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    That's one word for it ... yowza!

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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMAZING-Anto...-/131610600830

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    That's truly one of a kind. Thank goodness.

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    Nothing that Antonio Tsai sells is one of a kind. Unfortunately there will be others.
    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    There is a local music store with three of these novelties; hideous.

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    That will really grab eyeballs at the next jam. Should elicit a few comments too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Hildreth View Post
    ... hideous.
    Yeah but... When the wood dries and it starts falling apart, does it get a) more hideous or b) less hideous?

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    Lipstick on a pig.
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    I maybe wrong, but it is highly doubtful.

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    Is it really more profitable for antoniotsai and brucewei to inlay the heck out of lower teir instruments, as opposed to investing that energy into making great instruments?

    I do like my Eastmans....
    Playing a no-point 14-fret-to-the-body oval-hole with scroll, a Flatiron 1SH mandola (original owner), a McNally Ukulele Strumstick in CGDA mandola tuning, a McNally 4-string Chromatic Strumstick in GDAE octave mandolin tuning, and rocking my six-course, unison-tuned 12-string Ovation mandophone/extended cittern in CGDAEB Full Fifths Tuning...

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    Those instruments come from Vietnam. If they ever figure out how to make a normal copy of an A with a snakehead headstock that isn't blinged up they will probably own the low end market. Same if they can ever do a real F style. Until then they impress some people enough to buy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdHanrahan View Post
    Yeah but... When the wood dries and it starts falling apart, does it get a) more hideous or b) less hideous?

    Several years ago, The Kennedys played a concert in Montclair, NJ. Maura played a stunning "F-style" full-size guitar that had to be retired in the middle of the show. Being several years old (see their 2008 "Better Dreams" album cover), it had reached its expiration date.
    I just looked at that cover. Two Tsai Guitars and two Tsai mandolins. Really??????
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    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    I dunno - more inlay maybe

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    Betcha that tailpiece won't last six months.
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    Maybe it just needs.......
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    I kinda wish someone would build a real mandolin in that shape so we could see whether it has any interesting acoustic properties.
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    I think what keeps 'em going is that eBay buyers think, "how bad can it be for $250?" (or whatever--this one is being sold by a guy in Texas for $450) I've heard most of them implode before they make it to the buyer or shortly after, although Antoniotsai's feedback is 99% and he has done over 31,000 transactions, so......somebody likes 'em. I saw some in person at a guitar show and although inlaid, the quality is very poor, IMHO

    Also, it might appeal to those wanting a heavily inlaid instrument for about 1% of what Martin might charge you.....of course, you've got to really be into dragons..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by George R. Lane View Post
    Lipstick on a pig.
    Maybe we should buy one for our Prime Minister.
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    You'd think that with all that inlay work and fancy body binding, that they would put some binding on the edges of the fingerboard and at the peg head. Kinda strange that they didn't. Maybe they thought that would be too much, LOL.

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    The thing may implode and in short order as mine basically did and before that the fret layout was off and was unplayable up the neck. The finish is poorly done as well with lots of little blemishes. The inlay is not to everyone's taste to be sure but there was nothing wrong with the inlay--that's done rather well! It is the instrument that is bunk! The tailpiece will not fail though as someone suggested --the thing is about a pound and a half of solid brass! That's a post Vietnam War benefit from millions of shell casings littering the country side! I was just over that way and I see the problem --the humidity is about 95% and most likely these instruments are not produced in any kind of climate controlled environment nor is the wood, no matter what the source, likely to be stored in such a way as to not come up to equilibrium with the relative humidity. Maybe they would work pretty good if you live in a jungle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    I just looked at that cover. Two Tsai Guitars and two Tsai mandolins. Really??????
    Maybe they got a good deal if they agreed to show them on the cover.

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    If Liberace had played mandolin it would have been a match made in heaven.

    Since he didn't (as far as I know) I can think of a different kind of match that would be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barney 59 View Post
    The thing may implode and in short order as mine basically did and before that the fret layout was off and was unplayable up the neck. The finish is poorly done as well with lots of little blemishes.
    "Sold as-is with no warranty or returns." Forget about any 48-hour approval with these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    Those instruments come from Vietnam. If they ever figure out how to make a normal copy of an A with a snakehead headstock that isn't blinged up they will probably own the low end market. Same if they can ever do a real F style.
    Quote Originally Posted by barney 59 View Post
    The thing may implode and in short order as mine basically did and before that the fret layout was off and was unplayable up the neck. The finish is poorly done as well with lots of little blemishes. The inlay is not to everyone's taste to be sure but there was nothing wrong with the inlay--that's done rather well! It is the instrument that is bunk!
    Although I've seen Tsai's instruments and am not a big fan of somewhat sketchy instruments with overdone inlay, I will say that the 2 Vietnamese made mandolins I own (from Duc Ngan) have been in fine working condition now for a number of years, the wood has not split, the inlays are intact, the tone is fine.

    Evidently not all of these instruments are made alike.



    The one in the picture is a much more normal shape, has the special side soundholes and inner rim resonator - and and doesn't have the plastic look of the Tsai instruments.

    http://www.chionline.com/Antoniotsai/

    Lots of complaints about Tsai's instruments

    http://www.chionline.com/Antoniotsai/positive.html

    Some positive comments

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/261529993186...MakeTrack=true

    One similar to mine for sale

    http://www.saigonstrings.com/mandolin.htm

    Like mine




    http://www.thanhcammusic.com/guitar.htm

    They make an F sort of mandolin, no idea if it's any good


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    http://www.vietstrings.com/mandolins

    Another seller of the ones like mine - more expensive

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    and I never have seen one like this - F holes and the side sound holes!


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    I'm near a Vietnamese Buddhist temple, and know quite a few Vietnamese musicians. i was surprised to play at least two of the mandolins, and to find them to be very lively.
    Playing a no-point 14-fret-to-the-body oval-hole with scroll, a Flatiron 1SH mandola (original owner), a McNally Ukulele Strumstick in CGDA mandola tuning, a McNally 4-string Chromatic Strumstick in GDAE octave mandolin tuning, and rocking my six-course, unison-tuned 12-string Ovation mandophone/extended cittern in CGDAEB Full Fifths Tuning...

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    They are pretty lively sounding indeed!

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