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    No mandolin content but someday you might need to know some of this

    I snagged a nice Recording King ROS-616 guitar off the Guitar Center used equipment site back in late November. It didn't have a case so I went looking and finally decided on a SilverCreek 000 sized case from MusiciansFriend. I had a 25% off coupon and that got it delivered to my door for about $86.00.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acces...0case&index=11

    Doing fine, guitar fits all is good except the tab they used on the storage pocket isn't leather it's vinyl. Vinyl is the enemy of lacquer and this guitar is finished in nitrocellulose lacquer. It has one little gold colored rivet holding it on. I assume, wrongly, that I can just uncurl the rivet inside the pocket. I can't without destroying it so I go to the next best thing and I drill it out from the top.

    Getting the leather replacement tab is fairly easy. I didn't have any scrap so I go to the neighborhood crafts store (Michael's) and buy these little leather tags they sell for a few dollars for a pack of 3. Cut one of them in half, trim the corners and punch a 1/4 inch hole in the end. I can't reuse the gold colored rivet so I go in search of a Chicago screw (also called binder posts) to replace it. The local home stores and hardware stores only have it in aluminum so I had to order them off Amazon. They were cheap. The final result is a leather tab in my cheap case that won't destroy the finish on the neck of the guitar. I'm actually working on version 2 of the leather tab with rounded corners now that I made the tool to cut them round.
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    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
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    Handy fellow, that Mike.

    Can you come by the house and replace my upstairs toilet?

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    I hate working on toilets. It's not that they're yucky, you can deal with that but that entire wax ring thing confounds me.
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    Ah! Binder screw - that's the thing. I'm gonna fix a bunch of things now.

    As for the toilet, it is a great invention that changed civilization. Just squish the wax ring evenly when lowering the throne.
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    And squishing it evenly is always the problem
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
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    Back in the day, we always found the throne-lowering, even-squishing thing to be a 2-person job. More lately, though, and too old for the aggravation, we've just hired a handyman to do it...

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    I replaced the 'tab' on a once owned guitar case with a piece of red cotton ribbon,double over & stapled onto the inner face of the storage pocket. So thin,it wasn't even there,but being red,you could see it easily,
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    Wax ring? I thought that was a small cushion but it always fell through the hole. Learn something new every day.

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    My fave piece o' toilet hardware is the aptly-named Johnny-Bolt, that extra long, bronze-colored upside-down threaded bolt to secure bowl to floor...yessir...

    and what this has to do with the OP, well: sometimes, I play like #$#$

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    Well, there's a band name fer ya- The Wax Ring Boys, keeping that #$#$ where it belongs....

    (Sorry)

    Thanks for posting the info about binder posts-that's a handy thing to know
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    I kind of like the Johnny-Bolts as a band name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    I hate working on toilets. It's not that they're yucky, you can deal with that but that entire wax ring thing confounds me.
    Mike, you made me laugh out loud. I have watched as even the most experienced plumbers struggle with these things.

    Watch the bridge on the Recording Kings. They have a tendency to lift.
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    Watch the bridge on the Recording Kings. They have a tendency to lift.
    As far as the wax rings go, all it takes is one time not getting it right to make you fear them.

    The guitar is a 2005. The finish isn't superb, I took some fine sand paper and fixed the headstock. Had to dress the fret ends. The bridge looks fine thus far. I replaced the plastic end pin with an ebony pin. It's got its share of bumps and bruises but it plays ok and sounds a whole lot better than what I paid for it. I have never been a fan of mahogany tops but this one sounds pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    As far as the wax rings go, all it takes is one time not getting it right to make you fear them.
    Fun fact: I was searching a year ago for a way to stop the head joint of my "Irish" flute from rotating too freely on the tuning slide. Tried various things, then saw someone mentioning toilet ring wax on Chiff and Fipple forum. So I bought a ring of the wax, and smeared just a very thin film on the tuning slide. It works great. A little stiff in the winter months when the house is colder, but loosens up after a few minutes playing, and that's better than having it way too loose in the summer months.

    Now I have the other 99.8% of a wax ring waiting for the next toilet replacement. Which in this house, won't be a long wait.

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    Just use the new one on your flute, OK?

    I've never seen anyone use one for another purpose. Now I'm thinking. This might be a great waterproofing product. I used to use Hubbard's boot grease on the bottom of my leather bicycle saddle to keep the water from the rear wheel from damaging the leather. Wax from the wax ring might have been a better idea.
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    That stuff is so sticky, if you get it on your hands it won't wash off with the best soap. Nothing penetrates it. It would protect your bike saddle, but I would be careful sitting down on most anything else after riding.
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    You just use it on the underside of the saddle to keep the water off that comes up from the wheel. Your body should be protecting the top side
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