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    To illustrate the point, I've just done a quick online image search and found the attached four mandolins on brick-and-mortar auction sites in the UK: these are labelled, respectively, Model A, 1A, B and 1A again, dating from 1899 to 1905. I don't see any systematic differences in appointments with model numbers: the 1905 A has the swirl inlay rather than the vine, but I think that's because it's a later year. The 1903 1A has a couple extra frets, but again that seems more likely to be the later year rather than the model specs as the 1899 1A doesn't have them.

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    Martin, the 'quality' distinction between models 1, 1A and B is an interesting take. I like the deductive thinking behind it.

    John and Dave's experience far out strips mine with these. I've owned three (all 1As) and played a couple others. The two I have now have gone through extensive repairs so I have had them almost completely apart. Very clean, very careful work inside. Nice construction details. If this was their standard work with the volume they produced, that is an accomplishment. Some dimensional differences which kept me from swapping some parts, but a significant step above the MOR Neapolitan bowls.

    The Dorigas and better quality Ceccherinis are clearly a notch above.

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    Interesting and funny..

    Thank you all for the info. & thoughts.
    Nice to know about the quality of construction.

    I come from the classical guitar scene.
    So many more mysteries with mandolins than classical guitars.

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    Martin, I only have files of three De Meglio model Bs but two of those are labeled Giovanni De Meglio (not Cav. G De M) which have their own serial number system different from the Cav. G De M. The third is the one you posted.

    Not a big enough sample to make any conclusions by. It would be interesting / helpful to see if any other Bs turn up.

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    I have just bought a 1A from 1897 s/n 6237

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    Quote Originally Posted by derbex View Post
    I have just bought a 1A from 1897 s/n 6237
    Thanks! Got yours added to the SN codex. Do you have any photos of the DeMeglio you might post. In particular, shots of the label would be helpful.

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    1900 model 2 serial 9937 on eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavy View Post
    1900 model 2 serial 9937 on eBay.
    Thanks, John, I saw that this morning. It is in exceptional condition, isn't it?

    Doesn't look like the seller is interested in shipping Stateside, though I'm going to send a note to ask. That would be one to go for.

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    That is a nice one. Good luck, Mick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    That is a nice one. Good luck, Mick.
    Thanks, Jim. Kind of a diversion from my A5 MAS but looks worth a gambit (or some desultory bidding, as Martin calls it.) It probably will draw some attention.

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    Hello all. Picked up a De Meglio a few weeks back, 1905 Model A No. 3568

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    Bassboomer: can you post some pics including the label or at least tell us the serial number?
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    Will try to get some pics up this weekend. Serial number is 3568

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    Thanks, Bassboomer, I look forward to the pictures. My hunch, based on the SN and year that this will be a Giovanni De Meglio label rather than the Cav. G De Meglio (see post #29 above.) There were two separate SN sequences for the De Meglio mandolins.

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    Here's another one on eBay UK with readable label pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Here's another one on eBay UK with readable label pic.
    Thanks, Jim. I already added this one in. Nice looking De Meglio model 2.

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    Here it is

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    Cav. Giov. De Meglio serial #16652 model "0" dated 1910
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    Thanks, Rob!

    Are you sure that the second third number in the SN is a "6"? With its open top and little tail, it looks quite different from the first "6". Maybe a "4"? Not sure. I checked a back into my files of DeM labels and there are more examples of this type of penmanship disparity between a "6" and a number (I'm guess "4") which looks like what is on the label you posted.

    Is this your DeMeglio? If you have other photos of the mandolin that you could post, that would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunello97 View Post
    Thanks, Rob!

    Are you sure that the second third number in the SN is a "6"? With its open top and little tail, it looks quite different from the first "6". Maybe a "4"? Not sure. I checked a back into my files of DeM labels and there are more examples of this type of penmanship disparity between a "6" and a number (I'm guess "4") which looks like what is on the label you posted.

    Is this your DeMeglio? If you have other photos of the mandolin that you could post, that would be great.

    Mick
    Hi Mick!,
    Just enlarged the image and the two numbers are certainly different.
    Maybe a "4",and all the speculation I can possibly muster
    Will post other images shortly.
    Regards
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    It's been a while, but another data point: 1895 model 2 serial 3291

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavy View Post
    It's been a while, but another data point: 1895 model 2 serial 3291
    Thanks, John. I saw that one this morning. Model 2 looks nice but for a few bits of headstock veneer. Not sure what condition the neck might be in.

    I plan on putting in a few bids on this and see how the bidding goes. The shipping costs from the UK aren't as onerous as some I have seen.

    My guess is that case is faux croc, or at least I hope so. Don't know if croc falls under the banned import regulations in the US. I've been drooling over a pair of Lucchese crocodile skin boots for some time now. I admit I'm a bit ambivalent about them though from ethical pov, something I very inconsistently suffer from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunello97 View Post

    My guess is that case is faux croc, or at least I hope so. Don't know if croc falls under the banned import regulations in the US. I've been drooling over a pair of Lucchese crocodile skin boots for some time now. I admit I'm a bit ambivalent about them though from ethical pov, something I very inconsistently suffer from.

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    If it is Australian croc skin, most of that is farmed these days, not randomly shot in the wild if that allays your conscience a little.

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    Here's some pics of the 1895 one. I would not think the case is genuine croc or alligator. Those cases are usually chipboard. I have seen alligator covered violin cases and it is quite obvious.
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    Here's the croc Lucchese boots for comparison. I like the 'cherry' finish. BAS.

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