swing '42

[erick]

Anyone have a chord chart for the tune "Swing '42 " on the Grisman/Rice Tone Poems LP? thanks!

[Peter Hackman]

Do details matter? It's a standard turnaround in C on the outside and
in E on the inside.

[John Soper]

You can find chords and the basic melody line for "Swing 42" & some other tunes at:

http://www.visi.com/~mpv/charts/

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[250sc]

I was interested that the chart shows

I # VImin # #IImin # # V

I learned it from listening to a version on the tone poems CD and it sounds like they are playing all major chords.

How are you guys doing it?

[Tom C]

Little b are flats

Intro:
C Am7 Ab7 G7 C C#dim Dm7 G7

A Part
C C#dim Dm7 G7 C C#dim Dm7 G7
[1st time only] [2nd time only]
Bb7 A7 Ab7 G7 [C Am7 Ab7 G7] [C B7]


B part:
E Fdim F#m7 B7 E Fdim F#m7 B7 E Fdim F#m7 B7
Em7 A7 C C#dim Dm7 G7 Em7 Ebm7 Dm7 G7

[Seth Rosen]

I play it pretty much on the chart that John Soper linked to as a I vi ii V tune (except for the section that's a I VI ii V, I usually play a II7 there instead of the ii7)...the bridge can also be played I vi ii V in the key of E.

There is both a musical and 'folk process' relationship between the I vi ii V and the I I#dim ii V that Tom C uses. #See the "Rhythm changes" Swing Mandolin Lesson #2 on the lessons section of this site for an explanation of it. #But I've not usually heard people use the I#dim substitution in Swing 42...I can imagine a Idim might be cool.

250cc, the chords do have a major feel, the Am7 is an inversion (notes in a different order) of a C6 as the Dm7 is of an F6 chord.

[John Soper]

Seth:

I agree with the subst in the B part using the I-vi-ii-V in the key of E: #E6 - C#min7 (enharmonically E6)- F#min7(b5) - B7

The A parts are basically variations of the Rhythm changes in C; when playing with others, you just have to make sure that everyone is using the same changes, or it can sound like chaos! #Your exploration of Rhythm changes on this site is required reading for anyone who wants to learn about jazz progressions.

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John

"Lightnin' change when Lightnin' change..." #Blues progressions according to Lightning Hopkins

[Pete Martin]

Often the chord on the 7th beat of the A part is either Bbm6 or Gm7b5 (same chord, different root name).

[250sc]

Since there are so many heavy hitters chiming in here I was wondering if any of you would share some of the voicings that you might use with this song.

As I stated earlier I thought the iv and ii sounded major (Tone Poems version) so I voiced the A part like this. (2 chords per measure)

253x # 657x #| # 535x #435x #| #253x #657x #| #546x #435x #|

768x # 657x #| # 546x #435x #| #253x #6545 #| #545x #4323 #|

[Tom C]

I really do not have ideas but I'm learning. I took those chords from the Tone Poems book.

[250sc]

Thanks Tom. How are you voicing the chords?

[Seth Rosen]

250cc try these #

C # # # Am7 # # # Dm7 # #G7 # # # C # # Am7 # # #Dm7 # #G7
523x # 557x #|#535x #435x #| #523x #557x #| #535x #435x #|

C7 # # A7 # # # # D7 # #G7 # # ## #C # # #Am7 # # Dm7 # #G7
323x # 657x #| 545x #435x #|#253x #2233 #| #535x #435x #|

(Sorry I can't seem to get them to line up straight)

--seth

[250sc]

Thanks Seth, I'll try them as soon as I get home from work.

[250sc]

Seth,
I tried the voicings and see how they work.

The melody of this lays really nicely under my fingers on mandolin. (Not so on guitar) After playing the melody I try to stretch out a little and solo. When I solo over this song I tend to fall back on the c major pentatonic, adding blues notes that work with whatever chords are happening at the time, or coming up next. Can anyone suggest some other ways to approach this?

Thanks in advance.