a picture of it at the mainpage of my Swedish mandolin site: http://www.mandolinist.tk

    To hear what it sounds like, visit my punk band's MySpace and listen to the song "20 Spδnn". The solo/melody is played on that mandolin: http://www.myspace.com/snortingmaradonas

    Ooh, another funny thing I would like to add is that one of these SB8s (or whatever their name is) appeared on Swedish national television just a couple of weeks ago. It were played by a guy in the band "Triple & Touch" on the television show "Pε Spεret", aired on prime time. It was a big suprise for me to see a copy of my own mandolin on TV. It had the same color, sonic blue.



    Check out www.myspace.com/snortingmaradonas for a Swedish punk band where I play emando

  13. #38
    ISO TEKNO delsbrother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Caulifonya
    Posts
    3,098

    Default

    Snorting Maradonas >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>> Crimson Dynamo

  14. #39
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Sweden - Skφvde
    Posts
    32

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by (delsbrother @ Jan. 18 2008, 10:08)
    Snorting Maradonas >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>> Crimson Dynamo
    I'm sorry? I don't understand a thing
    Check out www.myspace.com/snortingmaradonas for a Swedish punk band where I play emando

  15. #40
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    Sorry, Erik, it's sort of a private joke. "Crimson Dynamo" is the name of a comic book villain, but it was also reportedly the name of a Japanese punk band featuring electric mandolins, discussed several years ago on this forum. However, no proof was offered that the band ever actually existed. I tend to think it was a hoax.

    But now, thanks to you, we know there is such a band, only it's in Sweden, not Japan. Who would have guessed?

    I enjoyed the clips on your MySpace page. I like the sound of your Fender and hope you find more opportunities to use it in your band. I also liked the horns!
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  16. #41
    Registered User jefflester's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,156

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by (mrmando @ Jan. 18 2008, 10:38)
    Sorry, Erik, it's sort of a private joke. "Crimson Dynamo" is the name of a comic book villain, but it was also reportedly the name of a Japanese punk band featuring electric mandolins, discussed several years ago on this forum. However, no proof was offered that the band ever actually existed. I tend to think it was a hoax.
    The TEKNO story, from Martin's (mrmando) emando site:
    http://emando.com/tekno.htm




  17. #42
    ISO TEKNO delsbrother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Caulifonya
    Posts
    3,098

    Default

    Yes, Erik, I am saying your band is MUCH MUCH greater than (&gt TEKNO! (And I love the idea of TEKNO) It's great to finally hear emando in this context!

  18. #43

    Default

    Hey CLeRIK, could you post a pic of your mandolin after you wrapped it in newspaper? Thanks...

  19. #44
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Sweden - Skφvde
    Posts
    32

    Default

    Yeah, I've read about the Tekno thing on emando.com earlier. I just didn't remember the name of the "band"

    And yes, I use my emando on some songs. We're making a new album now and the mando is used on many of them, it's primary function is that of a lead guitar so I'm playing mostly solos and melodies. I'm the lead singer in the band also, and we only have one guitar and since I can't play guitar I use the mando instead There is actually acoustic mando (an Italian bowl-back made in 1916 in Sicilia) on the tracks "Att slδcka en eldsjδl" and "Kungliga Jiggen", also at our MySpace.

    I haven't got many good high-res pictures of my mando wrapped in paper, so you can't see much of the detail. Here is however two pictures from a gig this summer:

    http://SnortingM.bilddagboken.se/index.p....W1nPTcw
    http://SnortingM.bilddagboken.se/index.p....W1nPTgw

    It's great to hear that you like the stuff we do. If you wan't us to play at your place we're ready to go!
    Check out www.myspace.com/snortingmaradonas for a Swedish punk band where I play emando

  20. #45
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    It's apparent that FM-984 and FM-988 are the correct model numbers for the instruments now being sold on the U.S. eBay site. Reportedly some of the Fiesta Red and Sonic Blue ones were sold under those model numbers in Germany and Sweden; I guess they would include Eric's. Perhaps "SB-4" and "SB-8" apply to these models only in the UK.

    Here's a complete list of the Seafoam Green instruments that have appeared on the U.S. eBay site in the past month. So far it appears that sixteen 4-strings and eight 8-strings have been listed. Six of the instruments have appeared twice (and one of these has appeared three additional times): four sold and are being/were resold by the winning bidder; one didn't sell and was relisted; one sold and was refunded, and was sold after being relisted.

    A couple of the instruments in the following list have also appeared on the Cafe Classifieds. In addition, one Cafe member says he knows of two instruments that have sold privately, and may have never been listed on eBay.

    Yes, 370016994226 went to me. All that obsessive searching finally paid off.

    URL Model Price Closing date Comment
    360009728158 FM-984 $1,000 5-Jan
    270202087935 FM-984 $226.07 8-Jan BIN
    310014296431 FM-984 $299 11-Jan BIN
    300189713968 FM-984 $635 12-Jan BIN
    300189714922 FM-984 $650 12-Jan BIN
    300189711297 FM-984 $650 12-Jan BIN
    110212097558 FM-984 $855.01 13-Jan
    160197975490 FM-988 $305.99 16-Jan
    180205429776 FM-988 $310 17-Jan reserve not met, relisted in 180211696683
    290199913343 FM-988 $259 20-Jan BIN
    370016994226 FM-984 $246.50 24-Jan BIN
    150209916930 FM-988 $256.88 24-Jan BIN; refunded, relisted as 150211977189
    330206503706 FM-984 $798 25-Jan
    300194212463 FM-984 $775 27-Jan BIN; same instrument listed in 300189713968
    300194222558 FM-984 $259 27-Jan BIN
    180211696683 FM-988 $304.95 30-Jan BIN; relisting of 180205429776
    150211977189 FM-988 $256.88 31-Jan BIN; relisting of 150209916930
    300194059652 FM-988 $510 2-Feb same instrument listed in 290199913343
    220196206650 FM-984 $590 2-Feb
    250210484524 FM-984 $545 3-Feb looks more like Sonic Blue
    150210784310 FM-984 $410 3-Feb
    170189495311 FM-988 $384.01 3-Feb
    310019988822 FM-988 $379 3-Feb BIN
    150211404135 FM-984 $510 5-Feb
    170190043628 FM-988 $481 5-Feb
    180212991225 FM-984 $1,495 6-Feb BIN; previously listed; most likely 110212097558; did not sell
    180213833159 FM-984 $1,495 9-Feb BIN; relisting of 180212991225; did not sell
    200199061112 FM-984 $1,495 12-Feb BIN; relisting of 180213833159; did not sell
    330211832749 FM-984 $450 20-Feb
    330211825634 FM-988 $440 20-Feb
    180215763095 FM-984 starting bid is $0.99; relisting of 200199061112
    200201286644 FM-984 $995 BIN; previously listed; most likely 220196206650
    350027823561 FM-984 $449 20-Feb BIN; case and strap included



    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  21. #46
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    And why, you ask, are people going nuts over seafoam green 4-string electric mandolins in this country?

    Two words: Eva Holbrook!
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  22. #47
    Registered User jefflester's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,156

    Default

    Wow Martin, thanks for all the research.

  23. #48
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    Check out 250210484524 and compare the color to the others that have been listed. This one's definitely Sonic Blue, unless the seller's camera is way off.
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

  24. #49
    ISO TEKNO delsbrother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Caulifonya
    Posts
    3,098

    Default

    I'm getting that Guitar Center X9 feeling all over again!

  25. #50
    Martin Stillion mrmando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    11,451

    Default

    I don't know what that is, but it doesn't sound like a good thing.
    Emando.com: More than you wanted to know about electric mandolins.

    Notorious: My Celtic CD--listen & buy!

    Donaldson • Wood • Thormahlen • Andersen • Old Wave • Bacorn • Yanuziello • Fender • National • Gibson • Franke • Fuchs • Aceto • Three Hungry Pit Bulls

Similar Threads

  1. Fender Amp Can ?
    By Gitpik in forum Theory, Technique, Tips and Tricks
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: Jan-27-2006, 12:22pm
  2. Fender F
    By Jim Yates in forum General Mandolin Discussions
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: Dec-22-2005, 6:48pm
  3. Fender G-DEC
    By JeffS in forum Equipment
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Dec-05-2005, 1:21am
  4. Here's my Fender
    By wmferg in forum Videos, Pictures & Sound Files
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: Sep-07-2005, 2:19pm
  5. '64 Fender
    By uncle ken in forum Four, Five and Eight-String Electrics
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: Feb-19-2004, 4:17pm

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •