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Hi Folks,
I've been adding some of Hans' guitars on the site recently.
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His guitar builds are every bit as detailed and expressive as his mandolin builds. The guitars stay away from Martin and Gibson inspiration, and seem to stay within the old-time and finger-picking tradition, with Larson and Stella inspiration.
If you are a Brentrup owner (guitar or mandolin) and I don't have your instrument documented please don't hesitate to reach out with your serial number, pictures, and any stories of the build and/or other details. I hear from a lot of owners and folks buying/selling Brentrups, but know that there are still a lot of interesting mandolins out there that I haven't cataloged.
Larry
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I saw some of those guitars on The Podium site. They are pretty reasonably priced too.
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Yes, Podium has two. But he built a lot of interesting guitars. I wonder where they are? I know so many Brentrup mandolin owners, but I don't know any of the guitar owners.
Larry
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Maybe the Podium folks can help-- perhaps post something on their site?
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Merry Christmas & Happy New Year...and if you have a Brentrup that is not listed on the Registry please reach out and I'll add the serial number and pics for you.
Larry
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NFI, but an incredible Brentrup 3-Point M22 has just been listed at Acoustic Music Works. I added the details to the registry today.
The M22 was Hans' take on Orville's 3-point design. He experimented with where the neck met the body, and I've heard that this one sounds really great. Here's a pic of Charlie Rappaport giving it a spin:
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The body is slightly bigger than an F5, and has the extra point, so it requires a custom case. The two I've seen have custom Calton mandola cases that fit perfectly.
Here are a few more pics:
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I recently acquired my own M22C, otherwise I would be selling everything I own and a few pints of blood for this one.
As always, please reach out at anytime if your Brentrup is not listed in the registry.
Larry
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After reading this thread, I did a little research into modern builders experimenting with the 3 point Gibson shape. Maybe because I own a BRW mandolin, I ended up on Ben Wilcox (BRW) mandolin site, where I was surprised to notice that he, too, is building a three point that emulates the old Gibson 3 point. Notice that it has a loose scroll like you see on Monteleone mandolins.
It would be interesting to compare the sound of this 3 point Brentrup with Ben Wilcox's similar instrument, and also to an old pre-teens Gibson. I have a feeling they will all sound very different.
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It would be interesting to compare the sound of this 3 point Brentrup with Ben Wilcox's similar instrument, and also to an old pre-teens Gibson. I have a feeling they will all sound very different.
I agree. I bet both luthier copies would sound different from a Gibson, and both would be right on target with the sound the individual luthiers were aiming for.
Larry
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Larry,
I'm pretty sure that Brentrup 3 point was from Mandobar's collection. Boy, she has a good eye, and ear, to be sure.
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Han's three-point caused me to contact him for the first time. I just did not have the cash to burn and do not have it now either. I wonder how different it would sound from my A4C anyway.
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FYI, I have my Brentrup F5 2003 for sale at Schoenberg Guitars with pics of serial number at their website, if you wish to add it to the Brentrup Registry.
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FYI, I have my Brentrup F5 2003 for sale at Schoenberg Guitars with pics of serial number at their website, if you wish to add it to the Brentrup Registry.
Hi John,
Thanks for pointing that one out. I have added it for you, and here are the pics:
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Larry
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Thanks for putting this one on the Brentrup Registry Larry.
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Hans' carved pickguards are the best, how they mesh so nicely with the fingerboard.
I mean, his mandolins are awesome, but what a wonderful detail.
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So, is this considered one of Hans' PML's? Looks pretty plain but I bet it sounds nice and the price is very enticing. Here is the listing on Eric's site.
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no, he started making PML's a few years after that. He also made some internal changes around 2005/2006 that really opened the tone. My Stealth has much more presence than any of the other Brentrups that I have owned or played.
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So, Mary, what was that model termed and how was is different from the PMLs?
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I think the voicing is different, Jim. These were model 23's, the V at the end would mean the high trim level. L was a medium trim and there was a C level which was basic. Although he changed some of the designations as he went along, as the model 22C is a higher trim level in the 3 pointers.....so, as with Martin (guitars) there are changes that go with the historical line.
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Thanks for the code for understanding Hans's nomenclatures. I don't know why but I always get confused. Mine is fairly simple: A4C -- I assume classic copy of an A4. Not sure what the 22 and 23 mean. The 3 point is a 22 right so it has nothing to do with the year it is modeled on, right?
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No. The 23 is an f with f holes. Perhaps the registry should have a "key" which explains the models, etc.
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The 23 on the Brentrup models indicates that it is based on a 1923 F mandolin that was made by a well known company, desired by many, but one that most folks cannot afford (including me).
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The M22 was Hans' take on Orville's 3-point design. He experimented with where the neck met the body, and I've heard that this one sounds really great.
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The 23 on the Brentrup models indicates that it is based on a 1923 F mandolin that was made by a well known company, desired by many, but one that most folks cannot afford (including me).
So why does he call the 3 point the M22? There were no Gibson 3-points in 1922.
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I thought of that too. It was my understanding that at one point he was using the numerical 20, 21, 23 for model numbers. At some point he stuck the 22 in there and it threw me off too.