Woody Guthrie, mandolin player, b. July 14, 1912

[BradKlein]

I'm sending a birthday shout-out to American troubadour, political agitator, restless spirit, and mandolin picker, Woodrow Wilson Guthrie.

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This rare photo of Woody playing mandolin with Ralph Rinzler, the great scholar and promoter of American music, comes from the blog of Mike Murphy (http://bigmikeydread.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/woody-guthrie-and-ralph-rinzler/). He says that it's probably Rinzler's mandolin, and that he was visiting Woody in the hospital where he lived once the symptoms of Huntington's disease became too much to handle outside.

And I'll add this link to the story that I produced for NPR's All Things Considered (http://www.npr.org/2012/07/11/156571771/at-100-years-old-cultivating-woody-guthries-legacy?sc=fb&cc=fmp) in case any of my friends at the Cafe missed it last night.

[BradKlein]

Here's the only other photo I came across of Woody playing mandolin. He's with Pete and Butch Hawes of the Almanac Singers. The photo is part of the magnificent new book published by Smithsonian/Folkways, Woody at 100 (http://www.woodyguthrie.org/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TWGS&Product_Code=WG100&Category_Code=NRS). It's not cheap, but it is a joy to behold. An LP-sized book, packed with Woody's artwork, and containing 3 CDs of his music.

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[Ivyguitar]

Strad-o-lin... Oh Yeah

[JLewis]

This seems to be the only mandolin tune Woody ever wrote. Strikes me as the kind of riff a guitarist might come up with having a little fun with a friend's mandolin. It is fun.

Woody's Rag with Ramblin' Jack Elliott, Pete Seeger, & Malvina Reynolds

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9StxKDFjLY

[Mo Soar]

In the process of reading Woodie Guthrie: A Life by Joe Klein. Very interesting, but a difficult read through his childhood.

[swampstomper]

Klein... Klein... coincidence?? Anyway, thanks for doing the interesting NPR piece and honouring Woody here. Woody's Rag is the easiest tune in the Tottle book, and Pete Seeger put it in one of his song books.

I once made a pilgrammage to Woody's house on Mermaid Ave. in Coney Island, the one where one of his daughters accidentally got severe burns and died from them. He was sure a strange guy with different brain chemistry -- we need to keep some of those around to keep the rest of us straight. His Columbia River songs are just so good! and then his angry rejection of pie-in-the-sky religion in favour of in-this-world activism "I Ain't Got a Home in this World Anymore".

[Mo Soar]

The Sisters Folk Festival (http://www.sistersfolkfestival.org/index.php) in early September will have the "Walking Woody's Road" tribute as part of it. Pretty sure this will be at other venues as well.

[Michael Eck]

Great piece, Brad.

I'll be doing a solo tribute to Woody this Saturday night at Caffe Lena in Saratoga Springs, called "Bound for Glory: 100 years of Woody Guthrie." It's mostly guitar, but I will be doing "Woody's Rag" and "Hard Travelin" on mando.

www.caffelena.com

[BradKlein]

- No relation to Joe Klein - I only wish I had his writing chops! His biography of Guthrie has stayed in print over 30 years, and for good reason.

- 'Break a string', Michael! There are literally hundreds of Guthrie tributes around the country, from big 'n fancy to local and spontaneous. Have to think that Woody would be deeply honored.

- I hadn't thought of Woody's Rag for many years, thanks JL. I think I learned it off a Robin Flower LP, back in the day! One of the first tunes I ever learned, and it never crossed my mind while I was immersed in Guthrie!

[Ed Goist]

Congratulations Brad! Nice piece.
Also, NPR's Fresh Air devoted most of today's episode to Woody Guthrie. Here's the link:
Fresh Air Celebrates Woody Guthrie At 100 (http://www.npr.org/2012/07/12/156621469/fresh-air-celebrates-woody-guthrie-at-100)

[Mandophyte]

For UK types there's an Arena programme about Woody on BBC Four tonight (Friday 13 July 2012) it starts at 23:30.

[Beanzy]

ooo just noticed it's available on iPlayer in the UK already!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hbj01/Arena_Woody_Guthrie/

[journeybear]

In honor of Woody Guthrie's centenary, I thought I would share this story. I hope this is within the bounds of decorum, and doesn't stray too far afield. I never had the good fortune to meet the man, one of my all-time heroes, but I have had the pleasure of spending some time with some of his cohorts, most notably Ramblin' Jack Elliott. This is kind of a long and winding road, which befits the star of the show, and as anyone who has met him can attest, the sobriquet "Ramblin'" was apt in more than one way.

Back in the 1990s, I was living in CT and playing in a jug band - not full-time, but pretty often. Somehow the band leader learned that Eric Von Schmidt lived in the next county, was still playing out occasionally, and was in the phone book. Being a longtime devotee of the blues and jug band music, as well as a friend of all those Kweskin folks (and many others), he was glad to come out of semi-retirement and do a bunch of gigs with us. We had a lot of good times doing this, and he repaid us for the interest with a standing invitation to visit him anytime. He hosted enormous music parties at his house and sprawling grounds a few times a year, New Year's Eve for sure, and other random times. He had an incredible number and variety of friends in the business, by virtue of being in it for so long - his little black book was a virtual who's who of folk and blues musicians - and some pretty amazing people would show up.

One time, I think it was a New Year's Eve (I'm only guessing, because of extenuating circumstances), Jack was among the revelers. Late at night, those of us still there gathered in the living room, picking, grinning (for various reasons), and carrying on. Jack's daughter was in the process of filming him, gathering footage for an upcoming documentary. She kept prodding him to tell stories rather than just play. As a result, people kept dropping out of the jam to listen. He was perhaps a bit more shy than you might think, and she had to keep nudging him, suggesting particular stories she wanted to get on film. At some point, a bit of smoke circulated among the participants. I had not indulged in years, but had been considering resuming for a little while, and this seemed an opportune moment. I mean, when Ramblin' Jack Elliott is holding court and passes you a joint, you go for it. Being rather unused to the sensation, it had quite an effect on me, and also played havoc with my perspective - but not, as far as I know, my playing. In fact, I recall being very into playing, and paid a lot of attention to being as fine an accompanist as I could be. I really worked the dynamics, used every trick in my bag of tricks, but stayed sensitive to what he was doing, maintaining a supporting role.

What I did not notice right away, as I was so into what I was playing and fitting it to what Jack was doing, was that after a while everyone else had dropped out. I began feeling a bit sheepish, and slacked off on playing, but Jack encouraged me - and again, if Ramblin' Jack Elliott is holding court and likes what you're doing, you keep doing it. This went on for probably over an hour, with his daughter filming a lot of it. I came to feel pretty good about my abilities, and thought I did a pretty darn good job. I also thought it would be really cool if some of this made it into the film. She did get my name and number for credit and clearance purposes. When the movie came out, a few of us went into New York to see it, and ... well, none of this got used. Oh well! It might have had something to do with me being pretty much of a nobody; it might have been his part in the proceedings had been a bit too rambling to make the cut. I'll never know - though I did ask her about this some time later, but she could not recall any of this at all. Perhaps she too had indulged in the aforementioned, causing some sort of slippage in the quality of her camera work. In any event, I'll always have the memory, at least what has survived.

[Patrick Melly]

A nice photo of Woody Guthrie playing mandolin ran in the Sunday New York Times (6/21/15), with the article "Pete Seeger's New York Roots".

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NYT caption & photo credit: "Pete Seeger, second from left above, plays with Woody Guthrie, left, at 129 Macdougal Street in 1943. Credit Courtesy of the Seeger Family"

[Jeff Mando]

Woodrow Wilson Guthrie.

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You sure that ain't Lyle Lovett? Or maybe Charlie Chaplin?

[journeybear]

Since today is Woody Guthrie's birthday (as well as Bastille Day and National Hot Dog Day - there's a Coney Island connection ;) ), there was some mention of this on the interweb, specifically facebook. Of course, I recalled a couple of photos of him playing a mandolin, so naturally I wanted to post them. And wouldn't you know, all three - and only these three, nothing more - that I turned up in my google image search led me to this thread! :)) Oh, the Mandolin Cafe is a resource like no other! :mandosmiley:

I did read a lengthy post from Arlo, detailing some of his touring experiences in eastern Canada and New England. This bit is a gem:

The sweet thing was walking into the JAG hotel [St. John's, Newfoundland] and seeing a painting of my dad on the wall of the lobby. A version of that same portrait hung in our home when I was a kid growing up. It felt like home.

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[Fretbear]

A nice photo of Woody Guthrie playing mandolin ran in the Sunday New York Times (6/21/15), with the article "Pete Seeger's New York Roots".

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NYT caption & photo credit: "Pete Seeger, second from left above, plays with Woody Guthrie, left, at 129 Macdougal Street in 1943. Credit Courtesy of the Seeger Family"

I would have sworn that was Pete's brother Mike.......

[CarlM]

It is another of those strange coincidences that Clarence White died on Woody's birthday.

[mandolinstew]

Donald Trumps father was Woody's landlord.He wrote a song about him.I can't remember the title,something like " Mean old Mr Trump " I still think of Clarence at the end of a gig while loading equipment.

[JH Murray]

Here's a take on "Old Man Trump". (This post is not meant to be taken as a comment on current politics, but simply a tribute to Woody Guthrie as a song writer.)
https://youtu.be/kVoo8bJ8Sks

[journeybear]

Just because it's Woody Guthrie's birthday (Happy 105th Birthday, Woodrow Wilson Guthrie! :mandosmiley: ) I thought I'd post all three known photos of him playing mandolin in one spot. Still hoping some more show up ...

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I celebrated today, getting my America The Beautiful lifetime senior pass (https://www.nps.gov/planyourvisit/passes.htm#CP_JUMP_5088578) to the National Parks for only $10 (goes up to $80 August 1st.) This land was made for you and me! :mandosmiley:

[Pete Braccio]

Happy Birthday, Woody.

Wish I understood "This Land is Your Land" when you were still alive and that you were still with us writing more words.

[William Smith]

Happy Birthday, Woody.

Wish I understood "This Land is Your Land" when you were still alive and that you were still with us writing more words.

I agree and lets not forget Clarence-I was going to start a thread but I seem not to find the sweet spot! Love ya Clarence White RIP:cool: Yeh what is it with the age of 27 with our favs dieing?

[journeybear]

I just saw this posted at The Vintage Gibson Mandolin group (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10161232418592908&set=gm.1735211766872693&idorvanity=432841173776432) on facebook. Says Arlo donated it to the Guthrie Museum. I'm not sure when it was donated, but it does seem to be since this thread was started. Funny how it doesn't appear in any of the three photos we've found of Woody playing mandolin. :confused: Interesting finish.

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[HonketyHank]

Not sure if it is still on the market, but the apartment house where Woody lived while here in Portland (Oregon) was up for sale a couple weeks ago. This according to the Oregonian. Apparently he was here while under contract to the Bonneville Power Authority to write songs promoting the region (e.g., Roll On Columbia). He also was allegedly glad to move on from here - didn't like Portlanders.

I have to say that I did ask myself what I thought it would be worth to own that house - and it turned out to be a LOT less than market for plain generic commercial or residential property.

[Jeff Mando]

Interesting stuff! Journeybear, the photo you posted in 2017 with Woody in the dark jacket he appears to be playing a mandolin with "comma" f-holes, possibly a Stradolin? Not sure. It does have the pickguard attached with two screws on the rim, as well as the painted-on binding stripe, as well as the comma f-holes. Unfortunately we cannot see the bridge or bridge position, the tailpiece, and the fretboard end -- those would be some neat clues.

Has anyone ever discussed Woody playing a Stradolin? The time frame seems possible...

[Mark Gunter]

I don’t have a different pic of Woody on mandolin, but I posted one of Woody playing the fiddle here: https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/threads/143558-Old-photos-a-hodgepodge-of-musicians-folkies?p=1718198&viewfull=1#post1718198

[fredzipp]

Thanks to all the contributors on this post! Quite enjoyable reading and viewing the great photos.

[Style 20]

I have Mike Seeger's Old-Time Country Mandolin instructional CD and book, on which he teaches a waltz in D - Cowboy Waltz - that he says he learned from Woody. Good stuff.

[Mark Gunter]

It's been awhile since I posted random images in the thread I linked to above ... too long, I think. I decided to rifle through some of my folk archive for mandolin sightings - in anticipation of posting mandolin-oriented photos in that thread - and I came up with a couple more Woody pics. In one he has a mandolin, in the other, a banjo-mandolin. I already had the others, these are the only five I have of Woody with a mandolin, though I'm sure there must be others.

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[Ben Vierra]

26 Songs in 30 Days by Greg Vandy and Daniel Person is a good read, and chronicles Guthrie's stint of songwriting for the Bonneville Power Administration.

[vonbiber]

Woody's Rag with Ramblin' Jack Elliott, Pete Seeger, & Malvina Reynolds

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https://youtu.be/Z9StxKDFjLY

[BradKlein]

How nice to see this thread revived.

In the decade since I produced the story in the first post, the Woody Guthrie Center has been established and is up and running in Tulsa, OK. And the archive that I walked through with Nora Guthrie has been long relocated there.

I haven't had a chance to visit, yet.

Love the Café!

[Mark Gunter]

I’d love to visit the center someday. A couple years ago, Nora gave Del McCoury a number of Woody’s unknown songs to put to music and the result was the Del & Woody album, now my favorite Del McCoury album. Del and the boys did an awesome job of making Woody’s songs their own, while retaining Woody’s voice in the lyrics.

[journeybear]

Well, I'll be! I hadn't heard about that until now. That's following in the footsteps of "Mermaid Avenue" and "Mermaid Avenue Vol. II" by Billy Bragg and Wilco. I'll bet Del et al do a fine job. Wonder how many more of thee projects will be produced. Would I ever like to get the chance to do one of these myself! Someday ...

[journeybear]

Holy wow! :disbelief: Look at all of these! I had no idea. Bless Nora Guthrie for getting this going, and all these people for making it happen. :mandosmiley:

Mermaid Avenue (1998) - Billy Bragg and Wilco
Man in the Sand (1999) - film of the "Mermaid Avenue" project
Mermaid Avenue Vol. II (2000) - Billy Bragg and Wilco
Woody Guthrie Singles (2003) - Blackfire (2-song EP)
Wonder Wheel (2006) - The Klezmatics
Woody Guthrie's Happy Joyous Hanukkah (2006) - The Klezmatics
The Works (2008) - Jonatha Brooke
New Multitudes (2012) - Jay Farrar, Will Johnson, Anders Parker, and Jim James
Mermaid Avenue: The Complete Sessions (2012) - Billy Bragg and Wilco (contains a third CD of outtakes, plus a DVD)

I guess the later albums didn't get as much press and publicity as the first one. Or I wasn't keeping an eye and ear out. Both are possible. ;)

[Mark Gunter]

Here ya go JB

https://youtu.be/UOAcpsEGCcQ

UOAcpsEGCcQ

Also
https://youtu.be/n0O6QcQTcLM
https://youtu.be/Zoat9ZhvzU0
https://youtu.be/vplLkhHcKH4
https://youtu.be/uUEB433FXEI

I got it on vinyl with digital download the day it came out, it’s one of my favorite records.