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    My uncle is in Ecuador with his family and visited a shop in a small town where the owner makes and repairs guitars and stringed instruments by hand. They came across this instrument and thought it was a mandolin. Detail around the sound hole is tiny hand cut colored wood chips inlaid onto the wood.

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    Any clue on what it is?

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    Wow, 15 strings! Looking at the Atlas of Plucked Instruments, it looks like a bandolin (not to be confused with bandolim): http://www.atlasofpluckedinstruments...th_america.htm

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    It could be a Churango (sp?)
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    Default Re: Mystery instrument found in Ecuador...

    My guess . . . Bandola?
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    Charangos are usually ten strings, with guitar-esque (or ukulele-esque) bodies.

    I think Seter has hit it: 15 strings in five triple courses, floating bridge, tailpiece. I vote bandolin.

    Plus, it's the only Ecuadorean instrument listed in the Atlas of Plucked Instruments.
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    Man, that's going to take some tuning!

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    Cool link David!
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    ... It is an Equadorian Bandolin

    I have one given me completely broken
    I had repared it, put a new extended fingerboard, and modified with a mapple floating bridge (better for compensation of the strings gauges) and strung it in triple fifth octavied courses (from low => high) : cCc-gGg-dDd-aAa-eEe

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    In other south american countries its name is also Andino Bandolin and was largely played

    The 2 specialists are pictured below

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    Here an exemple of music with this instrument

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    C’est chouette!!
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    Wow~ and I thought mandolin string changes took time! But neat instruments! Thanks - learning all the time!

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    Ohhh My. Look at THAT Florida.

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    Sorry but I had forgot to give you its scale whitch is 43cm from bridge to upper nut

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    Look carefully at the label, I understand Lloyd Loar spent some time down in Ecuador
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    i think it's a bandurria, strung in five courses with triples, fifteen strings at least, some variants have four string in some courses. it is often the rhythm instrument of the native muisc

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollaimh View Post
    i think it's a bandurria, strung in five courses with triples, fifteen strings at least, some variants have four string in some courses. it is often the rhythm instrument of the native muisc
    ... If you read really the precedent posts (do it !), you will understand that it is not possible... spanish Bandurria has a very short neck (upper mandolin like tuned in mind of "up than +octave guitar" instrument) and 12 strings in 6 courses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandurria

    ... it is not also a spanish Laud 12 strings in 6 courses with a longer neck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%BAd

    These 2 instruments are really played only in Spain during specific classical traditional folk festivals http://orlaser.blogspot.fr/ and https://hiveminer.com/Tags/bandurria%2Claud ...



    ... and also played in diaspora countries such as Cuba and the Philippine...
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    ... Here is a last demonstration of Bandurria & Laud classic Duo


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    Quote Originally Posted by Irénée View Post
    ... If you read really the precedent posts (do it !), you will understand that it is not possible... spanish Bandurria has a very short neck (upper mandolin like tuned in mind of "up than +octave guitar" instrument) and 12 strings in 6 courses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandurria

    ... it is not also a spanish Laud 12 strings in 6 courses with a longer neck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%BAd

    These 2 instruments are really played only in Spain during specific classical traditional folk festivals http://orlaser.blogspot.fr/ and https://hiveminer.com/Tags/bandurria%2Claud ...



    ... and also played in diaspora countries such as Cuba and the Philippine...
    not a spanish bandura, a south ameican one--very different instruments from a similar family

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    look at the stlas of stinged instruments, an almost exact version is there as the south american bandurria.

    the sorter scale is the bandolin but this looks longer scale.

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    I have a bandurria that I bought while in the Peace Corps in rural Philippines. 12 strings and the back and sides are carved out of one piece of wood. It needs work to make it playable.

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    The ecuadorian bandolin (5 courses) is related to the andean bandola (6 courses) from Colombia. The later is a bandurria with steroids tuned like the pilipino banduria one tone lower than standard. The Ecuadorian bandolin ussually has triple courses arranged like andean colombian tiples... and traditionally are used to play pasillo folk music

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    Default Re: Mystery instrument found in Ecuador...

    Thanks to David (post #7) and Irenee (post #9) this has been a wonderfully rich educational post on the bandolin. The Andean music from the video in post #9, featuring pipes, guitar, bandolin, drums, vocals ... is a moving performance. Thanks so much for sharing.
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