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oldwave maker
May-04-2008, 11:35am
final finish coat on Petes 13.5" wide 1 pc om back

JEStanek
May-04-2008, 1:38pm
Wow! That's an awesome back, figure and finish.

Jamie

markishandsome
May-04-2008, 7:18pm
slobber... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Pete Martin
May-04-2008, 10:43pm
slobber... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
I'm slobbering even more!

Steevarino
May-04-2008, 11:28pm
Bill B.,

I used to have a tractor that looked quite a bit like that. #An Allis Chalmers B Model, as I recall, but I might have the letter wrong...

Steve

www.CumberlandAcoustic.com
www.RedLineResophonics.com

oldwave maker
May-05-2008, 9:42am
Steve- you had a curly maple veneered ACB tractor? awesome! Might have to try that with my AC300lp. Mesquite flooring and veneer supplier David Perino coated his refrigerator with titebond, let it dry to the touch, and then used a hot iron to stick 1/28" mesquite to it, what a kitchen appliance- suggested for $2.50 a sq ft I could do my toyota pu.....
Pete- 28 days!
Gary- were those points bison or water buffalo? bought some lmi wb horn nuts that were too soft for mandonuts, would have made great points tho.....

mandopete
May-05-2008, 10:53am
Pete- 28 days!
I can hardly wait!

buddyellis
May-06-2008, 7:55pm
Working on stain, darker on the edge? Whatcha think?

buddyellis
May-06-2008, 7:56pm
Front:

Stephanie Reiser
May-06-2008, 8:01pm
Working on stain, darker on the edge? #Whatcha think?
Darker around the perimeter for sure.
Looks great! Love that curly maple back!

buddyellis
May-06-2008, 8:20pm
Thanks, I've used a mix of hand rubbed and a blending of the airbrush to even out the edges, but I think I'm almost happy with the transition on this one. Lesson learned and applied from previous builds: if you don't want stain there, don't ever touch it with the rag, even if you don't have 'much' stain on it. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lesson learned on this build: when you cut out the back, remember the button.

markishandsome
May-06-2008, 10:19pm
I like it the way it is.

Eric Hanson
May-06-2008, 10:44pm
Don't know about the rest of you. I LOVE to see as much of the wood grain as possible. The wood used for mandos is some of the best to be found. IMO why cover it up just because that is the tradition.
OUCH!! OK, OK, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to come across so opinionated. Man I must get to bed soon.:p

Eric

labraid
May-07-2008, 11:12pm
should I bring it to life?

http://labraid.ca/ip/55ip6.jpg

Eric Hanson
May-07-2008, 11:15pm
That is a beautiful pattern! I say go for it.

Eric

JEStanek
May-08-2008, 7:17am
Fantastic.

Jamie

otterly2k
May-08-2008, 12:14pm
hey! where'd it go?

labraid
May-08-2008, 12:28pm
oops, updating a site can be dangerous ;) one sec...

labraid
May-08-2008, 12:33pm
's better. It's hard doing these because I'm always fleeing the "Gothic" tendencies the younger folks have so popularized. Trying to keep away from vampire aesthetics, while capturing some of the glory days of stone architecture.. Harder than one might think, to balance. This was a test drawing. I'm really just torturing the ghost of Mike while he's away without email or phone.

billhay4
May-08-2008, 12:49pm
Looks like a very interesting hammer beam roof mirrored on a pond.
Bill

labraid
May-08-2008, 2:58pm
That's a cool thought, I like that

otterly2k
May-08-2008, 3:18pm
wow

looks like gothic windows to me

stunning

Ken Olmstead
May-08-2008, 4:13pm
All I see is a really cool looking snowflake!! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Kent Barnes
May-09-2008, 10:36am
Moving right along on Harlan # 6. #This one is for my cousin.

http://www.kentium.net/mandolin/mandolincafe/harlan6/top%20and%20rim%20outside.jpg http://www.kentium.net/mandolin/mandolincafe/harlan6/top%20and%20rim%20inside.JPG

Stanley Cox
May-10-2008, 5:13pm
Looking good Kent, Is that a new shop floor? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Stanley

bradeinhorn
May-11-2008, 10:26pm
here's a new voight a-5 in the making.

bradeinhorn
May-11-2008, 10:28pm
and

bradeinhorn
May-11-2008, 10:29pm
and

bradeinhorn
May-11-2008, 10:30pm
and

Hans
May-13-2008, 10:44am
Spring planting...

Timbofood
May-13-2008, 11:48am
Nice Crop!

Dan Voight
May-13-2008, 7:02pm
Bravo Johann!

markishandsome
May-13-2008, 7:19pm
Can't wait to see the harvest!

Andy Nichols
May-13-2008, 9:15pm
Here is my latest project. #This is my third ADAL manolin still under construction.
Andy

Andy Nichols
May-13-2008, 9:21pm
here is the peg head, body, and scroll after stain

Andy Nichols
May-13-2008, 9:24pm
scroll

buddyellis
May-13-2008, 9:47pm
Lots of scraping, lots of cleanup, lots of FPing to do, at this point but, here goes. First couple coats of spirit varnish on, final leveling and etc, to be done. Maybe a hit or two more around the edges to level out, but, will see. This is with a bit of garnet shellac with a few other things tossed in (benzoin, mastic, etc) Other than the yellow 'smokers fingers' from working with it, really my favorite finish so far. Lacquer is 'easier' but this is a much friendlier finish to work with, even if it is a bit more work.

buddyellis
May-13-2008, 9:49pm
Pictures are a bit too red, its really more gradual in person, and the back looks much better than this in person. I need to work on my photog, but oh well. Don't see much of these 'ugly stage' photos with the tape and the scraping not done.
Back:

Mark Walker
May-14-2008, 8:12am
You folks building mandolins just amaze me. #I just remodeled two rooms in my 110-year old farmhouse, and struggled with all new baseboards, crown and cove moldings. (Cutting AND staining. Coping saws and cope cuts in crown molding are a PAIN!) #

Everyone who've been in the remodeled rooms rave about it, but I'm nowhere NEAR the point of tackling a mandolin - let alone the staining and finishing! #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Hans - I'm GOING to drive to the next-door state and visit you this year! #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Golman8
May-14-2008, 12:52pm
Hey adal04 I see you learned how to post a picture , That adal#3 is looking good! Maybe the third time will be the charm for you. I was impressed with @s one and two! Keep on picking, your friend golman8

Hans
May-15-2008, 12:02pm
Mark, you're going to have to drive thru that next door state. Welcome anytime.

Austin Clark
May-16-2008, 11:13pm
mmm, purty backs.....

Left to right, mine, mine, Joe's, Ted's, Andre's and again, mine.
Well, mine for the summer anyway...
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bradeinhorn
May-17-2008, 12:20am
yum.

first string
May-19-2008, 8:54am
Drool.

Joe F
May-19-2008, 10:01am
My fingers are itching with anticipation!

Stephanie Reiser
May-21-2008, 11:13am
An F-4 in the binding process.

JEStanek
May-21-2008, 11:38am
Looking sweet Amanda! Blohm buttons?

Jamie

Stephanie Reiser
May-21-2008, 12:25pm
Looking sweet Amanda! Blohm buttons?

Jamie
Yes http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/coffee.gif

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:22pm
polishing another White Dove

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:25pm
cont.

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:26pm
cont.

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:28pm
still polishing!!

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:31pm
Rounding out a dozen
I decided to make number 12 a custom oval...
here it is with one coat of lacquer

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:32pm
cont.

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:36pm
and again..

bropete
May-24-2008, 11:38pm
one more...

Playing8
May-26-2008, 7:53am
Real Perty Brother Pete! Hope to see you soon, If I can get a lone for Gas Money. HA

oldwave maker
May-26-2008, 10:25pm
Stained and shellac sealed, no adult supervision in sight:

Dan Voight
May-26-2008, 10:53pm
Hey Bill, does that second mando have rosewood back and sides?

labraid
May-27-2008, 8:13am
Pete, extremely classy indeed... The non-cursive text adds a bit of astuteness, and well, I dunno, it's a very, very nice choice. Soundhole treatment is a-1 too.. bravo!

Bill. Hey, it's walnut, hurrah!

Well, I'm getting accustomed to these quartered spruce reinforcing strips. And I don't know a luthier who wouldn't love to just make them all day, that beautiful "schhhhhhck" of the plane as it slices off another curl. Here they are wetted, to be put aside near the fire to dry (still cold up here mornings, come on sun!).

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:04pm
Here are some photos of what's going on with Jade mandolins in China. Here is one of some maple, walnut and cherry bodies. The walnut and cherry bodies will have maple binding.

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:06pm
Here is one of the walnut bodies that happens to be an oval hole.

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:07pm
Here is another of the walnut body.

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:09pm
Here is a black topped A that is on its way to Missouri,

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:10pm
Here is the back of that black topped A.

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:16pm
I have started doing some of the finishing here at my home. The black topped A and this sunburst F are some of the first. Everything has a varnish finish.

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:18pm
This is the back of the F pictured above.

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:22pm
OK, a couple more photos and thanks for indulging me in this long string of photos. Here is the violin varnish on an F. This is the finish that "brought Jade mandolins to the dance" and I am keeping it going. The great news is that the finisher who does these has vastly improved. There was a big learning curve for him going from violins to F style mandolins and he is getting it right now.

Bob McRee
May-27-2008, 12:23pm
Here is the back of the violin varnished F.

BiscoMando
May-27-2008, 12:39pm
i love that violin finish! very classy.

bropete
May-28-2008, 4:16pm
labraid, Thank you for your kind words. The F-style dove has taken flight to north Georgia, and I polished and strung the A-Oval yesterday. I used an experimental bracing pattern and I am glad to be able to say, "she really sings". (you always run a risk with unproven means). The dark finish and final polish really brought out the MOP around the soundhole. Thanks again, Pete

oldwave maker
May-29-2008, 10:40am
screen capture from my recent audition for "America's Most Disturbing Home Videos"

Dan Voight
May-29-2008, 1:24pm
Haha very nice bill.

labraid
May-29-2008, 7:51pm
who's the leprechaun with the ipod glaring at us in the orb of night?

crazymandolinist
May-30-2008, 8:30pm
I love that pic!

JEStanek
May-30-2008, 8:49pm
Reminds me of a cross between Alex DeLarge and David Jones (http://cdbaby.com/cd/djones). Great photo.

Jamie

mandomick
May-30-2008, 9:16pm
Stained and shellac sealed, #no adult supervision in sight:
JMO, Old Waves have the "cleanest lines" in their "F" hole design.

Jim Hilburn
Jun-02-2008, 1:02pm
How to tell if your pattern carver is set up well.
This top started with penciled crosshairs all the way down the centerline and across at the bridge location. After carving it looks like this.
I make all the early passes in straight lines parallel to the centerline and only do the side to side on the final pass to remove as much material as possible.

Dan Voight
Jun-02-2008, 10:57pm
nice jim. I didn't know you used one of those. Seems like a nice investment...

Jim Hilburn
Jun-03-2008, 12:57pm
Here's some fingerboard binding going on. You can't really see the fingerboard but the cam clamps are holding it flat to the table, the quick clamps are holding the boards I use for pressure square to the table and those cool black British clamps are applying the pressure.

markishandsome
Jun-03-2008, 1:37pm
Those British clams do look pretty cool. Details?

Troy Harris
Jun-04-2008, 5:28pm
Nice work Jim…
Carving the top is one of my favorite steps in the building process. I like to cut for the binding around the center of the scroll while I have a level working surface.

Troy Harris
Jun-04-2008, 5:29pm
Detail of the scroll… begins to take shape.

Troy Harris
Jun-04-2008, 5:31pm
Here I’m scraping the final arching.

wannabethile
Jun-04-2008, 6:04pm
that is just beautiful!!!

buddyellis
Jun-04-2008, 7:30pm
Got impatient, and strung it up. Still some finish work to do but before I finished the neck I wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong neck angle wise. After a week of playing time this thing is really starting to surprise me. Plenty of mid-cut with solid but not overwhelming bottom end.

buddyellis
Jun-04-2008, 7:32pm
Front. All spirit varnish, although I'll probably end with a couple thin coats of lacquer just to toughen it a bit.

McCandolin
Jun-04-2008, 9:59pm
And a top for the same.
Hey, whats the story with the location of the blade in that finger plane? Why so far back?

This is the internet, my curiosity need not go unfulfilled.

Stephanie Reiser
Jun-08-2008, 5:02pm
A couple of pics of an F-4 I'm building in my spare time.

Stephanie Reiser
Jun-08-2008, 5:04pm
Only just started binding the headstock today, so wont show that side till the inlays are finished. This F-4 will be from the 1911 - 1917 period.

Steve Cantrell
Jun-08-2008, 7:11pm
Nice work, Stephanie. That rosette looks sharp.

Dan Voight
Jun-08-2008, 7:13pm
Nice F4. Here are some shots of #5. I really like red maple for sides.

Dan Voight
Jun-08-2008, 7:15pm
another

Dan Voight
Jun-08-2008, 7:16pm
The inside

elvisNoir
Jun-08-2008, 7:49pm
Nice F4. Here are some shots of #5. I really like red maple for sides.
VERY nice f-hole design. As the kids say...Sweeeet!

Keep up the great work.

Chip Booth
Jun-08-2008, 9:42pm
Elvis, I was thinking the same thing. Nice F holes!

Chip

oldwave maker
Jun-09-2008, 12:20pm
Great f holes, should lower the resonant frequency of the box.

amowry
Jun-09-2008, 10:26pm
And a top for the same.
Hey, whats the story with the location of the blade in that finger plane? Why so far back?

This is the internet, my curiosity need not go unfulfilled.
I just noticed your question-- the edge of the blade is roughly centered on the sole of the plane. It's just the angle of the blade puts the tail end so far back. That blade is from a circa 1960 Bombardier snowmobile leaf spring. A last remnant from my childhood!

Nice looking work, everyone!

amowry
Jun-09-2008, 10:28pm
Hey Jim, have you tried thin CA for gluing fretboard binding? I find I can just hold a section in place with my fingers, and wick in a drop of CA, then move to the next section-- no clamping or tape required, and it's done in a few minutes.

Dan Voight
Jun-09-2008, 11:11pm
Great f holes, should lower the resonant frequency of the box.
Thanks. After doing some reading here (http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/Helmholtz.html) and calculating the internal volume of my mandolins, I developed my opinion in that a lot of F hole mandolins with Gibson stle apertures had f holes that covered too much surface area for their given cubic volume. I designed a crossbreed of traditional violin and Gibson stle F holes and reduced their surface area to coincide with the cubic volume of my instruments. I am pleased with the tone I am getting with them. The pictures show them right after routing and I have yet to open them up with files. I cut them small to leave room for adjusting.

mandopete
Jun-10-2008, 9:31am
"Thanks. After doing some reading here and calculating the internal volume of my mandolins."

like this....

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Dan Voight
Jun-10-2008, 9:25pm
"Thanks. After doing some reading here and calculating the internal volume of my mandolins."

like this....

http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Actually, I just filled it with rice. I used the equation on the site for the opotimun aperture size given my volume via rice.

pelone
Jun-11-2008, 11:50pm
Now I know where some of my error may have occured. I used rice crispies, perhaps their lighter density lead me to believe that my calculations were correct.

Christopher Standridge
Jun-12-2008, 10:39am
Rice, crispies, don't you know any scientist worth his salt uses mustard seed???
Jim, that top looks very nice. #I also do all vertical passes before I do the side to side passes. #Troy that top is very clean and I agree it is very easy to establish the binding channel at this point.

Christopher Standridge
Jun-12-2008, 10:46am
Here is the source of my most recent frustrations...I am glad that I bought enough of this to be able to practice, you don't even want to know how much this cost me. I could have gotten a lot of nice maple...

Christopher Standridge
Jun-12-2008, 10:48am
two engelman tops, one red, backs of birch, maple, and koa!

Troy Harris
Jun-12-2008, 8:37pm
Koa is beautiful wood…
I’m working on a batch of F5’s… here are some photos of the next top in progress.

Troy Harris
Jun-12-2008, 8:38pm
Routing for binding around the center of the scroll…

Troy Harris
Jun-12-2008, 8:39pm
I use a small palm plane then finger plane with a toothed iron to do the rough arching before moving to scrapers.

amowry
Jun-12-2008, 10:33pm
Nice photos! So, do you guys do the binding channel for both the top and back before gluing them on, and then cut the scroll opening in the headblock to match? Or is the headblock completely cut beforehand? That looks like a real timesaver not having to deal with the binding channel once the plates are on the instrument.

Christopher Standridge
Jun-12-2008, 10:43pm
Andrew,
I don't think I should be giving you any time saving tips, but this really works better for me. I prep the channel on both plates and then trace to the block, then cut the block, sand smooth, and glue plates to the block with registration pins.

amowry
Jun-12-2008, 10:59pm
Cool, thanks Chris! That's good food for thought. I love the fact that everyone does things a little differently. Keeps it interesting.

oldwave maker
Jun-13-2008, 11:34am
Another month or so before its ready for picking, and already a melonius thonk!

JEStanek
Jun-13-2008, 11:43am
Bill,

How many watermandos have you made now. Their whimsy is great.

Jamie

charlesa46741
Jun-15-2008, 10:57am
This is a Siminoff F4 kit in the white. I'm still trying to decide on a brown or red sunburst.

Troy Harris
Jun-19-2008, 10:19pm
Andrew, here is my current working method…
First I trace/draw the blocks, linings, and body/scroll outline onto the top…

Troy Harris
Jun-19-2008, 10:21pm
Then I cut out the body outline and begin rough carving the plate. I route for the binding (only around the center of the scroll) when I have a level working surface and before I carve the scroll. The left side scroll is cut for side binding; the right side scroll is cut for triple top binding.

Troy Harris
Jun-19-2008, 10:24pm
Next I trace/draw the scroll shape onto the block and cut out the block. I repeat the steps with the back, making sure everything lines up. I do all the tracing while the ribs are in a mould. I carve both the top and back before gluing them onto the ribs. I route for the body binding after both plates are glued to the ribs.
My understanding is that the early Gibson scrolls were cut out after both the tops & backs were glued to the ribs. I’ve thought about trying that method…
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amowry
Jun-20-2008, 10:46am
Thanks for taking the time to explain that, Troy. I guess it's similar to what I currently do, except I cut the opening in the headblock and then trace that on the top and back. I like your way better, though, because it seems you have better control over the shape of the scroll when you draw it directly on the top and back.

I've seen photos of several builders cutting the scroll opening after assembling the box. I guess you need some way to hold it level on the bandsaw. It makes sense to me, because you'd have less sanding to do inside the scroll.

Geoff B
Jun-23-2008, 2:32am
brilliant work with the pre-binding, I like that a lot! Also, as usual, the caliber of this little corner of the internet is quite startling! good work all. here is my humble contribution.

I just posted a youtube video of my latest (#19). It is in the white and coming along well for being strung up for only a day. I'm not sure if the video compression also messes up the sound, but I thought it would be worth sharing. I realized after playing a bit that I didn't level the frets, so there are a couple buzzies in there. This is an engleman topped, big leaf back F style and my nineteenth effort. I'm a happy camper. Dedicated thread is to come... check it out: somewhere over the rainbow (http://youtube.com/watch?v=CsRr7Snx0Zg)

by-the-way, I got this tab from mandozine.com
Whoo hoo! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif

Stephanie Reiser
Jun-23-2008, 5:19am
Nice job, Geoff

french guy
Jun-23-2008, 7:41am
#15 in the white :

Brandon Flynn
Jun-23-2008, 7:46am
#15 in the white :
Very clean. I like the headstock a lot.

amowry
Jun-23-2008, 12:18pm
Here's a royal coachman I did last week.

Hans
Jun-23-2008, 12:20pm
Now cut that out!! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

amowry
Jun-23-2008, 12:26pm
But, like, I already did!

Geoff B
Jun-23-2008, 1:07pm
And on the back of the headstock, where precious few will see! Nice!

JEStanek
Jun-23-2008, 1:58pm
Andrew, that's bloody micro-surgery! Do you use a dental pick to clear the inlay cavity? Not to mention cutting the individual pieces out. Amazing.

Jamie

french guy
Jun-23-2008, 2:22pm
Andrew , what a work !! I like that .
By the way , if you love beautiful inlay , you MUST have a look to a friend website , he make old time banjos , but his inlaying work is really fantastic look here :
http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Erevephil/mybanjos/mybanjos.htm

french guy
Jun-23-2008, 2:30pm
just an exemple

amowry
Jun-23-2008, 2:35pm
Thanks Jean-- I was just looking at his site, and it's amazing stuff. The engraving is mind-boggling.

Chris Biorkman
Jun-23-2008, 10:12pm
Andrew, your attention to detail is amazing. Just keeps getting better and better. I always enjoy seeing pics of your work.

Geoff B
Jun-23-2008, 10:42pm
Andrew, your work really flies here! I mean, it is a catch. Which is, of course, to say that I think people are hooked. Sorry, I couldn't resist!http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blues.gif

Hans
Jun-24-2008, 5:34am
That mush be a western Coachman...looks to be about a #8 or #10. Wouldn't catch a thing here! # http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Skip Kelley
Jun-24-2008, 6:39am
We are certainly living in the age when the finest instruments are being built! There are so many gifted craftsman on the board. The work you guys post on here is absolutely perfect! Fine piece's of art!

amowry
Jun-24-2008, 8:36am
Hans, very true. The customer originally asked for a size 16, but that seemed a little small. I'm guessing it's around 12, but I didn't get out a hook to be sure.

Around here we tend to use Royal Wulfs instead-- they float long time!

Hans
Jun-25-2008, 4:27pm
Round here, the "credit card boys" (they all have new waders, vest, rod, reel, store bought flies, etc) are standing where they should be fishing, fishing where they should be standing and the wife is taking the video while they whip the water to death. They are the ones using Coachman flies.
You couldn't catch a trout on a #22. Trouts are way too wary around here for Coachmen... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Geoff B
Jun-28-2008, 10:20am
some nice figure on this one....

JEStanek
Jun-28-2008, 10:53am
I can't bear to look at that much quilt in the summertime! Too hotThat's gorgeous.

Jamie

amowry
Jun-30-2008, 3:58pm
Nice quilt!

Carving necks...

Joe Dodson
Jul-01-2008, 11:54pm
Around here we tend to use Royal Wulfs instead-- they float long time!

I'm the lucky customer on that one. Once again Andrew, thanks for the beautiful work.

That birdseye is looking great too!

Chris Biorkman
Jul-02-2008, 12:11am
Ooh, sweet birdseye!

Jim Hilburn
Jul-04-2008, 3:16pm
Getting a little work done on the 4th.
Starting on the routing for my name. Looks pretty strange at this point.

igowing
Jul-04-2008, 3:58pm
Alembic inspired 5 string electric I'm currently working on. This will be the second instrument I've built.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6267/countertopxm2.jpg

Stephanie Reiser
Jul-06-2008, 7:27pm
After a week more of sanding I will be reading for filling and staining, then varnishing.

Larry S Sherman
Jul-06-2008, 7:37pm
Alembic inspired 5 string electric I'm currently working on. #This will be the second instrument I've built.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6267/countertopxm2.jpg
Looks great, and I love the inspiration!

Hans
Jul-08-2008, 11:10am
Some necks...H5 mandola, 3 PML's, A4 snake, Eclipse V6.
Oval hybrid in the foreground.

Timbofood
Jul-08-2008, 11:52am
Gee, Andrew one might just say "There ain't no flies on you" but then again that would not be entirely correct, very cool!

labraid
Jul-08-2008, 6:13pm
dust

Glassweb
Jul-08-2008, 7:29pm
Hans... you're killin' me brother! I'm loving you're signature "flower urn"... that's classic!

Doug Hoople
Jul-08-2008, 8:06pm
Fan-fret 10-string mandolin A-style. First stringing. No frets yet. Sam Crossan, my father-in-law, is building this, loosely based on Mike Marshall's Smart, and taking into account Mike's feedback (mandolin body, straighter nut angle for easier first position playing).

Glassweb
Jul-08-2008, 8:51pm
Fan-fret 10-string mandolin A-style. First stringing. No frets yet. Sam Crossan, my father-in-law, is building this, loosely based on Mike Marshall's Smart, and taking into account Mike's feedback (mandolin body, straighter nut angle for easier first position playing).
easier playing position? damn, i'm gonna have to go to my chiropractor tomorrow just looking at that thing! attention all mandolinists... proceed at your own risk...

Doug Hoople
Jul-08-2008, 9:05pm
Fan-fret 10-string mandolin A-style. First stringing. No frets yet. Sam Crossan, my father-in-law, is building this, loosely based on Mike Marshall's Smart, and taking into account Mike's feedback (mandolin body, straighter nut angle for easier first position playing).
easier playing position? damn, i'm gonna have to go to my chiropractor tomorrow just looking at that thing! attention all mandolinists... proceed at your own risk...
If you look at the pictures of the Smart 10-string on this thread: Lawrence Smart 10-string (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=15;t=49716;hl=smart+and+man dola), you'll notice that the nut is even "worse" there.

Plenty of discussion on the same thread about playing with a fan-fret instrument. I've done it, and I'd agree with everyone else that it's not that bad.

In Sam's 10-string, he's essentially reversed the angles of the nut and the bridge, so the nut is more "normal" and the bridge is more radical. The frets are going on even as I'm writing this, so there will soon be a picture to show how the angles graduate up the fretboard.

The radical bridge angle is the big question mark. You can see that it calls for pretty out-of-skew f-holes (and the tone bars inside follow the line of the f-holes, not the neck line).

markishandsome
Jul-09-2008, 10:07am
Reminds me of those melting clock paintings - love it

Jim Hilburn
Jul-09-2008, 1:09pm
Doing frets today. Big ones.
I press them in and use the Stew Mac nipper to remove the section of tang that goes over the binding, ala Don McRostie. You have the whole length of wire to hold this way instead of trying to hold just the fret. Much easier to keep it upright and aligned. It cuts out just enough tang to do the next fret on the far side of the board without cutting again.
I glue them in with Titebond ala Bob Bennedetto.

By the way I got to meet Sam Crossen at the 2006 Symposium and that instrument doesn't suprise me at all. Great guy.

mandopete
Jul-09-2008, 3:04pm
Those do look like big frets, what's the measurement?

Jim Hilburn
Jul-09-2008, 3:57pm
They're Stew-Mac #147 frets which they used to call banjo wire. .08" wide compared to .053" for the smaller mandolin wire. I think they look wider in photo's than they appear in person.
Everyone who gets them loves them.

mandopete
Jul-09-2008, 5:06pm
Agreed, I have those on my Flatiron and will likely put 'em on the Collings when the time comes.

Jim - your work is flawless as always!

Jim Hilburn
Jul-16-2008, 12:52pm
Here's some tortoise binding going on. When I do ivoroid with top and side lines I can get it pre-laminated from Axiom but not the tortoise. Bill may be making it but I need to use up what I have anyway.
I pre-glue the blk/white strip to the bottom of the tortoise for the sidelines. Then I do the blk/white for the top separately. It's in place here and the tortoise is being added.

Jim Hilburn
Jul-16-2008, 4:11pm
This picture gives a little better view of what's happening.
At this point it needs that last bend and then cut to the final length, glued and taped on.

Dan Voight
Jul-24-2008, 6:57pm
Here is #5 in the white. I kept it simple on this one because I wanted to let the tone speak for the instrument.

Dan Voight
Jul-24-2008, 6:59pm
Magnets

Dan Voight
Jul-24-2008, 7:00pm
trc

Dan Voight
Jul-24-2008, 7:00pm
peghead

Steve Cantrell
Jul-24-2008, 7:55pm
I like those lines, Dan. Great work.

pjlama
Jul-24-2008, 8:11pm
Very nice, I like the font/logo, great movement.

Mark Walker
Jul-25-2008, 10:34am
Dan - looks great. #I gotta get over to that side of the mitten one of these days and meet you! (And check out your mandolins of course.) #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

ellisppi
Jul-25-2008, 2:17pm
the start of a new A-5 project, more pics with progress.

oldwave maker
Jul-25-2008, 2:43pm
Tom- glad to hear you're celebrating national rim week too!
Nice f holes Dan!

sgarrity
Jul-25-2008, 2:58pm
An Ellis A5.......I can barely contain myself!!! That is exciting news.

buddyellis
Jul-25-2008, 10:32pm
And a little something different from my shop.

buddyellis
Jul-25-2008, 10:34pm
A little dirty, but I just strung it up, and I'm loving how this one turned out.

buddyellis
Jul-25-2008, 10:35pm
Headstock, we've nicknamed this one 'cookie monster'

buddyellis
Jul-25-2008, 10:37pm
Top and side bound thanks to Bill James' celluloid, this was a breeze compared to previous attempts.

Chris Biorkman
Jul-25-2008, 10:38pm
the start of a new A-5 project, more pics with progress.
Can't wait to see the results. I'm sure it will be spectacular as usual.

labraid
Jul-26-2008, 1:16am
Interesting variation, Buddy. The scroll tip matches the angle of the area just below the scroll, giving it a "rolling", live feel. And the accentuated top point which also matches that same angle. Very cheeky of you, and very bold looking.

Here's one I've got cooking on the side. I thought she'd look good as a white mandolin, but having second thoughts now..

OzMando
Jul-26-2008, 2:55am
Love the pickguard shape and colour, very nice. If not white what sort of stain?

labraid
Jul-26-2008, 10:47am
Hmmm... you got me..

Deep candied red wine perhaps?

buddyellis
Jul-26-2008, 9:55pm
Brian, thanks for the vote of confidence, we thought it looked like cookie monster had taken a couple of chomps out of the headstock #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #I've got an idea of reworking it a bit to be more 'flowing' with the same sort of shape, but more directly mirroring of the lower point on the body.

As for the color, yea there was an oldwave that was a merlot color. #That would be fabulous, especially with the edge treatment you do. #That wood has some GREAT silking. #What is that on the right side, the streak, just a wood oddity? #Love that grain. #Wine top, beer (blonde) back?

P.S. PM me with info on your tailpieces, cost, etc and what it would cost to do a design (you were the one that was working with casting, right?)

MLT
Jul-26-2008, 10:07pm
Brian,

Very nice indeed!

Although I have never been one for pick guards, I like this one. Even at this stage I can see that it adds something to the overall design.

labraid
Jul-28-2008, 8:35am
I can't believe Collings nabbed my soundhole rosette idea, ha! Just saw this:

http://www.mandolincafe.com/news/uploads/oval-large-3.jpg

Kidding, it's more an odd coincidence... Funny too, the number of A's being made these days eh...

Buddy, re: tailpiece castings I'd be happy to help you out. I have a standard back with Gibson holes that I can weld onto your own waxes meaning you'd only need to design a top (unless you want to do both, but they'll need to be designed separately for wax repro purposes).. Send me your address and I'll send you a chunk of carving wax you can work with. Forty piastres gets you a rough casting.

MLT, I'm not used to such wide expanses of mando face any longer, especially after dabbling with classicals.. And the cytole is only 9" wide.. The full size A-model was just looking naked without the guard.. I liked this shape and went for it. Another one-off......

ellisppi
Jul-30-2008, 4:06pm
Here is the top carved and ready to glue on

Austin Clark
Jul-31-2008, 8:41am
I thought this was a kind of a neat view....

JEStanek
Jul-31-2008, 9:02am
You're right!

Jamie

pjlama
Jul-31-2008, 9:15am
Tom, you're doing an A? Very cool.

Skip Kelley
Jul-31-2008, 10:24am
Austin, That is a neat view! Exceptionally clean work! Nice job!!

Dan Voight
Jul-31-2008, 1:22pm
doing some varnish on #5

Dan Voight
Jul-31-2008, 1:25pm
and the front

bradeinhorn
Jul-31-2008, 1:25pm
nice dan,

can't wait to pick her.

Skip Kelley
Jul-31-2008, 1:30pm
Dan, very nice sunburst!!

Hans
Aug-01-2008, 10:29am
A couple off to sanding and some other assorted necks. Gerry's Celtic special in front and a PML back. V6 neck...

Dan Voight
Aug-01-2008, 10:36am
nice hans

John Hill
Aug-01-2008, 12:45pm
Agghh! I should have bought one of Han's mandolins back when I lived in St. Paul while I had the chance!! These pics are a sore trial but beautiful work to look at.

amowry
Aug-01-2008, 6:29pm
I love that headstock, Hans!

Staining week this week...

Dan Voight
Aug-01-2008, 7:37pm
Love that color Andrew.

Onesound
Aug-01-2008, 8:52pm
Love that color Andrew.
I'll second that! I can imagine that it would look equally good with a satin or gloss finish.

Hans
Aug-02-2008, 6:59am
Thanks Andrew! Still drawing the redesigned body, making scroll mockups, etc. Getting close, but not quite right yet. Hoping not to have to make any changes after V6. Nice looking back!
Mn John...come to IBMA, come to IBMA... #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

John Hill
Aug-02-2008, 7:15am
Mn John...come to IBMA, come to IBMA... #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
If only I could. For those of us in the residential development industry, now is not the time to be drooling over new mandos or any other new toys.

Since I'm not quite awake & dreaming I'll take a PML, an A4c and, what the heck, a V6 just to cover all the bases.

http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/coffee.gif

Hans
Aug-12-2008, 12:46pm
V6 progress...

Dan Voight
Aug-12-2008, 2:05pm
Love that V6. The scroll has a very modern vibe to it.

John Hill
Aug-12-2008, 4:59pm
Nice.

Troy Harris
Aug-15-2008, 7:41pm
Carving backs…

Troy Harris
Aug-15-2008, 7:42pm
Scroll detail…

Troy Harris
Aug-15-2008, 7:44pm
...

Chris Biorkman
Aug-15-2008, 7:54pm
Nice work, Troy. Your pictures always look great.

Dan Voight
Aug-16-2008, 6:16am
Great looking back Troy. Are you using an overhead router to remove material for the binding ledge around the scroll?

Troy Harris
Aug-16-2008, 9:45pm
I use a Dremel tool with down cut bits and a small base, working free hand with a level surface, before I carve the scroll.
http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Austin Clark
Aug-22-2008, 6:09pm
nice work Troy, I do it very similarly except use a Foredom as I find it is lighter and easier to control the speed.

I just fretted these today.
Left to right, prototype 2pt mandola, Dennis,Corey,James,Brad,Mel,Bill.

mandopete
Aug-22-2008, 6:13pm
Nice line up!

Chris Biorkman
Aug-22-2008, 9:18pm
Austin, what's that one on the end? A two point?

Bill Snyder
Aug-22-2008, 9:35pm
...Left to right, prototype 2pt mandola, Dennis,Corey,James,Brad,Mel,Bill.
I believe that should answer the question. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Austin Clark
Aug-23-2008, 10:59am
the mandola...

Ted Eschliman
Aug-23-2008, 11:12am
A dola? Oh, Grrreat...
Austin, my wife is going to hate you now!!!

labraid
Aug-23-2008, 5:24pm
I'm partial to that walnut sweetie... "bichin!"

Brad Weiss
Aug-23-2008, 5:55pm
I just fretted these today.
Left to right, prototype 2pt mandola, Dennis,Corey,James,Brad,Mel,Bill.
Huh? When did I order THAT?!!? I must have forgotten... thanks for sending it my way when you're done!

Austin Clark
Aug-24-2008, 10:03am
It is actually not walnut, but Rosewood with Koa binding and Mahogany neck. It is really pretty wood, though. I can't wait to see it with finish on it!

sunburst
Aug-24-2008, 11:51am
A couple of mandos fresh from the sanding machine at the mandolin building facilities here at Hamlett industries, ready for transport down to the finishing facilities and the trip through the staining machine.

Austin Clark
Aug-24-2008, 2:06pm
nice John, do you have a picture of that inlay? btw, great color in that veneer!

Chris Biorkman
Aug-24-2008, 2:09pm
Very nice, John. It's amazing how good robots are these days at woodworking.

sunburst
Aug-24-2008, 4:56pm
...do you have a picture of that inlay?
Check out this thread. (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=7;t=54709;st=0) There are pictures of several interesting inlays in there including a shot of this one right after sanding it down.

JEStanek
Aug-24-2008, 8:48pm
Those look great, John!

Jamie

Skip Kelley
Aug-27-2008, 9:47am
Here's a pic of a F4 I have been working on. The back is a piece of master grade quilt I have been waiting to use for years. It is wet prior to sanding. Hope you enjoy!

Chris Biorkman
Aug-27-2008, 9:58am
Looks nice, Skip.

Hans
Aug-27-2008, 4:37pm
Good work Skip, and the top is?

Skip Kelley
Aug-27-2008, 7:45pm
Thanks for the compliments! Han's, the top is a old piece of really wide grain sitka. This mandolin is probably the loudest I have made. Han's, by the way, I have always admired you work!

Steve-o
Aug-27-2008, 8:15pm
Here's a pic of a F4 I have been working on. The back is a piece of master grade quilt I have been waiting to use for years.
That's a gorgeous quilt, Skip. Looking forward to seeing it with stain!

Troy Harris
Aug-28-2008, 5:53pm
Cutting the sound holes…

Troy Harris
Aug-28-2008, 5:56pm
Squaring the top for the 15th fret position riser block…

Troy Harris
Aug-28-2008, 5:58pm
I’m ready to fit the tone bars. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/coffee.gif http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mike Black
Aug-28-2008, 10:45pm
Troy, I always admire your clean lines! Yours and others pictures make me a little self-conscious about posting my progress pictures.

Troy Harris
Aug-30-2008, 8:36am
Thank you Mike… I’d encourage you to show your work. The Café presents a wonderful opportunity to share your work, get valuable feedback, and to see the work of other builders. I continuously learn from other builders and the information that is shared on the Café.

Skip Kelley
Aug-30-2008, 8:54am
Troy, your work is outstanding! Very clean!!

ellisppi
Sep-01-2008, 4:50pm
makin a little more progress on my new A model ready for back

Austin Clark
Sep-02-2008, 9:51am
almost done scraping....

Austin Clark
Sep-02-2008, 9:52am
and another...

amowry
Sep-02-2008, 10:27am
Nice!

Hans
Sep-03-2008, 4:18pm
Big guy...the H5C progress. WV red and back (right) to be very hard red maple.

Glassweb
Sep-03-2008, 4:43pm
i'd say there's some ridiculously talented builders out there, and my hat's off to them all... how do you guys and gals do it?!

Austin Clark
Sep-03-2008, 5:07pm
That is a perfect scroll, Hans.

Mandolusional
Sep-03-2008, 5:36pm
Clean lines and talent are right, and a whole lot of time and hard work- beautiful stuff all around.

Hans
Sep-04-2008, 4:21am
Thanks Austin...I have to redefine the scroll ridge a little as it looks too much like an F5. Here's a quick size comparison.

Hans
Sep-10-2008, 6:15pm
All ready to sand...

labraid
Sep-14-2008, 4:04pm
Rockin her ready for CMSA

MLT
Sep-14-2008, 8:00pm
I with I were going to be at CMSA Montreal '08! I would love to hear #57 being played by some of our members. She is going to be a beauty. Are those staves maple?

labraid
Sep-14-2008, 8:35pm
Well, Michael, I hope it will be at the convention myself. We're getting mighty close to still be on the bowl, but... we'll see!

It is indeed maple, here's another shot.

MLT
Sep-14-2008, 8:42pm
I have every faith.

I hope other members are seeing this! And those scallops--wow!

BTW--Nice Avatar too! :))

JEStanek
Sep-14-2008, 9:59pm
Very ship-like, Brian. Can't wait to see more of it.

Jamie

buddyellis
Sep-15-2008, 9:38pm
Brian, how in the heck do you carve that pattern in the back. That's GOTTA be tough to get clean.

labraid
Sep-16-2008, 2:57pm
Laser vision. It's how I plowed through college too. Well, that and a nicely cut rattail. File I mean, not the sweet hairstyle.

Hey'd you ever get that wax, buddy? I figure customs might've smoked it if they found it going cross border. They ate my oranges once.

buddyellis
Sep-16-2008, 5:05pm
Wasn't sure if you chiseled down to a certain point and then went at it with a file, or what -- alot of work either way, but oh so cool looking. Very, very fine work.

Yep I got it, just not had any building time in the last few weeks: start of semester at work == me not wanting to do much when I get home :-) I just got a couple orders in at the last festival I went to, though, so I suppose its time to get my butt back in gear.