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    I'm taking about the "plate" you place on the strings between the bridge and the string attachement points to stop the strings from vibrating sympathetically. I have several bowl-backs to which I wish to add such an item but I can't find them anywhere on the net, most probably because I don't use the correct term when searching.
    Anyone know?

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    Usually that type of thing is much simplified for "A" & "F" style mandolins, & they're usually termed 'harmonic suppressors'. For the mandolin styles i mentioned,a simple strip of leather can be woven through the strings close to the tail piece,or,rubber grommets can be used (see pic.).

    Maybe a search for a website specialising in bowl back mandolins might be successful ?,
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    Default Re: What is the correct name for this part?

    I've seen 'wood nymph', which may be a brand name.

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    Sleeve guards. (From back when people held the instrument high enough)

    You can get reproduction ones
    http://www.mandolinluthier.com/Sleeve%20Guard.htm

    Should keep the old cufflinks from snagging
    Eoin



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    Yup, they're not harmonic suppressors as per some modern mandolins, but designed to protect your arm from the wound strings when playing bowl back standing up, and holding the instrument between arm and body at that point. With modern strings (as opposed to old, hand wound ones with lots of jaggies) they're much less needed, but can look nice none the less.

    You can make your own pretty easily with a pair of scissors and some sheet TS, for example from here: http://www.rothkoandfrost.com/tortoi...s-thicknesses/

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    Thank You very much!
    "Sleeve guard" it must be.
    So, I thought it was for anti-harmonics but that was obviously wrong. Nevertheless, I want them anyway. Sure I could do them on my own but not in the decorative fashion as the "real" ones. Hope I can find them at reasonable price. Hopefully China as buying from America often gets very expensive. Yes, I live in Sweden.

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    Those ones from the Dave Hynds page link I gave you should be good at €15 as you won’t have anything but postage to add.
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    Thank You for the links, Beanzy and Tavy. The problem with ordering items from America to Sweden is that the Swedish shipping companies are very happy to charge you up to $20 for the service of charging you 7% customs fee and 25% sales tax. The customs and tax are always the same, naturally, but the fee may vary a lot depending on wich shipper that handles your shipment.
    RothkoandFrost seems to be in England so maybe I'll go for making my own "sleeve guards" after all.
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    Dave Hynds Mandolin Luthier: S W France
    "Hello, welcome to my site. I now live/work, repairing mandolins and related instruments, in S. W. France."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfe View Post
    Thank You for the links, Beanzy and Tavy. The problem with ordering items from America to Sweden is that the Swedish shipping companies are very happy to charge you up to $20 for the service of charging you 7% customs fee and 25% sales tax. The customs and tax are always the same, naturally, but the fee may vary a lot depending on wich shipper that handles your shipment.
    RothkoandFrost seems to be in England so maybe I'll go for making my own "sleeve guards" after all.
    He’s in France, that’s why you’ll only have the postage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanzy View Post
    He’s in France, that’s why you’ll only have the postage.

    I missed that!

    And I just noted that I am no stranger to his homepage. I've visited his "Mandolin hospital" several times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Dave Hynds Mandolin Luthier: S W France
    "Hello, welcome to my site. I now live/work, repairing mandolins and related instruments, in S. W. France."
    Right, and the link to TS sheet I gave is in the UK: again no issues with tax or import duties, we're still in the EU for now!

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    From AlanN - " I've seen 'wood nymph', which may be a brand name. ". Hi Alan,the 'Woodnymph' was the harmonic suppressor gizmo that Weber produced as per this pic. I suppose they do the job if you need none,i found that i didn't. Anyway, the darned thing wouldn't stay put for more than a minute or 2,that's when i bought the grommets - which i found i didn't need,
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