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    First ever photo of Arnold Shultz....just published in the new book ..
    "Mose Rager - Kentucky s Incomparable Guitar Master" in Hardcover April 15, 2016

    http://www.amazon.com/Mose-Rager-Ken...ilpage_o00_s00

    Thanks to John Doaks @ Monroe mandolin Appreciation society for bringing it to my attention on FB..

    Here's part of Compton's take on Shultz's influence on Monroe ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4OUlYAVYWA
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    Wow.

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    What do you think the story is with the baton?
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    Isn't he just joke-conducting the band for a larky photograph?

    I wonder who "unidentified man" is. He could tell a story or two.

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    I wonder what year that photo.was taken. Wouldn't it have been incredible to have had a young Bill Monroe in it,with the 2 people who began to shape his whole musical outlook - his Uncle Pen & Arnold Shultz,
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    "He hung up his fiddle, he hung up his baton"

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    Before reading the caption I thought he was holding fiddle sticks.

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    Judging the book by its cover... looks interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanN View Post
    "He hung up his fiddle, he hung up his baton"
    "He knew it was time for him to move on..."
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    Allen, you'd score more points if you worked TANPON in there somehow....

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    First ever photo of Arnold Shultz....just published in the new book ..
    "Mose Rager - Kentucky s Incomparable Guitar Master" in Hardcover – April 15, 2016
    So then, is it a given that this photo of Arnold Schultz is mis-labeled?

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    That's supposed to be a photo of Arnold with Clarence Wilson.
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    It is mind boggling to think of the amount of music that was directly or indirectly derived from this man's playing and influence.

    First his influence on Monroe leading to all of modern bluegrass and a lot of the country music. Then through Mose Rager and Kennedy Jones it lead to Merle Travis who lead to Chet and to Doc's fingerstyle playing, to most all of the country chicken pickers and a large part of the folk fingerstyle playing. That would be everyone from Brad Paisley and Brent Mason through Tommy Emmanuel, Pete Huttlinger and Marcel Dadi. Then lastly though Rager's friend Ike Everly with his boys Don and Phil and their role in early rock and roll. They influenced ALL of the rock and roll at least through the 1960s or 1970s.

    That is an awfully long shadow cast by a guy who never had much for himself and who is almost unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlM View Post
    It is mind boggling to think of the amount of music that was directly or indirectly derived from this man's playing and influence.

    First his influence on Monroe leading to all of modern bluegrass and a lot of the country music. Then through Mose Rager and Kennedy Jones it lead to Merle Travis who lead to Chet and to Doc's fingerstyle playing, to most all of the country chicken pickers and a large part of the folk fingerstyle playing. That would be everyone from Brad Paisley and Brent Mason through Tommy Emmanuel, Pete Huttlinger and Marcel Dadi. Then lastly though Rager's friend Ike Everly with his boys Don and Phil and their role in early rock and roll. They influenced ALL of the rock and roll at least through the 1960s or 1970s.

    That is an awfully long shadow cast by a guy who never had much for himself and who is almost unknown.
    It is an amazing legacy.
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    Thanks for remembering Ike Everly Carl. I saw a UK TV documentary many years ago about the Everly's & their musical background.In it was a visit that they made to Mose Rager. I'd never heard of the guy before,but as an avid Chet Atkins / Merle Travis fan,it was fairly obvious where their style originated from,also the style of Ike Everly. I seem to remember that Mose Rager played with a very 'simplistic' thumb & first finger style,but he was one dickens of a picker,
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    So then, is it a given that this photo of Arnold Schultz is mis-labeled?

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    That's supposed to be a photo of Arnold with Clarence Wilson.
    Thanks for pointed that out.. that photo has been in circulation for some years...and they seem to match up pretty good..
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