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    I guess that pirate tuned his mandolin once and for all, then filed away the tuner buttons so the devil wouldn't be able to re-tune it ever again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    I guess that pirate tuned his mandolin once and for all, then filed away the tuner buttons so the devil wouldn't be able to re-tune it ever again...
    Lol! Good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL277z View Post
    Regardless of whether or not geared tuners are appropriate for the pirate timeline, I want to know:

    Why are there no buttons on the tuners? See zoomed-in pic below. There are only round shafts or maybe some sort of cylindrical wood or leather covering, but it doesn't look like anything the fingers could grip onto very well. At first I thought someone had lined up all the buttons to face the same direction, but upon closer inspection it looks like they're actually cylindrical, and small diameter. Was the button-less cylinder-shaped geared tuner an actual historical design at one time? (I'm thinking, "Not.") Or is it just an example of Hollywood goofing up on details when building the movie props? Click pic a few times to enlarge:

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    Maybe we're supposed to assume that the instrument was so derelict that all the buttons had fallen off or rotted away. Still, the small cylindrical tuner handles don't seem very practical - did Mr. Pirate use pliers when tuning up?
    When I was working for a wholesale music dealer, we furnished a number of instruments to be used as props for a music scene for one of the Disney pirate movies.

    They could care less about accuracy, period, playability, all they cared about was if it looked cool and the various directors liked it.

    In the OP's pic, the prop mando has no high E course, either

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    Old Wave?

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    We've missed the obvious.

    What sort of mandolin would a pirate play?

    A Rogue, of course.

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    Dear sir, I am terribly sorry, but I fear I must inform you that what you are playing is most certainly not any part of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKOS View Post
    We've missed the obvious.

    What sort of mandolin would a pirate play?

    A Rogue, of course.
    He might have more than one, then he'd have a 'Parcel of Rogues'

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    Those tuners are fine because he used only a few strings and probably did not tune them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL277z View Post
    Regardless of whether or not geared tuners are appropriate for the pirate timeline, I want to know:

    Why are there no buttons on the tuners? See zoomed-in pic below. There are only round shafts or maybe some sort of cylindrical wood or leather covering, but it doesn't look like anything the fingers could grip onto very well. At first I thought someone had lined up all the buttons to face the same direction, but upon closer inspection it looks like they're actually cylindrical, and small diameter. Was the button-less cylinder-shaped geared tuner an actual historical design at one time? (I'm thinking, "Not.") Or is it just an example of Hollywood goofing up on details when building the movie props? Click pic a few times to enlarge:

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    Maybe we're supposed to assume that the instrument was so derelict that all the buttons had fallen off or rotted away. Still, the small cylindrical tuner handles don't seem very practical - did Mr. Pirate use pliers when tuning up?
    Surely those were the original Waverly tuners. The only ones a true seafarer would use.

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    Wow. So few serious answers to this pressing question, I can't believe my buccaneers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL277z View Post
    ...Why are there no buttons on the tuners?...is it just an example of Hollywood goofing up on details when building the movie props?
    Because it's a prop. Someone was probably sent to a music store in search of an instrument that could be loaned/rented to the production company, only to be displayed, but never played. The music dealer grabbed a discarded instrument from the junk pile, that looked vaguely "period," and provided it. Note also that the instrument has some strings, but they're not in the proper nut (or, presumably, bridge) slots, and that the actor's fingering the famous "look like you're playing it, even though you have no idea how to do that" chord.

    I have loaned instruments to amateur (and professional) theatrical companies for onstage use. I try to avoid anything that I would really hate to have lost or damaged. although I'm sure the people had good intentions and would try to compensate me if something happened. I know how props sometimes get treated backstage -- and sometimes in front of the camera, as in the notorious "smashed vintage Martin" movie incident.
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    On the OP's picture there appears to be a piece of leather woven through the strings near the nut to prevent unwanted string sounds during filming.
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    How about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKOS View Post
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    Historically speaking, the braginho or machete, a small, 4 string, Portuguese guitar comes to mind. Portuguese sailors brought these small guitars with them to pass the time aboard ships on long journeys.
    ...
    I've read that these were the original source of the ukelele, brought to the Hawaiian islands by Portuguese cowboys.
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    That seems to be the case:

    http://www.ukulelemag.com/stories/th...of-the-ukulele

    "Among the more than 25,000 Madeirans who came to Hawaii in the late 1800s, there were three woodworkers from Funchal: 40-year-old Manuel Nunes, 37-year-old Augusto Dias, and 28-year-old Jose do Espirito Santo. ....No sooner had they docked, when one of the passengers, an accomplished musician named Joao Fernandes, launched into a joyous song and dance to celebrate the ship’s safe arrival. Fernandes, a talented player who could reel off any song he’d heard only once, performed on a machête borrowed from a fellow passenger. ....Within a year, Nunes had opened his own shop just three blocks away and both Diaz and Nunes were advertising their businesses in the local newspapers. Dias described himself as a “maker of guitars, machêtes, and all stringed instruments.” Nunes announced his business as a “cabinetmaker’s shop of stringed instruments, guitars and machêtes.”"

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    I'm surprised this thread still has leg.

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    Slide mando, with his hook.
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    If a squidolin isn't handy, this would be the next best thing!

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    Them ain't tuners mates, they's parrot perches.

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    Seen this photo of this pirate named Scrum holding an interesting looking mandolin and sort of made me wonder, what mandolin is that??

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    That would be a style Arr Jim lad.

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