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    Here's an interesting xray image of a 24' H5 with virzi.
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    Here's an interesting xray image of a 24' H5 with virzi.
    Cool one! You can see te tiny positioning pin in the single foot of the Virzi.
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    Yeah I would think the position of the Virzi would have a noticeable impact on tone. Do all Virzis (guitars, mandolins, etc.) have the positioning pins?

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    Yeah I would think the position of the Virzi would have a noticeable impact on tone. Do all Virzis (guitars, mandolins, etc.) have the positioning pins?
    I believe yes, Gibson used pins in many other places on instruments as well and mandolin x rays show them too (or at least void hole once the Virzi is removed). And also notches in the tonebars where the double foot fits (this picture is taken frm an angle so the notches are not visible).
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    here is an example of a Feb18 with the notches that Adrian mentioned
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    here is an example of a Feb18 with the notches that Adrian mentioned
    John, is there a chnce that this Loar never had the virzi installed? Or removed at factory with back off? I cannot see a trace of glue where the feet were attached (usually bright white on the CT/x-ray) and no damage to the notches that can result from removal...
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    Virzi was indeed there and removed by Monteleone in the 80's I believe.... Owner at the time made the decision and both he and John M, were really happy with the operation

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    I cannot see a trace of glue where the feet were attached (usually bright white on the CT/x-ray) and no damage to the notches that can result from removal...
    What is the current thinking about how best to perform a Virziectomy? (NOT the wisdom of it - we can save that for its own thread.) But I would think that a back-off removal would be warranted these days, given the value of the instruments, so as to ensure no lasting damage to top or tone bars. Or perhaps the 'endoscopic surgery' approach has become more sophisticated since the days of 'hammer and screw driver through the end pin hole'!
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    I think endoscopic surgery would still be least invasive method but given the value these days, more sofisticated tools would be used. You can apply some water to the feet of the Virzi (through f holes with syringe or pipette with long tube) to soften the glue for easier removal. You can after that completely remove the feet from the disc and perhaps pull the disc out undamaged.
    But clothes hanger is much faster and cheaper :-)
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    Now I am curious if the Virzi was 'centered' on the centerline, or centered between the tone bars?
    Love those images!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoGo View Post
    I think endoscopic surgery would still be least invasive method but given the value these days, more sofisticated tools would be used. You can apply some water to the feet of the Virzi (through f holes with syringe or pipette with long tube) to soften the glue for easier removal. You can after that completely remove the feet from the disc and perhaps pull the disc out undamaged.
    But clothes hanger is much faster and cheaper :-)
    I have removed two via the "abortion method" It is quite easy actually. And, if you sharpen the inside crotch the 180 degree hook of your clothes hanger real well, you can split the disc into sections, and it glues back together almost invisibly
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    I recently learned that Bran Dillard, owner of Picker’s Supply, is selling #73726 July 9, ‘23. I had the opportunity to study this F-5 years ago. This mandolin greatly influenced my mandolin building.
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    Some more detailed photos.
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    I know of this mando and #73747, 7/9/23 that have one-piece backs. There may be another one out there. A rare feature amongst Loars.

    See post #1065 here: https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/s...the-Day/page43
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    Some more detailed photos.
    Troy, thank you for those photo’s. Very well done.
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