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    I need some exercises to learn to play artificial harmonics. Any ideas. Thanks.
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    Do you mean that technique where you finger a chord then play harmonics on that chord shape exactly an octave up the strings from the chord shape? I can do this on a guitar (badly), but have not tried it on twin-course instruments. i think they are called pinch harmonics, if it is the same thing. Finger a string then touch the harmonic an octave above that spot, right above the fret, with fingertip while plucking the string with your thumb.
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    There are three pages devoted to natural (open string) and artificial (fretted string) harmonics in Samuel Sigel’s book titled “Siegel’s Special Mandolin Studies” published in 1901. Included is an explanation of the technique and some exercises. I bought it as a reprint a few years ago, it may still be available. If you can’t find the book just send me a private message and I will forward you the three pages.

    Samuel Siegel was a well known mandolinist in the early days of sound recording, he recorded for all the companies including Berliner, Edison, Columbia and Victor. You can find many of these recordings at the UCSB cylinder recording site and well as the Library of Congress “ National Jukebox” located here LOC.gov/jukebox

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    Do you mean that technique where you finger a chord then play harmonics on that chord shape exactly an octave up the strings from the chord shape? I can do this on a guitar (badly), but have not tried it on twin-course instruments. i think they are called pinch harmonics, if it is the same thing. Finger a string then touch the harmonic an octave above that spot, right above the fret, with fingertip while plucking the string with your thumb.
    Thanks John. That's what I meant. I have to touch an octave above the fret. I was fingering the string and touching with the index at twelve's fret. It explains why I wasn't getting a sound
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkELynch View Post
    There are three pages devoted to natural (open string) and artificial (fretted string) harmonics in Samuel Sigel’s book titled “Siegel’s Special Mandolin Studies” published in 1901. Included is an explanation of the technique and some exercises. I bought it as a reprint a few years ago, it may still be available. If you can’t find the book just send me a private message and I will forward you the three pages.

    Samuel Siegel was a well known mandolinist in the early days of sound recording, he recorded for all the companies including Berliner, Edison, Columbia and Victor. You can find many of these recordings at the UCSB cylinder recording site and well as the Library of Congress “ National Jukebox” located here LOC.gov/jukebox
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    Thanks Mark. I can't find the book. I'll send you a private message for the 3 pages. Much appreciated
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    Default Re: Exercises for artificial harmonics

    Always called that chiming. What's artificial about it?

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    They’re not the harmonic of the string but of the artifice of shortening the string.
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    Here is Siegel’s explanation of the technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    i think they are called pinch harmonics
    A pinch harmonic is a different thing and is quite difficult to achieve satisfactorily on an acoustic instrument. To do it you roll the pad of your thumb over the point of your pick and dig into the string so the pick and thumb strike the string at the same time. This can be performed at any fret on the neck.

    On an electric guitar with the gain cranked up to 11 you'll get an awesome squealing harmonic best enjoyed with lots of vibrato or a big push on a whammy bar.

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    Exercises?

    Just start playing simple tunes an octave higher in (all) harmonics (pointed RH index finger style). "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star", "Star of The County Down", "Song of The Ass", "John Fenwick's Flower Amang Them All", "Over the Waterfall", "Old Joe Clark" etc.

    then scales and arpeggios all quarter note with RH down strokes.

    Play chord arpeggios mixing regular notes and harmonics.


    open G chord (shape is held down)
    ====================3========================
    ============2===========<14>=================
    ====0=========<12>==========================
    ==0====<12>==================================

    D major scale with harmoinics substituted for effect. Use the hammer-ons to keep the notes in relative balance with the chimes.
    ======================0= 2h3======
    =============2h4==============<12>
    ==0=2h4===========<12>============
    ========<12>=====================

    Playing harmonics (pointed RH index finger style whether on open or fretted strings) in 8th notes with down-up is a challenge. Down chimes are rather east, but get a clean chime on the upstroke takes some work. Chimes within crosspicking sounds great but it's a workout.

    Ten years ago, I had pages and pages and pages of instructional exercises & arrangements for various advanced techniques (harmonics, percussive stuff, two-handed tapping, fingerpicking, R&B/Rock/funk rhythm grooves etc. etc.) but abandoned it all when I realized I'd be lucky to sell even 100 copies (over time) and would never come close to breaking even on publishing costs and the expenditure of time. Absolutely no market for any of it in a grasscentric scene.

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    Ten years ago, I had pages and pages and pages of instructional exercises & arrangements for various advanced techniques (harmonics, percussive stuff, two-handed tapping, fingerpicking, R&B/Rock/funk rhythm grooves etc. etc.) but abandoned it all when I realized I'd be lucky to sell even 100 copies (over time) and would never come close to breaking even on publishing costs and the expenditure of time. Absolutely no market for any of it in a grasscentric scene.
    Hmm... some of us who have bought various publications from you over the years would love to hear of such a book, even in e-book form.

    Of course, I play no bluegrass whatsoever.
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    First of all I'm curious as to what kind of gingerpicking Niles has in mind for the mandolin. Three finger rolls?

    When I started on the guitar 60 years ago I learned about artificlal harmonics and tried them a bit, but they didn't lead anywhere, so I've never tried them on the mandolin. I can see they're quite a challenge on a double course instrument, without amplification. Perhaps someone could post a video or sound file?

    I've seen Tommy Emmanuel perform Somehere Over the Rainbow, starting with a shower of arpeggiated harmonics and I can see the many advantages of the guitar: Better sustain, stronger overtones, more strings, at closer intervals. Also, the use of a thumpick frees the index finger to produce the octaves. To me the mandolin is just a complement to the guitar, e.g., it allows certain types of melodies that would antail very awkward and frequent string changes on the guitar. So I'm not given to guitar envy.

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    That is what a dobro player does and then slides is steel up and calls it chiming. I still think that is a better word than artificial, just my opinion.

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