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    Hey everyone!

    Found this little guy at River Market Antiques last weekend and picked him up because the price was right. I know he's pretty beat up, but can anyone give me some info or background on him from these pics? I can't seem to find anything in the way of a label.

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    I would guess it is a lower end Lyon & Healy product. Good luck finding tuners for it.
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    The first thing I'd be looking at would be 12 string tuners.
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    Did L&H make 12-strings? I thought this was mostly an Oscar Schmidt thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    Did L&H make 12-strings? I thought this was mostly an Oscar Schmidt thing.
    I knew that OS made them, I just assumed Jim could ID it.
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    Headstock and scratch plate don't look Schmidt-y to me. Nor does the body shape.

    Of the X L+H bowl backs that I've had the fretboard off of, all of them (albeit they were Washburns and / American Conservatory or L+H house brand) had the neck dovetail accessible, rather than under the top as this one shows.

    Not that any of that is a definitive non-L+H ID in and of itself. They built so many mandolins that this method might have been used as well.

    Looks a bit crude all the way around for either Schmidt or L+H, besides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    Did L&H make 12-strings? I thought this was mostly an Oscar Schmidt thing.
    Other makers made them but in US prob OS made lots. There were also 12-string mandolins made in Europe, esp Italy and Germany.

    Here is a page from 1920 L&H catalog and they show the same cut in a 1909 page as well.

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    Wow. How's a 12-string tuned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Lewis View Post
    Wow. How's a 12-string tuned?
    Either with the same gauge of strings as a normal 8 string but three strings to a course OR with an octave string (usually in the middle) for the two lower courses. Either way it is harder to play but it IS louder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    The first thing I'd be looking at would be 12 string tuners.
    Here's a set of tuners from an OS 12 string on the ebay.

    Don't know what the spacing is on these. Tuners might be more $$ than the instrument cost. Can't play it without them, I suppose.

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    OP says "the price was right"; hope it was less than $10.

    Tuners are one thing, fretboard's another. And is that the end of a dowel showing at the neck joint? Multiple back splits, pick erosion around the soundhole -- wow!

    If this ever gets restored, I'd love to see the end product of the restoration process. I'd say resuscitating this one would be a monumental task.
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