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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
well, you did it! I was to chime in on the CT55 as well. I got one with the rounded corner, just to give me another option. Never use the rounded corner.
I also (really) like the Wegan TF140 - got those in white and black!
Played for a long spell with the Blue Chip Jazz Heavy too. They are nice for precision and I usually use it for playing classical stuff (i.e., working on the Bach two-part inventions with a guitar buddy).
Have fun!
f-d
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Mark Wilson
If you just want to rant (and I enjoy a good rant) at least read the OP first. Otherwise it seems like you might just have a Chip on your shoulder
Believe it or not, I did read the OP before replying in post #11. Admittedly, I don't take expressions like "every imaginable pick" literally. Hence the suggestion of the Gravity Gold Series.
My second post was in response to a reply to my post and much more general. I mean "you" as in "one" here - or, indeed, "any player" as in the quote.
Nevertheless, I apologise for the digression.
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
Having used a lot of different picks over the years, have found that in the right circumstances, the Blue Chip are a good choice. In general, I like them more for guitar than mandolin. They do seem to produce more pick noise on my mandolins. In fact, one guitar player I know hates it when I use them (or my Manouche picks) as the noise is too distracting for him in a large jam session. (The only picks he likes are Dunlop Tortex).
Then again, my mentor uses Dunlop nylon (medium or heavy).
Have been recently switching between BC, Wegen Bluegrass 1.0, Primetone 1.0 and Pickboy Metacarbonate. Depending on mood and how I want a tune to sound.
Am definitely not pro or anti-Blue Chip. They are just another option. They don't work for everyone. The player is still more important than the pick.
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Eric Platt
The player is still more important than the pick.
That's a good point.
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Originally Posted by
fatt-dad
well, you did it! I was to chime in on the CT55 as well. I got one with the rounded corner, just to give me another option. Never use the rounded corner.
I also (really) like the Wegan TF140 - got those in white and black!
Played for a long spell with the Blue Chip Jazz Heavy too. They are nice for precision and I usually use it for playing classical stuff (i.e., working on the Bach two-part inventions with a guitar buddy).
Have fun!
f-d
Hey F-D! Thanks for the response. Good to talk to ya!
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I personally cannot say enough about the BC's. I have the TAD50's and CT55's (lean more toward the CT's). Also have quite a few of the Primetones and Dunlop Ultex's, of which the sound and glide for me is not nearly as good as the BC's and I find that they wear quite rapidly. I've used one of the BC's (a CT55) at minimum 5 days/nights per week for about 2 years now played very hard (on both guitar and mandolin) and other than a few surface scratches, it doesn't show any signs of wear. If they start to slip in my fingers, I simply wash with mild soap and water ... no more slippage. IMHO the BC's are a quality made pick and well worth the purchase. It's kind of strange (and I was guilty of it ), and it puzzles me that people will spend $3000-$8000 (or more) on a quality mandolin, but have an issue spending $35 bucks for a quality pick.
JMTCW
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
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KGreene
..., but have an issue spending $35 bucks for a quality pick.
JMTCW
Yeah, I thought the price was ridiculous when I bought my first BC pick. Felt the same way when I bought my second. Even made me kind of mad to pay that again when I bought my third. I'm probably going to be really peeved soon when I have to buy my fourth.
...I think the price is ridiculous and I am going to keep buying them--Thats got to say something. Still I keep hoping if I can get a little better, maybe I can go back to the wegen tf140 like Chris Thile did. I still do go back and try the Wegen from time to time but I'm just not there yet. I drag and stumble. I need the CT55 to play my best.
I think the better you are, the less the pick matters. I need all the help I can get.
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
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KGreene
I personally cannot say enough about the BC's. I have the TAD50's and CT55's (lean more toward the CT's). Also have quite a few of the Primetones and Dunlop Ultex's, of which the sound and glide for me is not nearly as good as the BC's and I find that they wear quite rapidly. I've used one of the BC's (a CT55) at minimum 5 days/nights per week for about 2 years now played very hard (on both guitar and mandolin) and other than a few surface scratches, it doesn't show any signs of wear. If they start to slip in my fingers, I simply wash with mild soap and water ... no more slippage. IMHO the BC's are a quality made pick and well worth the purchase. It's kind of strange (and I was guilty of it ), and it puzzles me that people will spend $3000-$8000 (or more) on a quality mandolin, but have an issue spending $35 bucks for a quality pick.
JMTCW
Everything KGreene says is true, I used one for years. If your mandolin is bright in the G string you most likely will love it. My mandolin has more depth in the G string and for me the Wegen is better. It still glides, but doesn't have the polished surface of the BC that is so tactile and not slippery.
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I play the big triangle BCs in 80 and 100. Also have a CT55 that’s a little too thin and a 40 that just doesn’t beat the Wegen 140 on the tenor banjo. You thin pick guys have it good. You can’t get the 80s and 100s for $35.
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I too am a BC fan... but not for every mandolin/string/music style combo.
I like the CT55 on my Weber for most music... especially bluegrass. And it sounds best with GHS A270 strings. This is my best combination.
I don't like my BC on my Flat top... playing Old Time or hymns. Here I think the Wegen TF120 is best.
Picks are fun! Have fun with your BC! Try many combinations too :)
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
I love the material but haven't found the shape that works for me off the peg yet.
They're very slappy even the long jazz ones. Too much clicking, not a problem when bashing away, but anything with a piano dynamic it just gets annoying.
As I’m adapting them anyway I baulk at hacking an expensive one like a BC so stick to hacking the Primetones or using buffalo horn.
I thought I had access to some of the material via a friend last year, but they only get very small slivers as off-cuts so that was no good. Still sniffing about for an accessible source that doesn't need to be bought in multiple sheets.
Definitely fun but trying multiple shapes of expensive ones isn’t really practical from outside the US.
That $35 translates to an equivalent of approx $48 by the time we get hold of one, so that changes the perspective a bit.
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
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Originally Posted by
KGreene
I personally cannot say enough about the BC's. I have the TAD50's and CT55's (lean more toward the CT's). Also have quite a few of the Primetones and Dunlop Ultex's, of which the sound and glide for me is not nearly as good as the BC's and I find that they wear quite rapidly. I've used one of the BC's (a CT55) at minimum 5 days/nights per week for about 2 years now played very hard (on both guitar and mandolin) and other than a few surface scratches, it doesn't show any signs of wear. If they start to slip in my fingers, I simply wash with mild soap and water ... no more slippage. IMHO the BC's are a quality made pick and well worth the purchase. It's kind of strange (and I was guilty of it ), and it puzzles me that people will spend $3000-$8000 (or more) on a quality mandolin, but have an issue spending $35 bucks for a quality pick.
JMTCW
Well said, KGreene. I appreciate the points you have made. Also, the procedure for cleaning the pick when it begins to slip from one's hand is very helpful info. Thanks for spelling that out for us! Dan
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
The BC is another tool in the arsenal. It gets pulled out when conditions (venue, setting, tune etc.) dictate it is the best choice. Other times it waits while something else gets used.
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
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JeffD
The BC is another tool in the arsenal. It gets pulled out when conditions (venue, setting, tune etc.) dictate it is the best choice. Other times it waits while something else gets used.
Yes, Jeff! You know, in all the Blue Chip threads I have read no one ever commented on the moral decency of the BC picks as well as their patience. I have never heard any of my Blue Chip picks complain when I play with another pick. Yet another reason to buy one. :)
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My new CT55 pick arrived quickly and I got busy playing with it. The tone it produces is as advertised-- excellent. The volume is not as loud as the V Pick Saga, but it allows for increased volume with a firmer attack. The thing that pleasantly surprised me is that this pick feels great in my hand! It is comfortable and easy to hold, adhering itself more and more as my hour-long practice continued. The V Picks are great for not slipping. This Blue Chip is even more that way-- hard to drop! The speed bevel allows for smooth double picking. The tone is warm with the right amount of brightness. This is a great tool for the player. I am sure that I will utilize it often and will continue to use my Dunlop .88's on guitars and my V Pick Saga's for some mandolin applications.
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
Good! I'm pleased that you're enjoying it.
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
I've noticed that I drop $35 picks with considerably less frequency than I did $2 picks....
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Pjones3
I've noticed that I drop $35 picks with considerably less frequency than I did $2 picks....
Great line! Love it! :))
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Pjones3
I've noticed that I drop $35 picks with considerably less frequency than I did $2 picks....
Yes, and lose them entirely even less often.
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
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Thane Glenn
I think it's well worth investing in at least one Blue Chip to see if you like it. I find they bring out a bit more of the woody tones of the instrument, while also producing bell clarity to the notes, and they play very smoothly, as well. The TAD-1R 60 is my go-to pick. I use the angled corners for more aggressive playing, the rounded corner for a rounder, deeper, mellower sound. For what it's worth, my second choice is the Wegen TF 140, which I use quite a lot.
Pretty much my thinking, though I almost never use the rounded end of my BC. I use Wegen dippers, 1.4 for guitar, 1.8 for mandolin, too. I like to have a pick for every instrument. My BC stays with the Silverangel, Wegens everywhere else for cost reasons. The Dipper has three different tip profiles.
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I bought a Blue ChipTAD 60 and decided to do an experiment to see if the Blue Chip is superior to other mandolin picks. I asked a friend to listen to me playing my Eastman 305 mandolin with each of three picks; the Blue Chip TAD 60, a Golden Gate MP 12 Deluxe tortoise style rounded mandolin pick, and a Dunlop 1.5 mm Maxigrip nylon pick. She couldn't see which I was using and had her eyes closed. On the first go round, where I played a solo from a Stanley Brothers tune, she picked the Golden Gate pick as the most pleasing to her ear. On the second go round, where I played "Oh Susannah", by Stephen Foster, she picked the Blue Chip. We agreed, they all sound great but the Golden Gate, which only costs about $1, sounds most similar to the Blue Chip which costs $35. The Dunlop costs about $.50 per pick and can be bought in a pack of 12. I concluded "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"!
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Re: Considering a Blue Chip Pick?
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Originally Posted by
Jim Garber
Yes, Jeff! You know, in all the Blue Chip threads I have read no one ever commented on the moral decency of the BC picks as well as their patience. I have never heard any of my Blue Chip picks complain when I play with another pick. Yet another reason to buy one. :)
There is that. :)
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Just a word of praise here
I keep a BC in my pocket in the event of finding an instrument that I desire to play. I was at a client’s home that had an older mandocello. Nice instrument with a rich deep tone. I will need to determine the maker next time I am there.
I showed the BC to him and had him give it a try on one of his acoustic big body Gibson guitars. HE LOVED IT! Yep. “That really has a nice tone. I usually use the rounded side of a pick to get the tone I want.”
Gotta love a BlueChip.
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The Wegen "mandolin"-shape picks are great(multiple thicknesses) Have several BC's in 60 and 70 thickness ;wish Blue Chip made a pick shaped like the Wegen(M-series?)
I reckon the SR Blue Chip is closest to the Wegen M-shape?
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Perhaps everything has been said, but it got me thinking about how easy it has been through the years to acquire PAS (as opposed to MAS) and how much fun can be had for less money than always buying mandolins. (bite my tongue!)
I've bought, tried, lost, sold, and enjoyed lots of picks, but mostly Blue Chips.
My first 2 were TP 50 & 60 with points and bevels. Switched to TAD 60 & 50 when they became available and of course got the CT55.
Enjoyed these for years before trying one without a bevel (didn't like) and then just had to try a TAD 80.
Got one pick with a rounded corner, but never used that corner, and eventually decided to get back to my roots with a smaller pick.
Now I'm using mostly TP 50s, although I recently got a 48 to see what Bryan Sutton likes about them.:)
I've lost 2, gifted 1, and sold many of those picks as I continued the PAS affliction, but I remain happy with my PAS fun. (And I haven't even mentioned casein and other picks.):redface: