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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
Unfortunately the Cafe has probably given this instrument more value than it deserves. As much as we would like it to be some sort of holy grail there are just too many sketchy things going on here.
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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
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Originally Posted by
Roger Moss
There's nothing remotely associated to this in the Siminoff article. That's not unknown information.
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RARE & UNUSUAL could probably apply to the label; it's pretty unusual and possibly so rare as to say there's never been another like it.
Anybody notice how crisp the lettering is on his "better view close-up" of the label as opposed to the "weathered" label inside the instrument? I wanted to mention this in the original thread, but decided to hold my peace. The "close up" shot shows lettering that is perfectly printed and almost looks embossed; also, the paper appears to be that course old type of paper that shows fibers, but doesn't appear weathered at all. Either it is a different label altogether than the one inside the instrument, or this guy has heavily photoshopped that image.
Surely I'm not the only one who got that impression on the first go-round?
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Glue looks fresh.
First image, top edge of label, seems label has been applied over existing scratches, gouges. Am I being too suspicious?
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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
My apologies, that original thread was locked down, I probably shouldn't have posted here ... please delete if my post is inappropriate.
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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
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MikeEdgerton
Please warn me next time before you do that.
Yes PLEASE! I dropped a whole handful of mashed potatoes and gravy!:grin:
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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
It was locked down because of the OP saying he was going to sell it. No problem posting the labels.
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I guess I lost interest, didn’t know it had been locked down.
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Timbofood
Yes PLEASE! I dropped a whole handful of mashed potatoes and gravy!:grin:
You eat mashed potatoes and gravy with your hands?!
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Charles E.
You eat mashed potatoes and gravy with your hands?!
You can't take him out to eat.
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MikeEdgerton
You can't take him out to eat.
Depends on where you go. I know one local place where that would make him either one of the crowd or the entertainment, depending on the night. :grin:
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Originally Posted by
Mark Gunter
RARE & UNUSUAL could probably apply to the label; it's pretty unusual and possibly so rare as to say there's never been another like it.
Anybody notice how crisp the lettering is on his "better view close-up" of the label as opposed to the "weathered" label inside the instrument? I wanted to mention this in the original thread, but decided to hold my peace. The "close up" shot shows lettering that is perfectly printed and almost looks embossed; also, the paper appears to be that course old type of paper that shows fibers, but doesn't appear weathered at all. Either it is a different label altogether than the one inside the instrument, or this guy has heavily photoshopped that image.
Surely I'm not the only one who got that impression on the first go-round?
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Attachment 171734
Attachment 171735
Glue looks fresh.
First image, top edge of label, seems label has been applied over existing scratches, gouges. Am I being too suspicious?
Its Junk...
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Originally Posted by
MikeEdgerton
You can't take him out to eat.
The last time it happened, I was out at a big, fancy, expensive restaurant and the girl I was out with (she was wearing one of those really deep plunging neckline dresses) took a fork and scratched her back right in the middle of that place! I was so embarrassed...
With greatest respect to the memory of the late Billy Ray Latham. May he laugh in peace.
To be fair, dropping the handful is preferable to spraying coffee all over a coffee shop, isn’t it?
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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
I think we're going to have to draw straws to see who has to take you out for lunch Tim :cool:
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Any time buddy!
We will have to go someplace elegant!:grin:
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Timbofood
someplace elegant!:grin:
The Road Kill Grill of Kalamazoo. Can't get any better than that.
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Timbofood
... took a fork and scratched her back ...
That's what I call resourceful. With the right sweeping motion and a dainty two-finger grip on the fork it can be more elegant than picking your nose with chopsticks. Lauren Bacall might have done that in The Big Sleep and got away with it.
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Mark Gunter
The Road Kill Grill of Kalamazoo. Can't get any better than that.
No such joint here, no matter what anyone says and if there were they would be faking it.
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Bertram Henze
That's what I call resourceful. With the right sweeping motion and a dainty two-finger grip on the fork it can be more elegant than picking your nose with chopsticks. Lauren Bacall might have done that in The Big Sleep and got away with it.
Lauren Bacall could have scratched her back with a gravediggers shovel and made it look good!
Oh, and +2 points for thread integration!:grin:
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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
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Originally Posted by
Timbofood
The last time it happened, I was out at a big, fancy, expensive restaurant and the girl I was out with (she was wearing one of those really deep plunging neckline dresses) took a fork and scratched her back right in the middle of that place! I was so embarrassed...
I feel your pain. Everybody knows the correct utensil to scratch your back with, in public, is the knife.
Now might be a good time to ask if she had a tiny dog in her purse, because she has a lot of class... unfortunately, it's all low.
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Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer
Regarding labels, I notice that a 1931 label shows GIBSON, Inc. rendered as I have typed it. This was an era when punctuation was not "more honoured in the breach than in the observance" like it is, today.
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This a label from a 1939 Gibson archtop guitar. It was pointed out by a Cafe member in the earlier thread.
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The label I saw, was this one- 1931 Nick Lucas. It's definitely an early 1930s Nick Lucas so the date is accurate.Attachment 171807
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I still think the Gibson relationship with Virzi was done by that time. Beyond that I'm amazed that I wasn't able to find any ready documentation of Gibson using that name. They obviously did for a long period of time.
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I think you are probably right about Virzi and the Gibson connection- it was probably over by 1931 if not quite a few years earlier. Personally, I think the instrument, which stylistically reminds me of central Europe is early 1930s at the newest. I wonder if the Wall Street Crash and the subsequent Depression derailed various activities and collaborations as the reverberations from those financial cataclysms were great. Although it may be a US made instrument, it could be a less expensive European manufactured item kitted out with American hardware, after its arrival. I would have thought that if it had been made in the USA, there would be some knowledge of it among members of this board as it surely would have been part of a reasonable production run. From an UK perspective, US made instruments were very expensive in comparison to what could be sourced from Germany, Czechoslovakia or Italy back in the 1920s and 1930s. It would have been the same in the USA- your profit margin would be much greater if the instrument was made in Europe.