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    As seen on previous page. Deja vu all over again!

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    The sum of complexity of tool and usage seems to be a constant. The skills of neolithic people must have been better than anything we can do today, and the pick is not too far away from a chip of flintstone.
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    Well, it is thick and pointy!

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    Someone needs to design a pick much like a thumb pick that will slip over your index finger and then all you would have to do is just place your thumb on top of it to insure that it wouldn`t fall off or slip....Come on you inventers out there, show your stuff...

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    In Tony Sullivan's Irish Tenor Banjo book he describes a method of playing using what he calls a "thimble", essentially a small piece of plastic piping that slides over the first finger and is held their by the thumb. The piping is cut at an angle and the sharper edge is used to pluck the strings. I think he said Johnny Keenan used this method, and I think he may have used it himself (judging by recordings). It seems to give a little bit of a different tone, as you'd imagine. I'd also imagine it'd make strumming the strings very clunky, but of course Irish tenor banjo players typically don't do a lot of strumming.

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    Don't be so obsidian... er, I mean obstinate!

    That serrated edge just might just help out one's tremolo (or not)...

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    In Tony Sullivan's Irish Tenor Banjo book he describes a method of playing using what he calls a "thimble", essentially a small piece of plastic piping that slides over the first finger and is held their by the thumb. The piping is cut at an angle and the sharper edge is used to pluck the strings. I think he said Johnny Keenan used this method....seems to give a little bit of a different tone, as you'd imagine. I'd also imagine it'd make strumming the strings very clunky, but of course Irish tenor banjo players typically don't do a lot of strumming.
    Right, it's a melodic style and that book does show a "thimble" type pick that fits over the index fingertip. The thumb may just stabilize it, as if it were a round (as in around the finger) pick with a sharp edge.

    http://thimbles.host-ed.me/Non_sewing.html

    There's some medical (ugh) and unusual stuff about thimbles, but they mention thimble-type picks:

    "Banjo players sometimes used to wear a thimble on the first finger for ‘stroke’ or ‘thimble’ playing. The thimble (Fig 21) was usually made of German silver and should not be thick or heavy. According to S.S. Stewarts Banjo and Guitar Journal in 1887, ‘In playing marches, etc., the entire execution is nearly always done with the thimble; that is, nearly all the notes are struck with the thimble, and the thumb is little used…"





    Although the last is listed as a sewing thimble, it looks a lot like Sully's.

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    the Bickfords method.. index finger curled uptight, pick laid on top, then thumb holds it down .


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    The topic seems to have turned its attention towards pick slippage and pick loss, which is natural, because an impressive percentage of the force holding the pick is just for preventing that. My longterm solution is still rosin powder (rubbed violently between thumb and index, your pick will stick to either and everything becomes much more relaxed).
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    Just getting around to reading this thread - have always been the thumb and index finger type of pick holder. However, I have seen and played with folks who use the pencil grip. Works for them. My grip may have changed around the time I first watched one of the Norman Blake videos where he describes his method of holding the pick and playing. That caused me to experiment a bit. However, at this point no longer remember whether I changed or not.

    My main bad habit these days is gripping the pick too tight. Whenever I try to relax, the pick moves around too much and I can't pull a tone I want from the instrument.
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    DavidKOS: I recently saw a picture of a clawhammer pick that looks exactly like your first picture, but i can't find the reference (probably on banjo hangout

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    Maybe somewhere on this thread are pictures of picks that are held by the entire length of the palm, if not: http://www.pykmax.com/ (this vendor seems to have faded out and only a few "Youth" sizes are available to buy

    and pick # 10: http://www.guitarworld.com/acoustic-...e-be-different

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