Results 1 to 24 of 24

Thread: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

  1. #1
    Pittsburgh Bill
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    1,067
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Do we have many more Cafe members placing ads in the wrong categories as of late?
    Perhaps it is just me that takes issue with this and it doesn't really matter to anyone else or the Cafe monitors? If that is the case than so be it and I will deal with my own OCD issues.
    Personally, I find the Cafe well run, a great resource and the classifieds especially helpful when MAS strikes. It would be nice if all the members used some judgement as to where to place their ads and to donate to the Cafe upon making a sale. I realize that in the forum there can be some grey trying to determine where a thread fits best. I see no grey in determining that a guitar or a banjo no more belongs in the mandolin section than a mandolin belongs in the section reserved for violins.
    If I am just being petty I will not be upset by being told so.
    LONG LIVE THE CAFE
    Big Muddy EM8 solid body (Mike Dulak's final EM8 build)
    Kentucky KM-950
    Weber Gallatin A Mandola "D hole"
    Rogue 100A (current campfire tool & emergency canoe paddle)

  2. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Pittsburgh Bill For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Hawaii Island
    Posts
    5

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Thanks for the thread!
    I completely agree with your comments. Is it THAT difficult to figure out what section to put your sale item?? I think NOT!

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Portagee For This Useful Post:


  5. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    S.W. Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,507

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    I have been wanting to post this for some time now, thanks. If I want a guitar I will look in guitars, not mandolins. How hard is it to figure out. Some are stores that know better. I would not buy from a misplaced store ad looking for more exposure for their products.
    THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!

  6. The following members say thank you to pops1 for this post:


  7. #4
    Chu Dat Frawg Eric C.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Northeast Ohio
    Posts
    621

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Quote Originally Posted by pops1 View Post
    I have been wanting to post this for some time now, thanks. If I want a guitar I will look in guitars, not mandolins. How hard is it to figure out. Some are stores that know better. I would not buy from a misplaced store ad looking for more exposure for their products.
    I highly doubt that site sponsors are deliberately placing ads in the Mandolin section for "more exposure".

  8. #5
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    S.W. Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,507

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    I highly doubt that site sponsors are deliberately placing ads in the Mandolin section for "more exposure".
    Why then would a store, who regularly places ads, misplace them on a regular basis?
    THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!

  9. #6
    Pittsburgh Bill
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    1,067
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    I highly doubt that site sponsors are deliberately placing ads in the Mandolin section for "more exposure".
    I'm not so sure and think this is sometimes the reason and tend to agree with pops1. I do not attribute to non clarity. It would be difficult to not understand that a guitar is not a mandolin.
    If not for more exposure, what other reasons can you attribute this to? Perhaps you have other explanations that I have failed to consider and I would concede that any that you do have are sometimes possible. I, personally, just can't think of any other reasons. Also, I haven't really noticed if the misplaced ads are the work of site sponsors or individual cafe members as I have not personally scrutinized the source of the misplaced ads. Pops1 did say stores and keep in mind that not all stores that use the classifieds are site sponsors.
    Last edited by Pittsburgh Bill; Oct-19-2018 at 12:59pm.
    Big Muddy EM8 solid body (Mike Dulak's final EM8 build)
    Kentucky KM-950
    Weber Gallatin A Mandola "D hole"
    Rogue 100A (current campfire tool & emergency canoe paddle)

  10. #7

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    It's obviously for more exposure, and it bugs me too. I'd have no issue with moderators deleting guitar adds in the mandolin section.
    Silverangel A
    Arches F style kit
    1913 Gibson A-1

  11. #8
    Registered User Roger Moss's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Charlottesville Va
    Posts
    1,052

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Now that you mention it, it is dismaying to wander through a garden of mandolins, only to stumble over a banjo. I noticed it, yes, mission accomplished, but since I wasn't looking for a banjo, it does nothing to engender a positive view towards the offer.
    We are the music makers,
    And we are the dreamers of dreams

  12. The following members say thank you to Roger Moss for this post:


  13. #9
    Registered User mandolin breeze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    "My Home Is On My Back"
    Posts
    352

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Guess I can deal with a few guitars, but definitely no dang banjers


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	b.jpg 
Views:	114 
Size:	56.4 KB 
ID:	171987

  14. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mandolin breeze For This Useful Post:


  15. #10
    Registered User mandolin breeze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    "My Home Is On My Back"
    Posts
    352

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Guess I can deal with a few guitars, but definitely no dang banjers


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	b.jpg 
Views:	109 
Size:	143.7 KB 
ID:	171989

  16. #11
    Registered User Charles E.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Saint Augustine Beach FL
    Posts
    6,633

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Yeah, I have noticed that trend too but chalked it up to folks being lazy and posting in the first category. I never thought about the more exposure angle. I never click on anything other then mandolins in the mandolin category any way. It is probably not worth a mod's time to police the classifieds.
    Charley

    A bunch of stuff with four strings

  17. #12
    Registered User Charles E.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Saint Augustine Beach FL
    Posts
    6,633

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Speak of the Devil, currently the very first ad in the mandolin section of the classifieds.......

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/130508#130508

    NFI (aint that the truth!)

    Actually, the first two ads are for guitars, the second one being from a well known retailer who should know better.
    Charley

    A bunch of stuff with four strings

  18. #13
    Lurkist dhergert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Blue Zone, California
    Posts
    1,867
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Actually, I look at this the opposite way... There are a few stores and individuals who never advertise anything except mandolins in the mandolin classifieds. Those are the stores and individuals that I would purchase from.

    I take names and make lists.
    -- Don

    "Music: A minor auditory irritation occasionally characterized as pleasant."
    "It is a lot more fun to make music than it is to argue about it."


    2002 Gibson F-9
    2016 MK LFSTB
    1975 Suzuki taterbug (plus many other noisemakers)
    [About how I tune my mandolins]
    [Our recent arrival]

  19. #14

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    dhergert, you are seriously bugged by this.
    Silverangel A
    Arches F style kit
    1913 Gibson A-1

  20. #15
    Registered User Tom Sanderson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Saint Augustine, FL
    Posts
    606

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    I kinda like it. I have gotten some really good deals from eBay and the cafe on things that were placed in wrong categories , thus being missed by people that only search in the specific cataglory that they expect the item that they are looking for to be listed in. I search all cataglories.

  21. #16
    Lurkist dhergert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Blue Zone, California
    Posts
    1,867
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Quote Originally Posted by Br1ck View Post
    dhergert, you are seriously bugged by this.
    Well, not really. Copy and paste is pretty casual.
    -- Don

    "Music: A minor auditory irritation occasionally characterized as pleasant."
    "It is a lot more fun to make music than it is to argue about it."


    2002 Gibson F-9
    2016 MK LFSTB
    1975 Suzuki taterbug (plus many other noisemakers)
    [About how I tune my mandolins]
    [Our recent arrival]

  22. #17
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    S.W. Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,507

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Looks like the guitars have been removed from the mandolin section so this thread has already accomplished something.
    THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!

  23. #18
    The Amateur Mandolinist Mark Gunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    South of Cleburne, North of Hillsboro, Texas
    Posts
    5,089

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    When looking for a mandola, you have to check the mandolin category and the CBOM category, but this thread makes me wonder if they go under guitars and violins as well? Anyway, it's a messy world folks, c'est la vie.
    WWW.THEAMATEURMANDOLINIST.COM
    ----------------------------------
    "Life is short. Play hard." - AlanN

    ----------------------------------
    HEY! The Cafe has Social Groups, check 'em out. I'm in these groups:
    Newbies Social Group | The Song-A-Week Social
    The Woodshed Study Group | Blues Mando
    - Advice For Mandolin Beginners
    - YouTube Stuff

  24. #19
    I really look like that soliver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Marietta, GA
    Posts
    1,745

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    As someone who posts to the classifieds regularly, I can tell you that its an easy mistake to make. The default setting is "Mandolins" so if you aren't paying attention; regardless of what you are posting, it ends up in the mandolin section. If you have already posted it, you cannot modify that one aspect of the ad. ... Essentially you have to delete the ad and start over. ...I'm not saying this to excuse those who make the mistake, because with the ease of copy an paste, this can be done fairly quickly. However I can say that at that juncture, if its not a lack of attention or sheer apathy, its just down right laziness... Also, if it is a retailer, theres always the whole "time is money" aspect... just thinking out loud.
    aka: Spencer
    Silverangel Econo A #429
    Soliver #001 & #002: A double stack of Pancakes.

    Soliver Hand Crafted Mandolins and Mandolin Armrests
    Armrests Here -- Mandolins Here

    "You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage
    to lose sight of the shore, ...and also a boat with no holes in it.” -anonymous

  25. #20
    Moderator MikeEdgerton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Howell, NJ
    Posts
    26,875

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Gunter View Post
    When looking for a mandola, you have to check the mandolin category and the CBOM category, but this thread makes me wonder if they go under guitars and violins as well? Anyway, it's a messy world folks, c'est la vie.
    Or one could simply search using the term mandola and find everything mandola related in all sections of the classifieds.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	SearchForMandola.jpg 
Views:	89 
Size:	324.2 KB 
ID:	171999  
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
    --M. Stillion

    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
    --J. Garber

  26. The following members say thank you to MikeEdgerton for this post:


  27. #21

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    I did not notice this was happening......not that it would trick me into buying something. That only works if somebody prices something at 25-30% of the going rate.......I might fall for that! So, if sellers want more sales and faster sales I offer this little tip. Try it and see.......

    As I have stated many times on this forum and elsewhere, anybody can buy at retail -- what is the challenge in that?

  28. #22
    Registered User EvanElk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Portland, Oregon
    Posts
    428

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    The mandolin category is the default category when you post a classified ad. If you don't notice that or forget to go to the drop down category list, it's easy to accidentally post a guitar in the mandolin section.
    2003 John Sullivan F5 "Roy"
    2015 Heiden F Artist
    2019 Ruhland F5 #35

  29. The following members say thank you to EvanElk for this post:


  30. #23
    Registered User Ivan Kelsall's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Manchester - Lancashire - NW England
    Posts
    14,187

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    I haven't looked - but how many of the ''misplaced ads.'' are from regular Cafe members ?. I've seen most of 'em on here,& i've often wondered if the advertiser simply made a mistake & then didn't know how to correct it ?.

    One other thing i'd like to address - Just how much of a Gibson banjo needs to be 'replaced' before it's no longer a Gibson ?. I've seen a few on here with replacement necks / tone rings etc. still advertised as Gibsons. I have NO doubt whatsoever that the instruments are as good as the owners say,but .... ?. I also have no doubt that they describe the instruments as what they ''appear to be'' & i don't doubt the honesty of the owners for a second - but can they still be described as a Gibson banjo ?.

    A ''grey area'',
    Ivan
    Weber F-5 'Fern'.
    Lebeda F-5 "Special".
    Stelling Bellflower BANJO
    Tokai - 'Tele-alike'.
    Ellis DeLuxe "A" style.

  31. #24
    Mangler of Tunes OneChordTrick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Oxfordshire, England
    Posts
    656

    Default Re: Cafe Classifieds Misplaced Ads

    It’s Trigger’s Broom Ivan

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LAh8HryVaeY

  32. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to OneChordTrick For This Useful Post:


Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •