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    One of my students wants their own mandocello to practice at home, but doesn't want to spend a lot of money. We've looked at the cellos listed on Ebay together, but they are those horrible Vietnamese instruments with laminated-on shellwork that everybody knows about. We've also considered the Hora octave mandolin/bouzouki...I own one, but she doesn't like the feel of it: "It's too cheap". My advice to her was to start saving $100 a month for a couple years so she could afford something in the $2k price range. Any other advice? She reads this forum and will see your answers.

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    Default Re: student wants a mandocello...under $1000...suggestions?

    If its just for home practice her best bet might be get a nice old tenor guitar, tune it C-G-D-A. Won't have double courses but it will work. Morgan Monroe talked about a guitar body AE 'cello that would retail under $1 k. Don't know what happened to that.

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    If the infamous container of GoldTone mandocellos ever gets through CITES and is unleashed upon the world, that'll be the day.

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    How about APC?

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    Suzuki MC836 Mandocello at Thomann. I'm sure a North american dealer would be able to order it for you.

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    Be careful about the tuning -some of those at Thomann, including the Suzuki above are GDAE rather than CGDA.

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    You asked this same question last June. Safe to say, it has not been resolved. Sounds like your student’s expectations are way too high. Don’t want to spend a lot of money, but don’t want anything cheap? I guess your student doesn’t see any conflict there. If all instruments were low priced with excellent quality, why would anyone buy expensive instruments?

    When this question was asked before, I posted a response in which I wondered out loud if, with the nut and bridge adjusted and appropriate gauge strings installed, could something like a Trinity College bouzouki be converted to mandocello?
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    Quote Originally Posted by derbex View Post
    Be careful about the tuning -some of those at Thomann, including the Suzuki above are GDAE rather than CGDA.

    https://www.thomann.de/gb/mandoloncelli.html
    I have no idea why Thomann say GDAE for the Suzuki - I have one (the largely identical predecessor model MC-815) and it's intended for CGDA. I have Thomastik mandocello strings on mine, which work fine. The C course isn't particularly strong because of the fairly short scale, but it functions just fine. Good option at that price.

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    If your student doesn't mind weird design and perhaps a bit rougher finish work -- but decent construction and sound -- Wishnevsky mandocellos are about $600, according to his website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themandocello View Post
    One of my students wants their own mandocello to practice at home, but doesn't want to spend a lot of money.
    I'm thinking of selling my Harmony Archtone mandocello conversion.
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    For just a little more, $1200 or so, you can get a used Eastmandocello if you keep your eyes out. Other than that, a conversion is probably your best option.
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    Here be a Framus conversion at an attractive price. https://wichita.craigslist.org/msg/d...349590034.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandobart View Post
    Morgan Monroe talked about a guitar body AE 'cello that would retail under $1 k. Don't know what happened to that.
    According to Rob @ Morgan Monroe as of 11/30/17
    It doesn't look good for the mandocello. It will be a long time if it happens at all.
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    [QUOTE=Martin Jonas I have Thomastik mandocello strings on mine, which work fine. The C course isn't particularly strong because of the fairly short scale, but it functions just fine. Good option at that price.

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    Martin, where oh where do you source Thomastik mandocello strings? I live in UK (Scotland) and haven’t found anywhere online that even lists them (I assume it is the 1804 set I need, but not even TI’s own catalogue shows them). I have a Paul Hathway Mandocello and would love to try TI strings on it. Also, I do wonder whether the TI set would be suitable as my MC has a very long scale length of 660cm. Any pointers gratefully received. Nick
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    Can i second the APC cello. But consider the APC mondole. I have the 10 string model tuned cgdae. Amazing instrument for €400 odd. Kieran Moloney Music Shop is your man

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumblefour View Post
    Martin, where oh where do you source Thomastik mandocello strings? I live in UK (Scotland) and haven’t found anywhere online that even lists them (I assume it is the 1804 set I need, but not even TI’s own catalogue shows them). I have a Paul Hathway Mandocello and would love to try TI strings on it. Also, I do wonder whether the TI set would be suitable as my MC has a very long scale length of 660cm. Any pointers gratefully received. Nick
    Available from just strings dot com. Kinda pricey at US$78.86 not to mention shipping. Maybe email or telephone TI & see if they can help (if nothing else, shipping should be cheaper over on that side of the Ocean).

    http://www.juststrings.com/thomastik...andocello.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumblefour View Post
    Martin, where oh where do you source Thomastik mandocello strings? I live in UK (Scotland) and haven’t found anywhere online that even lists them (I assume it is the 1804 set I need, but not even TI’s own catalogue shows them). I have a Paul Hathway Mandocello and would love to try TI strings on it. Also, I do wonder whether the TI set would be suitable as my MC has a very long scale length of 660cm. Any pointers gratefully received. Nick
    Sorry, can't help you much -- the TI strings came with the mandocello when I bought it and as they keep for ages (and it's not my primary instrument) I haven't seen much need to change them yet. If you want to order them, try trekel.de:

    https://www.trekel.de/-Thomastik-180...lo-746859.html

    However, they are very expensive (EUR60.90), and Trekel gives a 42 day delivery estimate. I am sure that when I looked previously, they were more widely available, so it's possible that they have been discontinued.

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    Give Kieran a shout here. He may have those strings too
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    E772=$900+shipping out of her price range unfortunately

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    https://m.ebay.com/itm/Gold-Tone-Sin...&ul_noapp=true
    Says there are 3 available here. $899.00 and free shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Riley View Post
    https://m.ebay.com/itm/Gold-Tone-Sin...&ul_noapp=true
    Says there are 3 available here. $899.00 and free shipping.
    I don't know this eBay seller but for even less than they are charging, Elderly is expecting Goldtone Mandocelli soon and they would check for proper setup. I would buy from them or other known retailers. Just my 2 cents. NFI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I don't know this eBay seller but for even less than they are charging, Elderly is expecting Goldtone Mandocelli soon and they would check for proper setup. I would buy from them or other known retailers. Just my 2 cents. NFI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I don't know this eBay seller but for even less than they are charging, Elderly is expecting Goldtone Mandocelli soon and they would check for proper setup. I would buy from them or other known retailers. Just my 2 cents. NFI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themandocello View Post
    E772=$900+shipping out of her price range unfortunately

    Not sure which post this refers to but the one at garryireland's link is €446 export + purpose made case 81 + 39 shipping = €556
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    I'll give a third vote for APC. Just got a octave from Moloney and it's a pretty solid budget instrument
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