Anybody here done this before? Got any tips or such? Any pictures? Maybe talk about how you went about it? Thanks.
Anybody here done this before? Got any tips or such? Any pictures? Maybe talk about how you went about it? Thanks.
Luthiers have been doing it for 100s of years....
Sort of depends on what 'no power tool' means. Fell your own tree by hand, hand split, hand resawn, all the way down the line? What about the metal parts? Or plastic parts? How much is to be sourced from suppliers?
I think Roger Siminoff's book would be useful just because all the steps there could be hand done. This assumes, of course, that you are familiar and competent with all of the hand tools required. You have to make sides which are bent, top and back, cut and carved, kerfing, head and tail blocks, neck, fingerboard and the assorted joinery.
I think if you think of making parts and assembling your manufactured parts, the process is a lot simpler than 'making a mandolin.' Not without a fair degree of skill, just a lot simpler.
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I built my first F5 with no power tools. I didn't fell the trees, but I did rip the wood by hand. Frankly, it's not something I would do again, but it's a good learning experience. Every power tool has its hand-tool equivalent, so the process isn't hard to figure out if you're proficient with the tools to begin with.
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What kind of mandolin are we talking about? For simple pancake style you can read any classical guitar tutorial, just change shape of body and neck joint (dovetail or tenon). If we omit the resawing of wood the process is pretty simple and straightforward. If you have all the wood prepared you can start in the morning and have body and neck/ fingerboard ready in the evening (without binding). No big deal.
For archtop there are critical steps of cutting the body blocks, especially the scroll where you need cuts as close to square as possible to get good results. On A style it is much simpler.
I think you should google for individual processes, not a full start-to-end tutorial for mandolin.
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Over the past several years I have built 40+ instruments, mainly mandolin family but a few guitars too, and the only power tools I use are my bandsaw and drill press. I could get by without the drill press, but would not like to be without the bandsaw. I attended the excellent Stringed Instruments Making course at the old Anniesland College in Glasgow in 2004/5 and we were taught by three superb luthiers who were very much into using hand tools. There is a great feeling of satisfaction in thicknessing a top or back or sides with a hand plane and shaping necks with a variety of rasps, files and spokeshaves.
I have never made any carved-top or f-style instruments, only flat tops, so thicknessing is a lot more straightforward than graduating a carved top, but I know builders who happily use miniature finger planes and gouges to form their carved tops, both on fiddles and mandolins.
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Very few power tools leave a "ready to use" surface. Whether it's a jointer or a CNC machine, I always clean up surfaces with hand tools before jointing or assembly. So you'd just have to do more of the roughing by hand.
How do you do bindings without a router?
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Paul, I use a cutter which a machinist friend made for me which is based on a violin purfling cutter but a heavier build. It is adjusted to the required depth then drawn round the body of the instrument, first against the soundboard then against the sides. This scores a deep line which I then use to guide a chisel to cut the channel to the necessary depth. Takes a while longer than a router would take, but there is a lot more control! I have the StewMac cutter attachment for a Dremel-type drill, but rarely use it after I had an experience where the cutter slipped in the collet and made a bit of a mess!
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I know this has come up in the past - but over 5-10 years ago. Most of the builders who responded said it just wasn't worth the extra work. Using power tools to hog out most of the tops and then do the fine close work by hand saved their joints and a ton of time. If I recall Brian Dean was the most likely one to do more of the work by hand eschewing power tools. You can certainly build the entire instrument by hand, but what does that really give you? I'm unsure it increases the tonal quality of the instrument (I think that comes from building a bunch and learning how the pieces make the whole respond).
My personal feeling - and I'm not a builder - is I really love riding my bike but I'll use my car for my 25 mile commute each way.
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I rebuilt a kitchen one time using just hand tools, no power tools. It was tough but it did teach me a few things. It taught me that no matter how proficient I was with a hand saw I could never cut anything as straight as I could with my table saw and drilling with a brace and bit can be very tiring. If someone doesn't own power tools then by all means have at it. I'm sure there will some satisfaction in doing that way. Most luthiers I know mix hand work with power tools. In this day and age of CNC machines and such almost anything can be automated if one has the resources. I'm always pleasantly surprised when I take the Martin tour and see those folks sitting there with a 6 inch high stack of 2 X 2 squares of sand paper.
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I don't think Stradivarius used any power tools !
I guess the question I would ask the OP is what his need/intention is in only using hand tools. Do you have a political or artistic statement to make by building this way? Do you have limited resources and can't afford a full shop of power tools?
You can also get some of the grunt work done either by buying a kit or else by buying partly finished parts.
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I use a bandsaw and a drill press. I prefer to drill by hand with an old Millers Falls. I also have a couple of really small push drills. I use an electric drill for things outside of the shop, but rarely in. I do have a 4" belt sander now that I think of it for quick things. Old tools are far superior to use than new. My block plane is from the 20's, most likely so is the Millers Falls drill. When I built my shop my uncle, who is a carpenter, asked if I had a air hammer. I said I breathe air and I hammer. He couldn'g believe I would use a hammer and do it all by hand, but it was much more pleasing to hear the nail going in than a compressor running all day.
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I had a fairly productive five year spell where I sold all of my power tools and had an analog shop, except for a drill press, in an old historic building downtown. About once every four months I would visit a friend's shop and buy an hour of time to re-saw boards and run a few through the thickness sander and jointer. I also built several instruments when I lived off the grid out in the desert with a funky hippee chick, felling wood by hand, collecting redwood logs off the beach, and heating hide glue on the woodstove. As cool as that was back in the day, thoughts of the woman in the teepee come up a lot more than thoughts of getting rid of my big bandsaw....
I would think most of the hand tools available today were made by power tools. Just sayin...
When I was younger that's what I thought a "handmade guitar" was!
FWIW, I am old enough to remember when Dad brought home his first electric drill! Boy, he thought his worries were over, now he could drill this and drill that...........before that we used the old brace and bit -- which I'm sure is still in a cabinet somewhere.
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Here are my reasons:
Have absolutely no power tools.
Can't afford them either.
Don't have space for them either.
A different satisfaction to build something completely by hand, and using no power tools. A cool different connection between you and the instrument. A whole different ambiance.
Improve dexterity and patience.
I've seen it being done with guitars, and violins, but not arch-top mandolins. I suppose it would be sort of like a mix between the two.
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