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Mojo on beloved Daley mandolin
I will never sell this mandolin. So should I address this worn finish or not? If so, what would you recommend?
Personally, I'm not worried about the appearance of honest mojo. (let's save the discussion of my right hand technique for another day) That said, I don't want to wear an actual hole in the top. I've thought about just applying a few coats of a sanding sealer or a shellac. But I don't know the consequences of that move. The clear pickguard material would bother me visually, I think. But I'm open to all suggestions. Prioritize integrity of the instrument.
Like me, life and age has wrinkled and roughed up this handsome devil a bit. Those who treasure impeccable instruments, rest easy in the knowledge that this one has been loved.
Rick
Forgot to add that this is Sim's (probably too) thin satin lacquer. Maybe that is why it sounds so good. Also, not sure what's up with the double posted pics.
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Sorry, I have no advice to offer, but how long has it taken you to put that amount of love into it? If years, I see no need for concern at this point.
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12+ years. So... Sam Bush mojo in 50 more?
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Wear it like it’s a badge of honour. Many hours of playing that mandolin got you there. I like it!
Have you thought about putting a pick guard on it? It would protect the top and also hide the bare spot.
Out of curiosity, have you had the mandolin refretted in last 12 years?
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Rick Crenshaw
I will never sell this mandolin. So should I address this worn finish or not? If so, what would you recommend?
eff no! leave it alone
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If it bothers you, for somewhere between $100-250 you can get that cleaned up by a good luthier at any point. If you keep going like you have, it'll get 10-20% more expensive after adjusting for inflation. We're not talking about Glen Hansard or Trigger situations here, if you want to get it fixed, it's within arm's reach.
Meanwhile, it's not pristine, so additional wear won't make or break anything. Enjoy it in good health.
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Rick Crenshaw
12+ years. So... Sam Bush mojo in 50 more?
No, in fact, I have not. Dressed twice, but not refretted.
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How will you feel when you start chewing through the top?
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Get yourself a guard then no worries? I personally love pickguards-the look and feel, I don't plant my right hand but use it as a guide for my style of playing, I can barely play a mandolin if it doesn't have a guard-its a mental block thing, my Uncle who has been a pro picker since the late 60's is the same way. He has to have a guard on his mandolins.
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I was a pinky planter too until I put finger rests on my current instruments. I opted for narrow ones made of ebony sanded out silky smooth and angled down about 15 degrees. It did change my technique, my fingers barely brush against it while I play, but it helps register where my hand/pick are in relation to the strings, which is what the pinky is doing for you now. I've found that bluegrassers generally hate the guard as it gets in the way of their aggressive style. A good luthier can touch it up for you but you really need a tougher finish in that one particular spot. There are post-catalyzed conversion varnishes that are very hard and tough and would seriously slow down or stop the wear. Also, keep that right pinky nail trimmed short and deburred with a good emery board.Attachment 180030
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I don’t plant my pinkie. This is from my little finger “dragging’ on the top. I’d have to put guards on my other mandolins I’d think should I go with guards. The other mandolins I own show spots on the finish but none other is near breaking through the finish. How far will this wear continue? I’m not sure. That’s why I think about protecting it with some finish.
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I like the looks of pickguards but prefer to play without them. I find that using an armrest changes my string attack enough that I don't get the pinky drag wear. Easy to try and easy to remove if you don't like it. I would also have someone touch it up.
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Rick,
Keep that pjnkie trimmed & rock on!
-craig
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I know this is the wrong hand, but if it were the right hand...no more pinky drag!
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jim simpson
I like the looks of pickguards but prefer to play without them. I find that using an armrest changes my string attack enough that I don't get the pinky drag wear. Easy to try and easy to remove if you don't like it. I would also have someone touch it up.
That’ sounds like an idea worth trying.
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Rick Crenshaw
That’ sounds like an idea worth trying.
What Jim said. For sure I'd get it professionally touched up. As was noted earlier at this point in time it is essentially "reversible" but as the wear continues it becomes a more difficult issue. If you don't like a pick guard and the arm rest idea does not work you could always consider your pick grip? The "Monroe style" grip that Mike Compton teaches has the little finger is tucked in -- but everyone has their own ideas about grip.
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If the appearance doesn't concern you, it probably will be fine. Willie's hasn't imploded yet in over 50 years of hard use, so......
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i would definitely have it touched up from time to time...not talking about refinishing, but just adding finish material to protect it. This gets done to my guitars when needed and prevents more wood loss and the extensive repairs that "Trigger" has endured over the years (from what Mr. Erlewine says in his videos, the guitar is indeed in danger of caving in). Charlie Derrington said he had to add a layer of spruce on the unerside of the famous F5, as it was getting paper thin. Retouching may not make it look mint, but it's beyond that and will be a whole big bunch better than slowly grinding thru the top. If Mr. Monroe and Willy had done this perhaps such damage wouldn't be trendy nowadays.
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Rick, I would do nothing. The initial wear happens faster than the subsequent wear. Once your past the finish and wear on the soft early wood, the late wood kind of holds it from there. If that wear took 6 months I might be a little concerned. But in 12 more years I do not think it will be twice as bad.
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Thanks for all the replies, guys. There are some good ideas. Still undecided but have some paths forward to look at. I'll be investigating armrests.
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Maybe the best argument for touching it up would be for preserving its value. You might not envision selling but it's likely that it will move on someday. i can't predict that or how much more it will wear in the future.
Buck's point of the wood wearing more early and less later is new to me. However, i suspect the overall finish will likely continue to wear and the bare area will spread. Yet another reason to nip it in the bud. i hope you like the path you choose.
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Give her a few coats of your favorite color rustoleum and — problem solved. The Frank Wakefield solution...
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Give her a few coats of your favorite color rustoleum and — problem solved. The Frank Wakefield solution...
You've gotta bake it in the oven as well.
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I have spots on my Gibson that I've worn off. I'm kind of proud of those spots.
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Just came across your thread while roaming around the Cafe. I had Sim build me a pick guard when he made my mandolin. If you have some sentimental reason for keeping it all "Daley", contact him through his website and I am sure he would be happy to take your money.:)