Is #16 actually You'll Find Her Name Written There? Or did "Watson Blues" later become YFHNWT? Either way, the A part is identical.
Originally Posted by (evanreilly @ Sep. 11 2005, 10:09)
Is #16 actually You'll Find Her Name Written There? Or did "Watson Blues" later become YFHNWT? Either way, the A part is identical.
I think that Bill wrote 'Watson's Blues' off of 'You'll Find Her Name Written There', which was recorded December 31st, 1954.
My understanding is that 'Watson's Blues' was something Bill & Doc Watson worked up while they were working at the Ash Grove club in 1963(??).
Probably Bill was noodling on the melody out back and Doc added the guitar run; new tune!
That's what Bill says when he introduces the tune, in the Folkways album. It's late and memory's fuzzy right now, but didn't he say that Doc was playing a blues riff and Bill liked it and transformed it into a tune? I think he says something about trying to use different musical forms (blues) to broaden the appeal of bluegrass.
does anyone have the entire song " We tried to keep our love a secret" ? This is the only place I've ever heard of this one.
[QUOTE] I think he says something about trying to use different musical forms (blues) to broaden the appeal of bluegrass.
That may be true. But I've also got a tape of him disapproving of Vassar Clements and others changing the time of tunes and making them into a different style. A PARADOX at least.
Nope. The fact that it's ok for Bill to do it doesn't mean it's ok for anybody else!
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Bill Monroe on air 1960's mp3 #(001)
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The latest offering that Jim Moss has put up has stuff I never heard.
A dobro playing with the BGB on 'Foggy Mountain Special'!
WHERE IS IT? IS IT ALREADY GONE?
Yeah! Dobro! Who was it? The style sounds very much like Mike Auldridge... not sure where he was at that time. Sounds a bit like Jerry Douglas but that was before his time, i think.
Just so everyone here sees this post: I will post more
here, however, there are some recordings I don't feel good
about posting here. I can post these in the next weeks.
For these I would suggest that interested parties contact
me at FWB@Candlewater.com with the text "RARERECORDINGS: " in
the subject line.
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I'll be away from fryday to monday. Don't post anything until i come back!
To the RARERECORDINGS listeners group:
I think I might wait for someone to post (here)
a list of songs before I post anymore files.
I think it is needed and a good thing to do.
It would be too much to ask, so I won't, to
have the musicians listed, however, that would
be really great for all listeners to these down
the road.
I understand that many listeners might not know the
tunes and therefore not be able to identify them.
For this I think Evan Reilly, Zeek, or someone who
may recognize the tunes could chime in.
There is some cryptic stuff down the road which I don't
know that even Evan will be able to identify, but we will see.
I am just getting warmed up.
The stuff I have presented so far should be pretty identifiable
from the lyrics. Think of this as a work for the people listening
down the road a few years.
I wonder how long, pages, we can make this topic last?
Jim Moss
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Hello, Jim,
i think the idea to wait until someone posts a song list is good and fair. Plus it lets people have time to listen to the recordings - which is the point, really - instead of overwhelming them with quantity. I'll take a crack at the bus tape when i come back from vacation, but unfortunately i'm new at this stuff and i don't know many bluegrass tunes.
Thanks again,
glauber
If you could work on the last link with Monroe
on the air, that would best for me. #I think they
have a list here of the bus tape. #There are more
bus tapes too. #I think I might have some of them.
Of course I have the ones I made, but the ones
that others made cover more tunes. Digging through
these tapes are like getting on a time machine
and just dropping in on a time in Bluegrass history.
I have some that were made in peoples homes
and some big biscuits were there for some reason.
oh... by the way we have an east coast schedule happening:
THE FRANK WAKEFIELD BAND
NOVEMBER SHOWS IN #NY & CT
Friday November 11, 2005
Parting Glass
Showtime 9:30 pm
Saratoga Springs, NY
Saturday November 12, 2005
The Baggot Inn
Showtime 8:00 pm
West Village, New York, NY
Tuesday November 15, 2005
Joyous Lake
Showtime 8:00 pm
42 Mill Hill Road
Woodstock, NY
Wednesday November 16, 2005
Turning Point Café
Showtime 8:00 pm
468 Piermont Ave.
Piermont, NY
Friday November 18, 2005
The Kirkland Art Center
Showtime 8:00 pm
East Park Row, Clinton, NY
Saturday November 19, 2005
East Hartford Parks & Rec.
Showtime 7:00 pm
East Hartford, CT
Contact Roger Moss regarding the Group Lessons
We wanted to get to the Boston area, but we have
not secured a venue. #
Info: #
FWB@candlewater.com
Thank you for your support.
Jim Moss
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Ok... I'll give it a whirl:
1. Arkansas Traveller
2. Footprints in the Snow
3. Gray Eagle
4. Love Come Home
5. <unknown instrumental> w/dobro (sounds a bit like Bluegrass Stomp?)
6. Nashville Blues
7. Sally Good'n
8. Little Joe
9. Lonesome Road Blues (instr)
10. Columbus Stockade Blues
11. Sally Good'n
12. I Live In The Past
13. A Beautiful LIfe
14. Train 45 (w/Monroe vocals)
15. Love Come Home
16. When My Blue Moon Turns to Gold Again
Musicians (nearly as I can tell)
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Bill Monroe - mando, vocals
Byron Berline - fiddle (or "Barn", as Bill calls him
Roland White - Guitar
Lamar Grier - Banjo
James Monroe - URB
Vic Jordan - quartet vocals
Was there more than one fiddler on that tape?
This was at the time when Bill was changing from
Berline to Greene. #
Also, I am thinking next the 1954 show from Bean Blossom.
I wonder if this is on the web or if everyone has
this already?
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Seems to be all "Barn" Berline.
I think the '54 BB show is on BluegrassBox. It's titled: "Bill Monroe & The Bluegrass Boys 09/19/54 Brown County Jamboree - Beanblossom".
Ok, well lets not do that one then.
That is a good one for sure.
What does "Source: SBD>MR>?>CDR" mean?
I digitally copied the tape made by Mr. Hedrick of the
first generation tape that was at the show. That is
Hedrick introducing the tape. The original tape was made
using the early bias systems which seem to me to lack
a stabilizing feedback loop, or AGC as we know it today.
The needles seem to really swing from background to peaks
more than later machines did. I used a mastering system with
limiting to capture the dynamic range on the dynamic range of the
modern recording systems. This was very typical of these pre 1960s
tapes. The tapes themselves were in great shape with only the
tape splices that had turned to white powder.
From memory I don't remember a lot of hiss. Hiss may have been a
product of the other person's (3rd gen) recording efforts or it may have been just
an old copy, probably be the one that Jerry Garcia made while spending a few
days at Hedrick's house. Hard to say. At that time in the 1950's the
power to Bean Blossom was very unstable requiring the use of a Variac
Variable Transformer to keep up with the sagging voltages.
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Not sure, Jim. MR is maybe MiniDisk Recorder? Just a guess. BluegrassBox has a lot of great material, but some of it is from multiple generations of recordings, mostly by amateurs, so i'm sure the quality suffers.
Hummm....
First cut is clearly 'Arkansas Traveller'
Footprints in the Snow
Grey Eagle
Love, Come Home
Foggy Mountain Special (with dobro)
Nashville Blues (probably Earl on banjo: 'bending it')
Sally Goodin
Little Joe
Lonesome Road Blues
Columbus Stockade (with Lloyd Buzzen??)
Sally G.
I Live in the Past
A Beautiful Life
Watermelons Hangin' on the Vine
Train 45
Love, Come Home
When My Blue Moon Turns to Gold Again
I don't think Richard Greene is present on this tape. This is the band following the Rowan-Greene band; altho Lamar is on a few cuts.
The BGB are as I hear it, James William, Roland White, both Lamar and Vic Jordan on banjo (different broadcasts) and Byron Berline on fiddle.
The singer on 'Columbus Stockade Blues' sounds like Lloyd Buzzen; but i am not sure of tne exact name.
Ole Marvin Hedrick....
Made the first recordings at Bean Blossom.
His recordings are where Garcia learned "I Ain't Broke" and 'KNocking at your Door(?)".
Oops.... my bad. I'm not very familiar with AT.
Would Earl and Bill have been on the same stage (at the same time), especially the Opry, in the 60s?
I am not sure that Bill would have appeared with Earl on the Opry, but the two tunes with Dobro are clearly Scruggs tunes. They never appear in live Monroe recordings; they were not 'his' tunes. So, I suspect it is Earl playing.
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