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    Quote Originally Posted by fscotte View Post
    Let the comments "commence",
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    Quote Originally Posted by fidlplr1979 View Post
    Let the comments "commence",
    I hear ya man! My take is they are the original that all makers try to emulate. When Loars were made they already were made with old growth wood. And Loyd didn't make em!!! Kinda an overseer, Today there is an abundance of great makers that have fabulous mandolins at great prices compared to "the original 5". The owners of real Loars are ageing and for the most part youngsters won't pay the prices that dealers/players/collectors would like to get so thats why there are so many for sale now and a lot cheaper than a few years ago when Loars were fetching 200-250G. Some have been sitting for sale for years 5 years for a few that I know of. Now ya can pick em up at the "Right" places/individuals 80-135G for some. so time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidlplr1979 View Post
    Let the comments "commence",
    Why would u quote me? Now I gotta reply...

    Tone for your dollar, Loars are horrible. Absolute crud. You'd have to measure the amount of tone per tenth of a cent.

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    Better tell that to Grisman, Reichsman, and Thile!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAK View Post
    Better tell that to Grisman, Reichsman, and Thile!
    Well the first two of these bougt their Loars for few 1000s of $ back in time and the third guy got lots of disposable funds for free. :-)
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    The 8k $ was a huge sum for John Reischman back then. And didn't the price for Chris Thile's first Loar (#75316) hurt him quite a bit? Maybe not that much when he purchased #75318 after the MacArthur-$$.
    Other than that, your bashing of the too-expensive Loars may eventually lead to Loar prices go down - good for the ones who are in the market for one.

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    I love the history and construction of musical instruments old and new, valuable and cheap. I especially love learning about, and playing those instruments that have become iconic 'sounds' for various genres. (The Martin dread and the Gibson F-5 have come to play that role in bluegrass)

    But threads like this one, make me a little crazy. I think it is really valuable to listen to what great musicians say about their own instruments. Folks like Grisman, Reischman, and Thile truly love the instrument and have spoken about that love many times in many places. And their opinions are diverse, complex and interesting. Look at the obvious differences in those three. Dawg has one of the great collections of mandolins, covering every base. John Reischman and Thile have focused on the early F-5s in what seems like a search for the 'one' that best works for each. Throw in Statman, who has owned MANY instruments over the years, old, new, expensive, cheap including at least one early F-5. He's a serial monogamist, who is always hungry for one perfect instrument, and I'm quite certain he will never be wholly satisfied. When pros talk about instruments and gear, I listen hard.

    I just don't know what to make of online opinions from folks I don't know, and haven't heard play. Often, I don't even know what genres of music they admire, even when I've 'known' them online for years!
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    Generally, all those folks that try and discuss "value" of an instruments voice in dollar terms, are focused on their internal need for money, or concern for the lack of it. Their sense of value is dependent upon two things, their lack of money, and/or their inability to appreciate the sound of high end mandolins. Either of those two things will lead one down the path of criticizing others for "valuing" an instrument where they cannot.

    Where it becomes moronic, is when folks start expressing such opinions in the vein of not understanding the thoughts of others, or expressing their opinions as "sensible", relative to others. This is not to discourage contributors here, expressing their opinions. After all that is one of the things forums are for.... especially, since it is a hoot to read the profound exclaimations of those who cannot grasp what others can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFDilmando View Post
    Generally, all those folks that try and discuss "value" of an instruments voice in dollar terms, are focused on their internal need for money, or concern for the lack of it. Their sense of value is dependent upon two things, their lack of money, and/or their inability to appreciate the sound of high end mandolins. Either of those two things will lead one down the path of criticizing others for "valuing" an instrument where they cannot.

    Where it becomes moronic, is when folks start expressing such opinions in the vein of not understanding the thoughts of others, or expressing their opinions as "sensible", relative to others. This is not to discourage contributors here, expressing their opinions. After all that is one of the things forums are for.... especially, since it is a hoot to read the profound exclaimations of those who cannot grasp what others can.
    Great players make most "good mandolins" sound great. I've played two Loars, one good one not good and a 1927 F5 which was fabulous. However I've heard many modern mandolins played by today's musicians and they can sound fabulous.

    It's only going to sound as good as the player. The Gibson Loars are always going to be the Stradivarius mandolins and no doubt they will keep a very high value without actually being a great deal better than some of the high mandolins of today.

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    i figured I'd chime in regarding my Loar experience. I played one at Greg Boyd's in 2008 or there about...it was one number off from BillM's... was not setup for easy playing, cost as much as my house, and left me wondering what the hubbub was all about. It sold again a few years later for almost $100k more than when I saw it for sale. Greg said I should mortgage my house for the investment, was probably sound(pun?) advice.
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