Re: Making an Eastman Sing
Try a Clayton Ultem in .72. I have been using one in place of my BC and Wegen lately.
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My favorite sounding pick for my Eastman is an old Red Bear Trading pick.
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When I first started guitar 43 years ago I used those Dunlop .73's or .88's because that's what you could get in my small town. As soon as I started mandolin about 10 years back I felt like those thin picks sounded like a baseball card flapping through bicycle spokes. I kept going to thicker picks, ultimately settling on 2.0 to 2.5 mm Wegen's in the typical rounded triangle mandolin shape vs the standard guitar teardrop. Like many I've tried a lot of picks (tortex, ultex, bone, horn, cassein, acrylic, golden gate, Dawg, primetone, blue chip). If you haven't tried a Dunlop gator in the 1.5 to 2.0 mm range I highly recommend them as great picks for the price. Tone and control are much better on the high tension dual strings of the mando with a stiff thick pick.
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I would strongly recommend going with a thicker pick for an Eastman MD305, something in the range of 0.035" to 0.060," which corresponds to 0.9 mm to 1.7 mm thickness. I would also recommend getting away from a softer plastic material, like nylon, and instead using a much harder, slippery plastic like polyetherimide (Ultex, used in Primetone and similar picks) or polyimide (Melden, Vespel, used in Bluechip picks). You may need to learn a new technique, but with practice, you will eventually achieve a faster and cleaner tremolo this way, along with increased volume and a rounder, "thicker" tone.
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Thanks for the comments. I guess there's a wide variation on what each of us is looking for (or listening for) in a mandolin. Certainly the heavier types of plectrum are just too dull-sounding for my ears, the harmonic content of string and instrument is muted and muffled. But that's me. Others will seek other ideals. As I mentioned it may be my ageing ears which don't hear what others are hearing, that could play a role too.
At any rate, I see the Eastman as just a small experiment, it isn't really the end destination, more of a temporary stopover.
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Thanks for the comments. I guess there's a wide variation on what each of us is looking for (or listening for) in a mandolin. Certainly the heavier types of plectrum are just too dull-sounding for my ears, the harmonic content of string and instrument is muted and muffled. But that's me. Others will seek other ideals. As I mentioned it may be my ageing ears which don't hear what others are hearing, that could play a role too.
It's always interesting to me how each player can have such different responses to picks. I have two Eastman mandolins - an MD505 and MD315. I do the occasional pick test, but I've been loving the Primetone 1.5mm picks for a couple of months, both for the feel and action as well as for the resulting sound. The "dullness" you note with heavier pics still seems overly bright to my ears, especially if I use something like an EJ74 string set. At the moment, the slightly darker monel string and the Primetone 1.5mm are perfect to my ears. I too have aging ears and don't hear as well as I used to, so I often wonder what a "too bright" sound to me must be like for a young set of ears! :)
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Just an observation here, but you mention that you'd played flat top and bowl back mandolins in the past, in other words - mandolins with oval holes rather than f-holes like the 305 has. Much of what you describe as wanting to change in the 305's sound seems typical of f-hole mandolins vs. oval hole.
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I was sold on Dunlop nylons picks, usually the black ones, for years. I used the old-school black ovation heavies on mando, but they no longer make those. When I started playing mandocello, I went back to square one. I tried everything, even the "boutique" picks. The Dunlops still worked okay, but after about a year of "retrying" everything I had tried before, and a lot more, I settled on the Wegan 1.2mm. I also use them on my gold-top Eastman, as well as on guitar. The price has taken a serious uptick in the last couple of years, but still costs well less than the Blue Chip. A great mandolin pick.
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If you don't lose your pick Wegens are great, I've been using them for over a decade and never wore one out yet.
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It's always interesting to me how each player can have such different responses to picks.
This is so true. I was fortunate enough to be on the list for both of the Travelling Pick Samplers. As anyone who has been part of that will agree, it is pretty cool to sit for hours and try dozens of picks that you most-likely have never used before. Everyone comes out of it with widely varying opinions of which is best. There are so many picks that people have raved about that I absolutely hated. And, there are also ones that I have raved about that others hated. There are Blue Chip models that I really like a lot, I like the Dunlop Ultex, I like the standard Fender Extra Heavy celluloid picks, and sometimes I like the Dunlop Primetone. The one constant for me is the size and shape. I have always used the large triangle (346) shape. Anything else just does not feel right in my hand. But material and thickness does not matter, only how it sounds. The pick that I have really liked a lot lately is the D'Andrea RADEX. I stumbled upon this pick on a Facebook group and decided to try it. There is very little info about it on the internet, except a handful of places to buy it. Virtually no reviews. I decided to try it and, so far, it's my favorite pick I've tried. You just never know what's going to work for you until you try it.
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Blue Chip all the way. Nothing quite like it.
Enjoy your MD 305. It’s a fine instrument.
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I like blue chips, modified a bit thinner for mando, V-pick tremolo are also great but my favorites are the old forbidden tortoise shell! They are my favorite and one can still find them as years ago there were many products that used shell, mirror backs, picture frames, brush backs etc...if you can pick up old broken stuff off evilbay you can make and shape your own and I believe they sound great? I've been using one for years now, you just can't make them real thin or they tend to chip away.
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I also did not look back after the Blue Chip. My favorite for guitar for many years was the green Dunlop but it is a bit bright on a mandolin. The D'Andrea has a remarkable warm sound and good feel. It's probably my choice if I lost the Blue Chip. I wish I had a Wegan to test, but what do I do with a whole box of picks? If all else fails I can trade in my black pick for a beer.
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Blue Chip TAD 40 1R on my Eastman 515. Or the grippy Primetone if I'm afraid of losing #1.
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More to it than picks. Look up my how to do mandovoodoo post, somewhere in here. Lots of warmth and sweetness in the Eastman line. Just have to bring it out.