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    Lyon and Healy Lakeside Mandolinetto (guitar shaped mandolin) c.1910 Rare! http://r.ebay.com/xGFRek Neck has been reset, no cracks or splits.
    Could this be Brazilian Rosewood back & sides ???
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    Default Re: Lyon and Healy Lakeside Mandolinetto (guitar shaped mandolin)

    Quote Originally Posted by your_diamond View Post
    Could this be Brazilian Rosewood back & sides ???
    I would say that it is likely BRW. I don't think American makers were importing Indian RW back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I don't think American makers were importing Indian RW back then.
    Well, my biggest worry was not so much that this was Indian rosewood, but
    that it could be a faux Brazilian Rosewood Paint Job.
    This being a Lakeside, which was the budget brand for Lyon and Healy.
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    Default Re: Lyon and Healy Lakeside Mandolinetto (guitar shaped mandolin)

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    ... being a Lakeside, which was the budget brand for Lyon and Healy.
    Yeah but... "Budget brand", back before there was such high-tech ability to produce faux finishes, could mean that someone went dumpster-diving to recover the Brazilian that Martin and others considered too inconsistent for their intended level of quality. That variation in the sides' coloring probably would have been unacceptable in a higher-level instrument.

    Several years back, Fretboard Journal did a major article on Tony Rice's '30s (re-necked) Martin D-28. Whether seen up close or from afar, the body is consistently straight- & tight-grained, what most folks might even call B-O-R-I-N-G (other than the not-quite-sanded-out sawmill marks!). It's nothing at all like what current, meaning since the '60s or so, Brazilian looks like.
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    I had an 1890 guitar with a faux finish of painted Brazilian on a mahogany sides and back that fooled everyone until you looked inside. 1910 would have had a couple decades of working with these finishes to be painted. They are quite amazing actually. Mine had the lighter line like this and I wondered about it not being rosewood, I would ask for a shot of the inside thru the sound hole.
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    Well, my biggest worry was not so much that this was Indian rosewood, but
    that it could be a faux Brazilian Rosewood Paint Job.
    This being a Lakeside, which was the budget brand for Lyon and Healy.
    You may be correct. In my 1912 L&H catalog they have two American Conservatory branded guitar-mandolins, one that has faux-rosewood and one with genuine. The one pictured on this catalog page has rope binding on front and back but the Lakeside sounds more like the model 81.

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