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    We will start over here. #Scott, please lock the other thread with Charlie being the last poster.

    150,000 views and 2000 posts. This new thread is in memory of our friend Charlie.



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    Class act, Darryl. I'm glad you requested it. That's a tribute to a man so respected and admired.

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    i was hoping someone would bring up dedicating that thread to charlie, esp with his last post - thanks darryl

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    A continuation of this thread in honor of Charlie Derringon and his marvelous contributions to the mandolin world. I've locked the old thread with Charlie's last post as the end of Chapter 1 of the story. His membership will remain with us active as long as this board exists.




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    What a great way to honor a valued member of the mandolin community.
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    I just glanced at the first post of the original thread, and although it wasn't by Charlie like the final post, it was a photo of 73732 which he once owned. This was one of two Loars that Charlie's wife Susan CT scanned to get the measurements.

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    In memory of the late Charlie Derrington.
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    In many respects Bill Monroes 72214 was damaged more than 73985. This is one of only a few photos of the mandolin after Charlie's restoration. The mandolins whereabouts are now unknown. It was discovered to be missing after Monroe passed away. I took this photo in Charlies office about 6 months after the vandalism
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    the back
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    Here is Charlies first Loar 74660
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    and the back
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    We have covered this before, but Charlies December 11, 23 Loar and the sisters in that batch mark a significant change in the stains Gibson chose for the Style 5. #The switch was from a walnut medium "sheraton" brown to a darker "sienna" type brown with some lamp black in it. #Like the difference between milk chocolate and dark semi-sweet chocolate. #This darker stain carried through to the 24's however they decreased the size of the sunburst quite a bit more. It appears that Charlie chose this slightly darker shade of brown for the new Master Models, essentially modeling them after the December 11, 23's



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    Here is a picture of Bill playing Charlie's (Loar?) mandolin at the first show Bill performed after having his two Loars smashed by a vandal. A show at the Nightstage, Cambridge, Massachusetts.

    I sent Charlie a high-res scan of this picture and he thanked me and told me he had it hanging in his office.

    I had a long-running email exchange with Charlie and will state that he was the best spokesman that Gibson could have had in the mandolin shop, or OAI. A true gentleman and one zealous about mandolins!
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    And here is a favorite picture of Charlie; just another day at work with a couple of Gibson customers.
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    This is great. What a wonderful idea.

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    73987 Before and after Charlie's work - mandopetes post above is "between"



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    Maybe I shouldn't even bring this up but I just noticed someone put up a Charlie Derrington signed Master Model for sale in the classifieds. This would have to be a coincidence as i can't imagine someone would do this at this time. It just doesn't seem right to me.

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    i've alway been curious as to why charlie never made any mandolins under his own name? i guess since he was employed by gibson during most of his career, this would have been a conflict of interest - but you would think there would be 1 or 2 out there.

    i also didnt realize until i read some of the obituaries, that charlie was only 51 - by doing some simple math, that would have made him around 30 when he restored Mon's Loar - that is an amazing amount of talent/knowledge/skill at that age.




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    If I'm not mistaken, the Loar Mr. Monroe is playing in the first picture Evan posted above is #81250. As I understand it, Charlie lent it to Bill while his other instruments were being re-assembled. I had an opportunity to play 81250 very briefly, and it is an incredible instrument. I guess it has some residual Monroe mojo.

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    I found this in the 1980 spring issue of "Mandolin World News" a couple of month ago. It is kind of an inspiration to me as a very young builder when ever I get over whelmed by the amount of knowledge of the other members of the board. I feel that there is not enough time in a life time to achieve what I have in mind for my mando building future, then I read this rather simple question that Mr. Derrignton asked just 5 years before his amazing restoration of Monroes Loar and It gives me hope.
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    Yes mandophil(e), that is 81250 in the pic Evan posted. Charlie did indeed loan it to Bill while he put Bill's back together. Charlie named this mandolin "Betsy". It is truely an amazing instrument with incredible mojo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (luckylarue @ Aug. 03 2006, 15:13)
    Maybe I shouldn't even bring this up but I just noticed someone put up a Charlie Derrington signed Master Model for sale in the classifieds. #This would have to be a coincidence as i can't imagine someone would do this at this time. #It just doesn't seem right to me.
    I was thinking the same thing when I saw it. It went "On Hold" and gone pretty quick. Maybe somebody could enlighten us on the transaction.



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    the one that sat at Gruhns for so long is gone too - and it was there 2 days ago, because there was a thread about it in the "looking for info" topics and i checked it out....and the response to the posters question was it wasnt all that great of a MM either.

    like it or not, under these circumstances, the value and desirablility of CD signed mandos are going to explode. it will be interesting - i have seen quite a few CD signed MM's that have sat unsold in dealers inventory - i bet they are all gone in a week.




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    Brian A,

    Just for what it's worth, your lovely April mandolin graces the very first and very last page of the old now locked thread



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    I guess we can call that April 25th the "Bookend Loar"

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