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    This should be interesting to watch.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-The-Gi...kAAOSwCU1YzbQO
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    Hmmm, wonder how high this will go? Too bad someone didn't fix it years ago.
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    Just needs an accompanying story saying it was smashed by Ira Louvin backstage at the Grand Ole Opry or something.
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    Strange seller's notes:
    100 YEAR PLUS OLD piece here. this listing is for the case ONLY. the headstock ONLYTHE CASE shown is listed in a separate sale, and was the case this mandolin came in. the case is only shown for reference. sold AS IS this listing os for the headstock ONLY
    Actually I did find the case in funky condition but figured the seller parted out the rest of this mandolin but I don't see any more parts.
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    Strange seller's notes....
    Nope.

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    Yup, a listing for each. The case is up to $1.00
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    I got this headstock as part of a project years ago and didn't have a need for it. I sold it and I suspect the buyer could have reused the inlay if carefully removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    This should be interesting to watch.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-The-Gi...kAAOSwCU1YzbQO
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    Umm, bad scroll repair. I'm out.
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    Would make a really cool paperweight to go with my old roll top desk....................but at $153.50 with 5 days to go, it will go for more than the desk is worth!

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    Probably need to replace the truss rod.

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    What are the tuners worth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F-2 Dave View Post
    What are the tuners worth?
    You know, I'm really not sure. They certainly do have value but it isn't the same as the arrowhead ended tuners. If this was an F5 headstock the value would be 7 or 8 times what it is now. If they were Handel tuners the price would be up there as well. I don't recall seeing a plain set of F2/4 tuners tuners for sale. I'm sure they have been. That's pretty much what the bidding has to be for.
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    I don't know it might make a nice lamp.
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    I wonder how much would it cost to have the rest built up by someone like Gilchrist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoGo View Post
    I wonder how much would it cost to have the rest built up by someone like Gilchrist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    You know, I'm really not sure. They certainly do have value but it isn't the same as the arrowhead ended tuners. If this was an F5 headstock the value would be 7 or 8 times what it is now. If they were Handel tuners the price would be up there as well. I don't recall seeing a plain set of F2/4 tuners tuners for sale. I'm sure they have been. That's pretty much what the bidding has to be for.
    Mike, the classifieds have a set for sale http://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/102992#102992

    and as Charles notes...these are more rare than the Handels....mid 1918 to somewhere mid 1923....

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    I can't remember seeing a lot of them for sale so they must be rare. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim simpson View Post
    I got this headstock as part of a project years ago and didn't have a need for it. I sold it and I suspect the buyer could have reused the inlay if carefully removed.
    I've got plenty of "The Gibson" inlays if anyone really needs one...
    (Poorly cut to match the originals...)

    ...but, what this thread really points out is that mahogany is a lousy wood for a Gibson-style neck--guitar or mandolin...
    All those 'Burst breaks ($125K--gone!) and these examples really show that Leo and the Loars had it right--maple is the way to go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoGo View Post
    I wonder how much would it cost to have the rest built up by someone like Gilchrist.
    Probably about $35K.......................

    Question is, would it be a restored Gibson or a Gil with a Gibson peghead grafted on?

    It would, however, take the concept of distressed/relic-ed instruments to another level -- I don't think I've seen a relic with an "intentional" headstock repair. That would lend credibility from the point of view of "who in their right mind would do such a thing?!!" -- therefore, it must be real.

    To take it one step further, kind of like "how much of a torn $20 bill is still legal tender?" Certainly, you can't spend both halves and get $40 worth of goods for the same $20! But, this is slightly different. Let's say you had the entire mandolin. You break it, and restore both halves and suddenly you have two vintage mandolins, right? The only question is the cost of doing so and how well it turns out. And, of course, integrity which may or may not figure into the situation.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Mando View Post
    To take it one step further, kind of like "how much of a torn $20 bill is still legal tender?" Certainly, you can't spend both halves and get $40 worth of goods for the same $20! But, this is slightly different. Let's say you had the entire mandolin. You break it, and restore both halves and suddenly you have two vintage mandolins, right? The only question is the cost of doing so and how well it turns out. And, of course, integrity which may or may not figure into the situation.....
    I believe these things happened in top violin market when someone parted original Stradivari violin into two and mede the missing parts... I think someonbe later discovered them both and put the violin back together. There are still few "composite" Strads that only have some parts original and some parts of other old makers.
    Reminds me of the great-grandfathers favorite axe...
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    I thought that this represented an extreme case of "parting out" an old mandolin. I'd hate to see the pick guard or tailpiece offering!

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    I watched this for awhile. I'd absolutely love a broken Gibson headstock. Even just the faceplate with inlay. This was went too high for my pocketbook right now.
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    Someone must have made him an offer for that and the case. They were both withdrawn.
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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-Gibson-...8AAOSwol5Y1Zdg

    New listing: buy-it-now for $999.99 case, headstock and tuners
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