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Feb-10-2005, 10:45am
I just heard them on a Bluegrass station. I have never heard them but they sounded kinda like New Riders or The Dead type.

Was this one of those Weir and Garcia "jam" groups?

The song they played was "Runaways of the Moon." Sounded pretty good. Took me back a bit. Memories of them good(?) old days. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Feb-10-2005, 10:57am
A 'big, fat, black round object' in my collection:

MULESKINNER: A Potpourri of Bluegrass Jam
Warner Brothers Records, Inc. BS 2787. 1974
Peter Rowan - guitar & lead vocals
David Grisman - mandolin & harmony vocals
William Bradford ("Brad") Keith - banjo
Richard Greene - violin & bass vocals
Clarence White - lead and rhythmn guitar & harmony vocals
John Kahn - bass
John Guerin - drums.

There is a video that was released later, with additional material included.
Of note is the graphic on the back, which shows Rowan playing a mandola; maybe his long-lost Loar era one???

Feb-10-2005, 11:38am
Pardon my ignorance but where else have I heard Kahn's name? Old & in the Way or is it somewhere else?

That line up minus Garcia and Clements replacing a couple is just about the same as Old and In the Way.

Feb-10-2005, 12:23pm
I think Roland White played mandola on the intro to Opus 57 on that record.

Feb-10-2005, 12:32pm
I guess Clarence could have dragged his brother along for the session....
Tho Rowan is a pretty fair player of the mandolin-family instruments...

Feb-10-2005, 1:44pm
b. 1948, USA, d. 30 May 1996, Mill Valley, California, USA. Bass player John Kahn was best known for his contributions to the solo work of Grateful Dead founder and leader Jerry Garcia. Kahn's first mainstream work came in 1969 with his contributions to guitarist Mike Bloomfield, including albums such as The Live Adventures Of Mike Bloomfield And Al Kooper, It's Not Killing Me and Live At Bill Graham's Fillmore West. Kahn first linked with Garcia in 1970 as part of a collective of musicians based at San Francisco's Keystone Korner. His first recorded undertaking with Garcia was 1972's Hooteroll?, after which he worked on almost every Garcia solo and live project. This included Garcia's multifarious groups with keyboard player Merl Saunders as well as the bluegrass group Old (playing double bass) and the Way, which featured Garcia on banjo. His skills were also in demand for many other artists working in the Bay Area, leading to collaborations with John Lee Hooker, Nick Gravenites and Maria Muldaur. On record, he appeared with Mississippi Fred McDowell, Otis Rush, Jackie DeShannon and Brewer And Shipley. Kahn was still working regularly with Garcia until his death in 1995. Kahn himself died only a year later, a demise attributed to a narcotic drug overdose (his wife Linda was found in possession of narcotics after having reported the discovery of his body to the emergency services).

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Feb-10-2005, 2:02pm
I knew I had heard his name somewhere but couldn't remember where.

Feb-10-2005, 2:41pm
The video is a classic, for sure. I'd love to play a gig all dressed up in "Muleskinner" fashion - flares, silk shirts w/ giant collars and big hair! Anybody ever try this? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif