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danb
Nov-07-2004, 4:42pm
I suppose if botany fascinated me I'd do flower arranging..
L-R
2004 Stephen O Smith, 2003 Lebeda F5pp, 1902 Gibson Mandola, 1903 Gibson F mandolin, 191? Gibson A4, 1923 Gibson A

danb
Nov-07-2004, 4:44pm
Mandola #3063 (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/gibson/serial/3063), #3263 F Mandolin (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/gibson/serial/3263)

danb
Nov-07-2004, 4:50pm
3263 F, 71261 Snake, National "Supro" mandolin, 70049 AJr, 2004 Steve O Smith

danb
Nov-07-2004, 4:56pm
Nugget 91 (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/nugget/serial/91) Loar 76547 (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/gibson/serial/76547)

http://www.mandolinarchive.com/images/91_nugget_and_friend.jpg

danb
Nov-07-2004, 5:00pm
71261 and 3263

http://www.mandolinarchive.com/goofy/Copy-of-snake_poke.jpg

mandopete
Nov-07-2004, 9:12pm
Wintergrass 2004....Please don't ask me to list them as I can't honestly remember all of them (too much cerveza).

mandopete
Nov-07-2004, 9:14pm
Mandogasm 2003...(I might be able to recall all of these). #You may note the "ghostly" image of Bill Monroe in the senter of the picture - really wierd!

mandopete
Nov-07-2004, 9:16pm
Mandogasm 2004 with a few old guitars (1946 and 1952) and some tasty A's thrown in for good measure.

Jim Garber
Nov-07-2004, 9:23pm
I haven't gotten around to doing my carved top ones yet, but here are my bowlbacks.

L to R, top row: Harwood, Vega Style 3, Martin Style 6, Pandini, L. Ricca, Washburn 225, Stridente;
Bottom row: C. Biggio, No Name "Boatback", Grauso, American Conservatory mandola, Waldo, No Name Pearl bordered.

[I already posted on the bowlback thread but I suppose it bears repetition]

Jim

G. Fisher
Nov-07-2004, 9:48pm
Pete, #

I can ID the mandos from the 2004 Wintergrass picture:

L-R #Dave Coleson, Larry Hughes Engleman spruce, Larry Hughes Red spruce, AL Smart, Collings MF5, Flairon Artist, C.E. Ward A5, Lloyd LaPlant, Brentrup Itailan Spruce, Brentrup German spruce, Brentrup prototype oval hole.

G. Fisher
Nov-07-2004, 9:59pm
Here is a picture from Hans Brentrups a few years ago.



Back row L-R; Brentrup Red spruce, Brentrup Italian spruce, Gilchrist, Gibson Master Model, 23 Loar.

Laying down: Brentrup German spruce, R.L. Givens

Jim Hilburn
Nov-08-2004, 9:18am
Here's what my couch looks like some days.
There's my #20 "A", Steven Stone's Wiens, Drew's #30 Hilburn, and A Gilchrist that Steven had on loan.

Jim Hilburn
Nov-08-2004, 9:23am
If anyone ever see's Ome #2 that has flower inlay's like the Nugget that Dan posted, what you really have is one of the earliest Nuggets, and was the prototype for Tim O'Brien's. I bet it's still here in Colorado.
One of the great mistakes of my life to sell it because I figured I could just build my own.

mandopete
Nov-09-2004, 12:26pm
I can ID the mandos from the 2004 Wintergrass picture:
Looks like you didnt get enough beer!

http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Lane Pryce
Nov-09-2004, 1:18pm
All "yall" are jes mando poor. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Lp

Spruce
Nov-15-2004, 6:22pm
A slug of John Sullivans from Wintergrass 2003...

Spruce
Nov-15-2004, 6:26pm
And a Loar flanked by four of Fletcher Brock's F5s from this year at IBMA....

SternART
Nov-15-2004, 6:45pm
Hey Dan........what does that awesome looking S.O.Smith mandolin sound like?

danb
Nov-16-2004, 4:27pm
SternArt: It's a very fine mandolin. Has some of the 'thoonk' like his oval-holed ones do (like the acme in the classifieds!) and quite a fair bit of bluegrass growl too. It's firmly between the genres in tone. VERY loud, and perhaps the nicest most even sounding E string on a mando I've yet played. Chip's a lucky Guy. I took another pile of pictures of it that I'll sort out and post soon.. along with tons of other ones of Steve's stuff!

David Miller
Nov-22-2004, 7:27pm
Sorry these arent all mandos, but it took me many years, and instruments, to finally see the light. Bass by Peavey, Guitar by Seagull, Violin by Juzek, MANDO by COLLINGS (my fav.), Banjolin by someone in Istambul, Turkey???, and a harp and dulcimer thrown in for good measure. Lets see.... thats... um..... 55 strings by my count..... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif

Gary S
Nov-23-2004, 2:24pm
How about a couple of snakeheads.Hope I will be able to attach the pic..Gary

Gary S
Nov-23-2004, 2:57pm
Let me try this again...Gary

Jim Garber
Nov-23-2004, 6:45pm
Gary:
What year is the A4? Also what is the snakehead guitar? How about some full frontal shots?

Jim

Gary S
Nov-24-2004, 9:15am
Hey Jim,
The A-4 is a 1924 with virzi(very sweet sounding not alot of volume,slimmer neck profile). The guitar is a 1923 L-4(nice boomy sound,great old time guitar).I will try to upload another photo..Have a great Thanksgiving...Gary Silverstein

Jim Garber
Nov-24-2004, 9:50am
Excellent! A nice pair of Gibsons and they look quite comfortable on your couch. I will try to take some pics of my non-bowlbacks. I am getting a reputation on this board as being only into bowlbacks. Not that there is anything wrong with that...

Jim

MANDOLINMYSTER
Nov-29-2004, 12:49pm
Heres a few fine examples
1924 A1
1921 A2
1921 F4
hiding in the back row is 84 Dawg

Darryl Wolfe
Nov-29-2004, 1:15pm
What's with the script on the snake A-1? #A true left handed oriented "The Gibson"?? ..or an optical delusion

MANDOLINMYSTER
Nov-29-2004, 4:21pm
just an optical delusion. Its one the them stenciled on logos.

danb
Nov-29-2004, 4:24pm
OK Gary & Michael, I need serial numbers and more photos for the archives!

ps - that includes virzi serial #s and neckbock stamps

oldwave maker
Dec-08-2004, 8:30pm
friend Judd has a real camera:

oldwave maker
Dec-08-2004, 8:32pm
works mo' better than my digital instamatic!

J. Wiens
Dec-10-2004, 7:37am
Wiens in the middle, a gorgeous Stan Miller on the left ....the same one for sale in the classifieds. Two nice old Gibsons and a Givens Legacy on the far right.

J. Wiens
Dec-10-2004, 7:39am
oops ,forgot to attach the pic http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Jim Garber
Dec-10-2004, 7:56am
Jamie:
A nice concise collection. I had owned and am somewhat nostalgic for a whitefaced A3 (my first Gibson) and currently own a nice F4. Which one do you turn to first to play?

Jim

Jim Garber
Dec-10-2004, 11:48am
Here are my acoustic Gibsons, as promised:

L to R: '23 Ajr; 23 A2(Z); '16 A with aluminum bridge saddle; '24 F4; '37 K1 mandocello

Jim Garber
Dec-10-2004, 11:51am
Here are the non-Gibson carved mandolins:

l to r: 1940 Martin 2-15; '83 Flatiron A5-2; '85 Monteleone Grand Artist mandola; '21 Bacon Artist; teens Lyon & Healy A.

Jim

Darryl Wolfe
Dec-10-2004, 11:58am
I think I've posted this before..'25 "A" (fully bound though), '23 A2, 1917 A, 1914 A, Lloyd not pictured http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Darryl Wolfe
Dec-10-2004, 11:59am
jgarber...let's seee some more of that Bacon....that is incredibly cool

bluesmandolinman
Dec-10-2004, 1:38pm
http://de.geocities.com/bluesmandolinman/IM002615.jpg

Here are 3 Mandolas I once had at the same time ( 2 x H-2 + 1 x H-1)...wished I could keep them all http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

J. Wiens
Dec-10-2004, 8:34pm
Jim...Alas, none of them are mine http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

danb
Dec-12-2004, 6:36am
Loar, Gilchrist, Master Model.. Brent Truitt's Gil & Master model, posing on thte couch at his Nashville Studio..

Brian Ray
Dec-12-2004, 10:00am
Nice... I logged quite a few hours in that studio back in my BM days (Before Mando). I saw it go from slab to studio and even helped paint. Brent's one hell of a mando player. Wish I had picked his brain then... better late than never though. So here's my grouping:

Laura Ratcliff #21, BRW #44 and Rose #10...
http://www.dasspunk.com/brw/group.jpg

dtb
Dec-12-2004, 10:48am
some of you guys are truely mando sluts. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

danb
Dec-23-2004, 3:09pm
Double vision..

danb
Dec-23-2004, 3:10pm
71261 (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/gibson/serial/71261) on left, 72707 (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/gibson/serial/72707) on right.. note the different "bumps" on the peghead for 2 instruments that could almost be brothers..

danb
Dec-23-2004, 3:10pm
And here are the two boys in duelling pistol formation..

danb
Dec-23-2004, 3:26pm
One of them has the best tailpiece cover I've ever seen..

Gavin Baird
Dec-23-2004, 3:58pm
Dan,
Is it an opical allusion or is that tail piece photo engraved?....G

danb
Dec-23-2004, 6:11pm
It's stamped, just unusually clear. needs a tiny bit more gentle rubbing to get the fingerprints off!

Jonathan James
Dec-23-2004, 9:02pm
Stunning workmanship!

MANDOLINMYSTER
Dec-24-2004, 1:27pm
You gotta just love them old Gibson's:cool:

danb
Dec-27-2004, 5:57am
Tailpiece covers.. first shot shows a very early and a "pretty early" style "pineapple" cover pair. Note that the stamping is in a different place and angle..

danb
Dec-27-2004, 6:00am
Here is the same one from the right on the previous photo (~1904) alongside one from a snakehead (1923).

The stamping on these two are almost eerie in how similar to each other they are

danb
Dec-27-2004, 6:26am
Two different shades of green from two 20s cases..

danb
Dec-27-2004, 6:28am
A stack of cases (some empty!)

danb
Jan-02-2005, 1:44pm
'03 and '17 scrolls..

danb
Jan-02-2005, 1:45pm
Another view..

danb
Jan-02-2005, 2:00pm
Only one scroll here, but I like the photo!

http://www.mandolinarchive.com/images/26287_scroll_detail_back.jpg

UKHABU
Jan-03-2005, 7:57am
Slight pedant point - that's a '16 scroll on the F2

danb
Jan-05-2005, 4:08pm
From a friend. See if you can guess the maker, or on the obvious Gibsons.. the years..

mmukav
Jan-06-2005, 8:16pm
Gibson F9------Weber Sage #1------Gibson A9

Charles Johnson
Jan-07-2005, 10:13pm
Here's a nice Martin mandolin collection:

Back row
20's Ditson A, 17 Bitting Special (maple), 21 Style B, 18 Style A, 48 Style A shade top, 20's Ditson BK (koa), 28 Style AK (koa)

Middle row
15 Style A, 25 Style C, 24 Style E, 14 Style D, 20 Style C, 22 Style B (all Brazilian RW)

Front row
26 Style AA mandola, 36 Style BB mandola (BRW)

Charles Johnson
Jan-07-2005, 10:19pm
Here's a second shot of just the 5 different grades, A, B, C, D, and E. All are Brazilian rosewood. The A was once owned by Norman Blake.

Charles Johnson
Jan-07-2005, 10:25pm
My favorite mandolin picture I have taken.

Jim Garber
Jan-08-2005, 9:29am
Charles:
Great photos! Are those all yours or ones you have accumulated or just a congregation of them from different owners? I hope you don't mind my asking.

Jim

danb
Jan-08-2005, 3:33pm
(I'm posting this one for Ken Waltham)

Left to right.
1923 A, 1924 TL, 1923 F5, 1924 F4, 1927 F5,1928 K1, 1929 F5

mandolooter
Jan-08-2005, 3:41pm
Ken, whats that tenor lute sound like? I love the way those look with the banjo headstock. My tenor guitar has been getting a lot of play time lately leading me to look towards a longer than mando, scale length instrument as my next MIAS purchase...the I standing for instrument and we're all familar with the AS aren't we !!!

Ken Waltham
Jan-08-2005, 4:51pm
The TL sounds pretty thin to me. Too long of a scale length, with tenor banjo strings.. I don't really see any use for it. I am researching having it converted to a mandola. Notice how the relief around the rim looks so much like that snakehead. I think it would make a fantastic mandola, and would probably sound like a Loar signed H5. The fingerboard is even raised off the top like a style 5! And.. it has the Master Model label.
I just missed buying one with 8 strings... I'd loved to have tried that.

danb
Jan-11-2005, 6:46am
Ken, how do you have it strung/tuned? I have done a lot with Irish tenor banjos and tenor guitars- I'd be quite curious to hear how it works out with weightier Irish TB strings, such as

G .052 PB Wound
D .035 PB Wound
A .022 PB Wound
E .012 Plain Steel

That's how I set up my 19-fret Weymann tenor banjo.. My National resonator has

G .047 PB wound
D .035 PB wound
A .023 PB wound
E .013 plain

(The G doesn't need to be as heavy, the E needs a little more to it)

In my opinion most 19-fret tenor banjos sound wrong at CGDA tone-wise, but they pick up a lovely personality with GDAE.

Darryl Wolfe
Jan-11-2005, 7:29am
Charles..in your last picture..is the Style E a mandola?...it appears larger.
Great pics by the way...I notice the first one on your site yesterday

mandolooter
Jan-11-2005, 4:32pm
Ken,
that was kinda my guess too. #Just not enough downward pressure to drive to top to its full poential. I don't know what that would do to the value but I bet it would sound a lot better! #I ended up getting another tenor guitar and am inpatiently waiting its arrival. #Im gonna compare it to my 20's Regal custom-built with curly mahogany back and sides and if the tone is way similar sell the least fav of the two after a month or so. Thanks for the info!

Dan,
Im gonna give those guages a try on my Weymann tenor. I down tuned it to GDAE with the strings on it (GHS tenors I believe) and it wasn't very toneful to my ear. One question tho...is the tension about the same? I'd like to try those guages out on my tenor guitar with the GDAE tuning to recoup some more bottom end outta the thing. Thanks and BTW I finally got around to a more than curtsy look at the Mandolin Archive and wow, what a great site, idea and all! Thanks for the work and efforts of ALL involved, thats just a great treasure to be able to view in such an organized fashion the evolving of the mandolin to its current state!
Jeff
Jeff

Ken Waltham
Jan-11-2005, 7:02pm
Where's a good spot to order some of those strings? I can do that and just try it before doing anything.
However, I do feel that with a body identical to the one and only mando/viola, this thing is dying to be something more than a TL that nobody knows what to do with... even when they were new.
I do appreciate the advice, however, and the more we talk about this the better. I've had it quite some time without doing anything with it, because of the rareness of the item.

danb
Jan-11-2005, 8:10pm
Ken- you should be able to pick those up single gauges from a guitar shop, or mail order from Elderly or numerous others.. I've bought from elderly and several other online shops over the years.

As you say, worth a shot!

danb
Jan-11-2005, 8:11pm
Mandolooter- mine is a fairly heavy set of gauges. Search google for the "string tension calculator" if you want to noodle with the variables or notes you produce.. I used that to get my various 10-string zooks working properly

Jim Garber
Jan-11-2005, 8:29pm
The gauges a friend recommended for a short-scale (17 fret) tenor banjo in ocatve mando tuning:

.011 .016 .028 .038

Jim

mandolooter
Jan-11-2005, 11:52pm
I'll do that string calc. search, probably should've even thought of that my self since I've been wanting to give it a go for quite a while now. #I don't worry too much about the Weymann banjo, its a tank, but the tenor guitar is old and I don't wanna damage it doing something dumb. #I have tuned it down to GDAE with the current guages on it and it sounds pretty decent but the G is kinda floppy feelin and it'll buzz some. #I like quite a bit of resistance if I can get it cuz I'll hit em pretty hard once I get going. #Thanks for info and I'll try to ooze outta here before everyone thinks Im hijacking this thread...what we need are some more grouping shots!
Jeff

Scott Tichenor
Jan-18-2005, 9:21pm
Playing around with my new camera a bit. L-R: 2004 Gibson Varnish Fern, 2002 Collings MF5 #3, 2004 Brentrup 23V, 2001 Nugget Deluxe #233. These will not be appearing on the classifieds.

JimW
Jan-18-2005, 9:34pm
Scott,

That Gibson varnished Fern is the only one with a pick in the strings. I assume it's getting the most play time? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif


Jim
http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif

Scott Tichenor
Jan-18-2005, 9:35pm
Flip side

JimW
Jan-18-2005, 9:42pm
All very beautiful, but that Nugget, man, it has it all. That is also the very best sounding mandolin I've ever heard, although it has only been via recordings, but hopefully I'll get to hear it live this year at MandoFest 2005. All nice mandolins though Scott.

Jim

Scott Tichenor
Jan-18-2005, 9:42pm
That Gibson varnished Fern is the only one with a pick in the strings. I assume it's getting the most play time?
It was definitely getting played that day. I rotate the cases every time I put them away for the night. Used to leave one in the stand all the time but I don't trust my new dog and not willing to find out if she'd like to chew on the face of one of them--likely. These mandolins are all as different as can be and I love that about them. As Mike Compton says, life is good.

jasona
Jan-18-2005, 9:46pm
Scott: I'd love to hear your opinions on how they differ. Man, what a stable!

Professor PT
Jan-19-2005, 12:15am
All I can say is damn you Tichenor, damn you! Must you own one of every great mandolin ever made? What's next, a Loar?

Scott Tichenor
Jan-19-2005, 6:32am
What's next, a Loar?
Will Kimble F that's been on order for awhile.

grandmainger
Jan-19-2005, 6:57am
What's next, a Loar?
Will Kimble F that's been on order for awhile.
That's it, I'm officially depressed.

Jonathan James
Jan-19-2005, 9:04am
Scott, now you just need a Dudenbostal, Gilchrist, Wiens, Randy Wood, and Monty to fill the stable and your work will be done. Keep us posted!

mandopete
Jan-19-2005, 9:38am
I rotate the cases every time I put them away for the night.
Interesting idea....I have been pondering this a bit myself (having 4 mandolins as well). #I have been concerned about letting them "just sit around" and this sounds like a good idea.

With that said I got the Flatiron and Smart mandos out of the closet this weekend and discovered they were a bit dull, most of which I attribute to needing new strings.

This reminds me a bit of a major-league baseball team and it's pitching staff - now all I need is a good closer!

BTW - nice pictures too!

Tim
Jan-19-2005, 9:52am
Scott, now you just need a Dudenbostal, Gilchrist, Wiens, Randy Wood, and Monty to fill the stable and your work will be done. Keep us posted!
...and a BRW # http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Jonathan James
Jan-19-2005, 10:13am
oh yeah, my bad.

mandopete
Jan-19-2005, 10:57am
Playing around with my new camera a bit. L-R: 2002 Collings MF-5R #39, 1995 Flatiron F5-SB, 1997 Lawrence Smart F-5 #80, 2003 Fletcher Brock A Oval #51. These will not be appearing on the classifieds.

mandopete
Jan-19-2005, 10:59am
Flip side

mandopete
Jan-19-2005, 11:03am
New Nikon D70 digital camera and yes, I am just learing how to use it. #Photo's were indoor using the built in flash so colors are not as nice as Scott's photo's. #I notice that the curved lines look pretty jagged. #Looks like it's Digital Photography for Dummies for this Mandopete.

http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

mandopete
Jan-19-2005, 11:35am
...another grouping that could possibly benefit from daily rotation:

Hans
Jan-19-2005, 11:47am
My personal stash plus one.
Mark's 23V red spruce, 23V German, 23V Italian, 22V, 22C
'21 F-4 Cremona Brown, 23V red spruce (in the white)
'14 A-4, '16 A-4, 21V, 20V, 21V, L21V

Darryl Wolfe
Jan-19-2005, 2:12pm
I believe this has been posted before, but it's still one of the best "goupings" ever. #Can you say about $1,000,000 not including the A-5??

Jonathan James
Jan-19-2005, 2:29pm
Holy smokes!

Tim Saxton
Jan-19-2005, 2:50pm
That's it. I quit! I am selling every gutitar and mandolin. I never want to play again. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Sure.

Tim Saxton

Mas is starting to set in.......must.....not.....reach....for......wallet ...

eightstrings
Jan-19-2005, 3:24pm
Scott- If I'm ever in Kansas, lock your doors and windows http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Brett

mandopete
Jan-19-2005, 3:36pm
I believe this has been posted before, but it's still one of the best "goupings" ever. #Can you say about $1,000,000 not including the A-5??
That's Not Fair - I'm Crying Foul, Foul I Say!

acousticphd
Jan-19-2005, 5:17pm
[/QUOTE]I believe this has been posted before, but it's still one of the best "goupings" ever. #Can you say about $1,000,000 not including the A-5?? [QUOTE]

I can not say it. But I imagine I could retire on the right half of the bottom row.
The A5 I would deign to play.

fatt-dad
Jan-19-2005, 8:03pm
Hard to follow the Loars, but here goes. . . . . My Keepers

fatt-dad
Jan-19-2005, 8:06pm
Oh yeah the descriptions - Top to bottom, left to right:
Alvarez "hand-made" two point, Japanese KM-250 with Fishman pickup, "distressed" Ibanez, Aria M-300, pre-Gibson 1N, 1920 A3, Stiver A and pre-Gibson Flatiron A5-1

Jim Hilburn
Jan-19-2005, 10:24pm
Any guess as to what the Loar A is worth? Of course the answer is whatever someone would pay for it, so if it did come up for sale...

Crowder
Jan-19-2005, 11:59pm
Playing around with my new camera a bit. L-R: 2004 Gibson Varnish Fern, 2002 Collings MF5 #3, 2004 Brentrup 23V, 2001 Nugget Deluxe #233. These will not be appearing on the classifieds.
All four makers are Cafe advertisers. Hey, you deserve it!!! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Darryl Wolfe
Jan-20-2005, 9:41am
Loar A-5 value...very very hard to say..there may be someone out there willing to go one of a kind pricing (like 250,000)..but I would realistically guess that it would only bring a moderate premium..say 40-50,000 above market

Jim Hilburn
Jan-20-2005, 11:22am
By above market, do you mean the Loar F-5 market?

Darryl Wolfe
Jan-20-2005, 11:30am
Yes..the Loar F5 market..of course this is just my guess/opinion. I'm referring to over the $110k-$135k market that exists now....meaning..It could bring $200k or more, but I personally think over $140-160k could be a real stretch.

When it last sold, it brought about a 15% premium...at that time there was still a "yes it's a Loar, but it's an A-model not an F". Just like we see on this message board all the time.

acousticphd
Jan-20-2005, 12:17pm
Hard to follow the Loars, but here goes. . . . . My Keepers


Thanks for that, papa gordo. We need more examples of the the Common Man Keeper Grouping (CMKG) too.

Flowerpot
Jan-20-2005, 12:25pm
Great pictures, all. Incredibly nice axes.

Scott T, I'd still like to hear your descriptions of the differences in tone between the Fern, Collings, Brent, and Nugget. If you get the chance. I think I remember the Nugget is Red Spruce and the Brentrup is German... are they all different tone woods?

fatt-dad
Jan-23-2005, 6:41pm
Continuing. . . . .

Here is a photo I call, "Gibamazoo" circa 1930. To the left an L-00 and the right a KM-11. Is there any doubt that these were made at the same place?

f-d

berkeleymando
Jan-23-2005, 6:54pm
Here's my small instrument family. Arches walnut A mandolin, Kevin Schwab 4 string electric mandolin (Koa/Mahogony/Maple), and a Peter Howlett 'Island Koa' soprano uke.

mandroid
Jan-23-2005, 10:25pm
Professor Peabody and his boy Sherman dial the 'wayback machine' to 1924... mr. Loar?, http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif

Steve Stahl
Jan-24-2005, 2:06pm
Here are the two mandolins I have built. The blonde (#1) was completed in 2002. I have been staining, varnishing, stripping, and re-varnishing on #2 since May 2004. It is still a bit rough around the f-holes, but I think I will stop here as I hate sanding through the stain into bare wood.

Steve Stahl
Jan-24-2005, 2:07pm
And here is the frontal view:

Jonathan James
Jan-24-2005, 3:26pm
Very, very nice.

Darryl Wolfe
Jan-25-2005, 11:25pm
nice stuff Gary

resonant68
Jan-28-2005, 9:13pm
I tried to post a pic but it will not let me...(?)
How do I?

resonant68
Jan-28-2005, 10:54pm
Fatt-Dad learned me how....thanks FD.
Here goes.

resonant68
Jan-28-2005, 11:04pm
From left to right,top to bottom.....
The "David" F5
A two point I built myself
Don Kawalek celtic style I built myself
Freshwater celtic
Old Cecho Slavacian Fiddle
Bowl Back(probably Montgomery Ward early 1920's)(?)and.....
Stew Mac A model I built myself.

fmspinc
Jan-29-2005, 1:08pm
heres my group

fmspinc
Jan-29-2005, 1:09pm
Another group ( sorry for the large pix - this sizing business still a mystery to me ..

fatt-dad
Jan-29-2005, 7:25pm
fmspink - what are we looking at?

F-D

fmspinc
Jan-30-2005, 12:49pm
Group 1: 1975 D-18 purchused new by moi; 1918 A - been in many hands I expect; 2000 Stinnett (love this one) and a '54 tenor.

Group 2: The D-18, the tenor and a 1990 000-28 SO (limited run Sing Out magazine edition).

f5joe
Jan-30-2005, 5:25pm
Here are my three Eastmans: MD-615 mando, AR-616 archback jumbo, AR-810CE 17" archtop.

http://www.lilypix.com/photos/data/1f0e3dad99908345f7439f8ffabdffc4/76_p40044.jpg

EastmanGordon
Jan-31-2005, 8:07am
Joe,
you are cut off, no more Eastmans! Leave some for everyone else!
Gordon

f5joe
Jan-31-2005, 5:52pm
OK, but just for today! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Patrick Gunning
Jan-31-2005, 9:10pm
Paul Lestock's octave-mando-cello grouping. My G-style mando will be delivered at Wintergrass

f5joe
Feb-01-2005, 6:53am
Gunning, extra nice!

Flowerpot
Feb-01-2005, 11:34am
Wow, Gunning, that is too cool. That's gotta be one of the best non-traditional designs I've ever seen. Hope I get a chance to see your new one at Wintergrass.

G_Smolt
Feb-03-2005, 8:55pm
At MandoPete's urging, I bring you the family...
(I deleted a previous pic for this new, updated one)

Playing around with my new camera a bit. L-R: '23 Loar, '24 Loar w/virzi, Loar A-5...






Just kidding.

L-R: 1998 Dave Coleson F #16, 2002 Mike Blohm "The Laurel" #3, 1988 CE Ward "The Gibson" A-5 copy, 2000 Larry Hughes F #20, 2001 Larry Hughes F #22. "These will not be appearing on the classifieds"...

danb
Feb-04-2005, 1:26pm
Any color you like as long as it's brown..

one from my friend Chipper. My snakehead, Mandola, Ajr

danb
Feb-04-2005, 1:27pm
Hmm.. needs more scrolls.. same mandos + style O and an F2

kneauxdn
Feb-05-2005, 11:09pm
My modest little collection, sorry I could not get
all of them in the picture. Mostly old Gibson stuff. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

mandoman15
Feb-05-2005, 11:26pm
i hate you....will you be my friend?

kneauxdn
Feb-05-2005, 11:43pm
You can be my friend if you show me how to tune
these darn things!

Tim Saxton
Feb-05-2005, 11:44pm
I think i'm going to go kill my self now http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

mmukav
Feb-06-2005, 11:18am
kneauxdn,

We at the Mandolin Cafe salute you!

And may we all use your picture as an example of how many mandolins we each SHOULD own? (to show our wives that too many is never TOO many!)

Jonathan James
Feb-06-2005, 12:14pm
Dang. It would hard to figure out which one you haven't played in the last few months...

AlanN
Feb-06-2005, 12:30pm
Ken, you beat me to it. That's from IBMA about 5 years ago. The middle one standing up in the case on the right is for sale.

Jim Garber
Feb-06-2005, 2:44pm
Wow... G_Smolt! How dod you sneak into my house and photograph your mandolins on my futon couch? (posted earlier on page two of this thread)

http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/uploads/post-15-97334-gibsons_sm.jpg

Jim

kneauxdn
Feb-06-2005, 3:06pm
Alan
I knew somebody would expose me soon enough.
Actually the date is on the pic if you look cose
enough.
I think about 39 Loar signed instruments were
gathered there with some well known owners.
What a blast it was!

MANDOLINMYSTER
Feb-06-2005, 4:39pm
Heres a few of my favorites..
22 A4, 21 F4, #84 DAWG.

Scotti Adams
Feb-06-2005, 4:51pm
Myster..thats just too sweet...quite a harem...

Brier
Feb-06-2005, 10:49pm
My three sons.

Flowerpot
Feb-06-2005, 11:30pm
So what are those three, and what kind of white bridges are those?

I like the fingerboard truncation on the rightmost one.

G. Fisher
Feb-07-2005, 12:15am
My trio,

LaPlant #106, LaPlant #6, Brentrup 23V

mandopete
Feb-07-2005, 9:52am
Greg,

Looks like you're cuttin' back!

http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

G. Fisher
Feb-07-2005, 11:15am
Hey Pete,

I forgot to put my Yellowstone prototype in the picture. I also have a couple of mandos in the process of being completed.

By the way I still have that saddle for your Flatiron. So, you will finally get it a Wintergrass.

zoukboy
Feb-07-2005, 3:07pm
Wow! There's a whole lot of cluster pluckin' goin' on around here!!

Brier
Feb-07-2005, 9:55pm
Flowerpot,
The mandos are my first three. The bridges are solid maple one's from info on the Red Henry site.
Peter.

Django Fret
Feb-08-2005, 1:09am
Here are mine at this point...

jasona
Feb-08-2005, 1:20am
Django...you got it BAD http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Django Fret
Feb-08-2005, 1:25am
Django...you got it BAD http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
..and that ain't good!

danb
Feb-08-2005, 6:46am
Django- is your 3-pointer a Gibson? Do I have it in the archives? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Jim Garber
Feb-08-2005, 8:58am
Django Fret:
It looks like you have a nice upperend inlaid pickguard Vega cylinder back. it that a rosewood or maple backed one? How is the top on that? In good shape?

Jim

acousticphd
Feb-08-2005, 4:22pm
Do I see a 4-string lap-steel "mando"http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

And I particularly like the the through-the-body, all-in-one f hole/tote grip on the solid body electric, too.

Tiderider
Feb-08-2005, 5:04pm
Here's my current group...down to one mando...Oh the possibilities!!!! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Leehttp://images.andale.com/f2/121/114/6565467/1108360005677_gouping.jpg

delsbrother
Feb-08-2005, 8:55pm
Django -

Hodson, Aylward, Dupont, or none of the above?

Django Fret
Feb-09-2005, 12:33am
Django- is your 3-pointer a Gibson? Do I have it in the archives? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Hi Dan, yes you already have it listed in the Archive and it is number 9402. If you would like more pictures of it or any other information that I can send about it, please let me know.

Pictures can't begin to describe how wonderful this mandolin sounds, even though it might not be perfect in appearance.

I consider myself very fortunate to have it now.

Django Fret
Feb-09-2005, 12:47am
Django Fret:
It looks like you have a nice upperend inlaid pickguard Vega cylinder back. it that a rosewood or maple backed one? How is the top on that? In good shape?

Jim
Hi Jim,

As far as I can tell, it has a nice tiger maple back. I'll try to post a picture of it in the "Show me your backside" thread when I can.

The top was in pretty bad shape when I saw it, and had sunk under the pickguard. Apparently the top brace had collapsed and someone did a really terrible repair job on it in the past using some kind of epoxy on the brace. I took it to Jim DeCava who was able to resurrect it, but he told me that it was quite a job getting the old glue removed in order to repair it properly.

Jim certainly did a fantastic job with the repair, and I don't think I have ever played a mandolin with as much tone that this one has, especially at the bottom end. He gave me a very accurate assesment of this mandolin before I decided to buy it. I am very greatful for what he did to bring it back to life again.

Django Fret
Feb-09-2005, 12:51am
Do I see a 4-string lap-steel "mando"http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

And I particularly like the the through-the-body, all-in-one f hole/tote grip on the solid body electric, too.
I too am surprised that more builders don't see the practicality and functionality of this feature!

Django Fret
Feb-09-2005, 12:53am
Django -

Hodson, Aylward, Dupont, or none of the above?
Yes, delsbrother, there is a Hodson Djangolin in there, but I'm not sure about the others that you mentioned.

delsbrother
Feb-09-2005, 1:21am
Thanks - I was asking whether the Selmer-esque mando was one of those three makers' (they all make 'em), or some new maker I hadn't heard of yet. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Don Grieser
Feb-11-2005, 6:47pm
Here's a couch full o' mandos for your visual pleasure. Left to right: Gilchrist, Loar, Heiden, Smart, Smart, Summit, Givens.

Ted Eschliman
Feb-12-2005, 12:45pm
A rabble of Rigels:


http://members.aol.com/teesch/images/rigelcropmc.jpg


(and a purty girl...)

danb
Mar-05-2005, 7:10pm
Three from John West (dang the focus!)

Mar-05-2005, 7:15pm
Love those Rigels mandohack.

newbreedbrian
Mar-05-2005, 11:51pm
'suppose ill have a go at this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/newbreedbrian/ebay019.jpg

Jim Garber
Mar-06-2005, 10:07am
newbreedbrian:
I like that Rickenbacker 4 string bass mandolin http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

What brand is that fhole A?

Jim

newbreedbrian
Mar-06-2005, 12:19pm
its an 82 Taggart

G. Fisher
Mar-14-2005, 1:51am
Two Neil Dean mandos from wintergrass.

G. Fisher
Mar-14-2005, 1:55am
Front.

Spencer
Mar-16-2005, 11:21am
Here's my brood, top to bottom:
1977 Harmony
1996 Novotny (Czech Republic)
1999 Flatbush A4.
Spencer

bones12
Apr-08-2005, 1:58pm
Here are mine I keep in constant rotation ( I hope the image follows):Top row Left to Right--1920 H4, 1923 F4, 1924 F4/5,1924 F2,1923 A4, 1924 A4 snakehead. Bottom row Left to Right-- 1988 F5L, 2003 Collings MF5H,2004 Sawchyn O2C, Rose F4, MK Legacy 0 (for bad weather outdoors), Fender 1958 mandocaster (for big fun).If photo fails, I'll try again. They all have great personalities. Doug

Jim Garber
Apr-08-2005, 2:17pm
bones12:
Super nice collection. For some reason I ahve a feeling that you lean toward the oval holes...

BTW what is your 1924 F4/5? Was it a Loar converted to an oval hole? Sort of reverse engineering:)

Jim

danb
Apr-08-2005, 2:24pm
Nice top row there bones, do I have them in the archives ?? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

bones12
Apr-08-2005, 2:38pm
Jim, the F4/5 is a raised fingerboard version of the F4 and not a conversion--just a nifty Gibson odd variation. It plays like a dream. Doug

bones12
Apr-08-2005, 2:44pm
Dan, No none of my mandolins are in the archives. I have a lot of pictures of them, serial numbers, etc. Would you like to have them in the archives? If so, do I just follow the directions at your site? The photo I posted is not very clear but the other non-downsized ones are really clear. Oh yeah, I do like oval holes and I love old-time music. The Skillet Lickers , for me,sit at the pearly gates even though the mandolin wasn't always front and center. By the way the Archives are nice. Thanks, Doug

G. Fisher
Apr-12-2005, 12:51am
LaPlant backs

G. Fisher
Apr-12-2005, 1:06am
LaPlants front.

Kent Barnes
Apr-12-2005, 8:51am
My current herd:
L-R #Harlan #1, Harlan #2, Harlan #3, Kentucky KM-1000

http://www.kentium.net/mandolin/mandolincafe/4mandolins.jpg

Bob Sayers
Apr-15-2005, 6:23pm
Here are mine: 2003 Gibson "Wayne Benson" model and 2001 Martin "George Nakashima" model guitar. The chair is by George Nakashima, too.

Bob

Bob Sayers
Apr-15-2005, 6:26pm
My other pair: #2004 Gibson Varnish Fern and 2000 Martin 000-28EC. #Bench by Mira Nakashima.

Bob

Joe Parker
Apr-15-2005, 7:06pm
'52 Martin D18 and '04 Gibson Master Model

JPP

Jonathan James
Apr-15-2005, 7:09pm
Beautiful stuff, guys! Love the guitar/mandolin pairings.

Scotti Adams
Apr-16-2005, 9:17am
left to right #1991 Martin custom D28 #13 of 23 made, Brazilian Rosewood #1993 Martin D42 MArtin#1935 Herringbone #1997 Martin DR #Rose Mando #11 #some Banjolin thingy..can anyone ID it? #1986 Englehart bass

mandopete
Apr-16-2005, 11:49am
I like Bob's variation on a theme and now we have...

Post a Picture of Your Favorite Mandolin, Guitar and Bluegrass Poster

2001 Martin D-18V
2002 Collings MF-5R
1989 Father of Bluegrass Music

Bob Sayers
Apr-16-2005, 12:16pm
Thanks, Mandopete. #I'm happy I started something a little different. #By the way, my "graphic" is an original concert poster from a Flatt & Scruggs appearance at the University of Illinois in 1963 or 1964. "Old school," as they say. (Also my old school!)

Bob

Mando4Life
Apr-17-2005, 6:46pm
Scotti,

That pic reminds me of something you'd like to see on X-mas morning. Nice selection. That 35 Bone looks near mint.

Hope the arm is doing OK.

WBL

Scotti Adams
Apr-17-2005, 9:32pm
..oh yea..I spent many a morning by that fireplace on Christmas morns..back before it had the insert..ahhh..the memories....the 35 Bone is about as mint as you can get....good eye Wayne.....the arm is slowly but surley coming along....gaining strength in my hand more and more every day...thanks for the thoughtfulness...

garryh
Apr-23-2005, 4:43pm
Here's mine.....
'23 F4, '21 F2, '03 MM, '04 BRW

garryh
Apr-23-2005, 4:44pm
...And the backs

Billiam
Apr-23-2005, 8:40pm
Mama don't allow no guitar playin' round here, but since we're posting other instruments, here's my Weber Hyalite with my two ukeleles, a Ukebrand concert on the left, and a Ko'aloha concert on the right.

Until I placed them together, I had never noticed that the Ko'aloha hole is a smaller version of the Weber D hole turned upside down!

The bench is from Orchard Hardware - hardly a Nakashima! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

mandoman15
Apr-24-2005, 11:13am
You can be my friend if you show me how to tune
these darn things!
hmm, GG DD AA EE for most of them...

Mando4Life
May-05-2005, 7:12pm
my humble batch of instruments... July 10, 2002 Weber Yellowstone and a 2000 Larrivee D-3R...

Mando4Life
May-05-2005, 7:15pm
here's one I'd like to add to my batch...but couldn't do it justice in the playing department....my brother's HD-28V...

Scotti Adams
May-05-2005, 7:16pm
..sweet stuff Wayne...

dstretch
May-05-2005, 10:35pm
Here's My Aniane #1 in the white, and My Taylor.

Baron Collins-Hill
May-11-2005, 3:17pm
im up to 3, here they are...

now all i need is a phoenix
(ill trade anyone my fender)

Baron Collins-Hill
May-11-2005, 3:20pm
Backs
(the phoenix offer still holds)

danb
May-11-2005, 4:12pm
Here're my boys, all up in London for some recording..

Orange one is a 1902/1903 F2, '22 snakehead in brown, 2001 lebeda premium plus, and a 1915 10-string cylinderback in front..

Jim Garber
May-11-2005, 8:17pm
Here're my boys, all up in London for some recording..
You got you there a nice set of strappin' lads, there, Danny!

Is that 3-point really that orange?

Jim

danb
May-12-2005, 5:22am
Not really, the true color doesn't come out great in photos.. That shot is under some kinda strange lights we have in the apartment too

This is a little closer on the color but still not quite right..

http://www.mandolinarchive.com/images/3_point_scroll_top.jpg

mandopete
May-16-2005, 6:29pm
Not exactly a mandolin grouping, but this one just looks so classy!

Darryl Wolfe
May-17-2005, 8:11am
Where/who is that collection Pete

mandopete
May-17-2005, 9:18am
It's from the First Quality Music website. It's called "The Vault"...

"First Quality is proud to present a selection of rare and, in many cases, one-of-a-kind pieces for the serious collector of fine instruments. Some are available for immediate delivery; others are in production and available for preorder. Qualified purchasers may request a private showing of any in-stock instrument at our showroom in Louisville, Kentucky."

Pretty incredible list of high end Martin guitars in that humidor!

Mando4Life
May-17-2005, 9:28am
That room has the limited Martins, custom Martins, custom Collings, DMM, Cherry MM, etc. It bascially houses the high, high $$$ instruments. My brother stopped by there last week while in town and said they have some real nice pieces on display.

WBL

oldwave maker
May-17-2005, 10:08am
Adoption papers signed, these siblings are heading out later today for new homes, new tunes, hopefully some payin', not pain, gigs. unfinished bass furniture behind, almost ready for shellac bath

Jonathan James
May-17-2005, 10:12am
Sweet foursome Bill!

JD Cowles
May-17-2005, 11:49am
geez, those are real purdy bill. one of these days...

keithd
May-17-2005, 12:01pm
Stunning mandolins Bill - wow. What's the top wood on the third from left?

Thanks,

Keith

PaulD
May-17-2005, 12:06pm
Those are sweet, Bill! What's the top on the 3rd from the left, or is it 2nd from the right... guess it depends on your politics? Redwood?

That "bass furniture" looks like it's going to light up under shellac too...

Paul Doubek

oldwave maker
May-17-2005, 1:35pm
thanks, from the left, Ukranian spruce, western red cedar(the 1880's telegraph pole), curly redwood, adirondack red spruce. All topwoods thanks to Bruce Harvie except the cedar which I got from Peter White (who helped Peter O make that first mando) who got it #from David Birkedahl when he died a quarter century ago. David got it from his grandfather who had been a lineman in wyoming.

Lee
May-17-2005, 2:02pm
Bill, did you make the bass too, or just doing the shellac for someone??

stevem
May-19-2005, 11:10am
Ok, not the world's greatest instruments, and only 1 mando, but I still love em'. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #My four amigos.

1)Ruby 2)'36 Martin 0-17, '96 Flatiron A, '97 Martin D-1

keithd
May-19-2005, 6:21pm
Steve - they look pretty darned good to me, especially the Martin 0-17 and the white face.

Bill - the redwood top is really cool; if it's not burl, how do you cut the board to get the curl? I love the rakish angle to the grain, too. I looked (listened?) to your excellent soundpage (http://www.zianet.com/bussmann/sound.html) but didn't see (or hear) any redwood tops there. Being in Northern California, it has special appeal...

Keith

ShaneJ
May-19-2005, 6:33pm
Hey Steve, you ought to try to talk Bill out of the "dog house" for the white lab! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Mandopickr
May-23-2005, 12:01pm
Don't y'all wish you had one of these in your backyard?

Mandopickr
May-23-2005, 12:03pm
Note the one on the left thats not ripe....the rest are ready to pick.

oldwave maker
May-26-2005, 3:41pm
Keith- you'd have to ask Spruce about the curly redwood, I think he said he salvaged it from the reject pile at a shingle factory, quartersawn for sure.
Lee- I traded a watermelon for the last unfinished Birkedahl bass body, made shortly before he passed away. I attached a neck I had originally built years ago for the elvis bass. Sprayed homestead premixed dark shellac diluted to a 2# cut, added a touch of red mahogany and dark maple transtint to red up the mix and some of the homestead shellacwet flowout additive (thanks for the tip, Mr Brock). Used my new porter-cable hvlp gravity-feed gun, works great, and I wont even bother to rub it out.
Heres the result, with Dons birdseye, Bobs blackface, and the free-range goldtop to add spice.
yes, thats a painted-toenail sandal-shod endpin prosthesis....

mandoryan
May-26-2005, 5:26pm
Very cool Bill! I love the black top and the gold face mandos. Heck, they're all awesome looking.

Scotti Adams
May-26-2005, 5:37pm
..very nice guys..everything looks real good...I esp. Like Bills bass with the shoe sticking out at the bottom...

neal
May-27-2005, 9:41am
The mandolins, of course, love 'em all. But Stevem's 0-17 brings out a sweat on my forehead and a longing in my heart. Love those small bodies. Steve, I've got a '37 00-17 at the mechanics, can't wait for it's return. It's not as nice looking as your's though.

Yonkle
Jun-17-2005, 12:05pm
Not a real big grouping, but I made all 4.
Here is "JD" #1 A5, #2 F5 #3 F5 and #4 F4

Yonkle
Jun-17-2005, 12:08pm
Frontal view: May sell #1 and #3 ALL Shellac Finish

ShaneJ
Jun-17-2005, 3:31pm
JD, those are truly beautiful mandos. I really like the color and finish - said it before. Why didn't you just sit them down in the grass and lean them on the stone? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

WireBoy
Jun-17-2005, 9:53pm
why? the stone and grass look a bit damp to me.

Yonkle
Jun-17-2005, 10:01pm
[QUOTE]Why didn't you just sit them down in the grass and lean them on the stone?
Good Idea Jennings, that could give them that "vintage" look! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Yes it was a bit damp, just after it rained the sun came out and the lighting was pretty good. JD

danb
Aug-05-2005, 5:53pm
'03, '17, '22

Michael Gowell
Aug-05-2005, 7:40pm
Dan - I was surprised to see that your '03 has no inlaid pickguard - every Gibson mandolin before about '08 that I've ever seen has an inlaid pickguard. #What's the story?

danb
Aug-06-2005, 2:20am
The one the number after it is owned by a friend, also no inlaid guard. Mine's probably refinished (maybe by gibson circa 1910), his definitely is not.. it's an interesting batch, quite possibly the first with recurved tops too. I suspect it was one of the first batches of instruments where they went from hollow neck (no neck block) design to the bent-sides + neck block design. Why that meant no inlaid pickguard though, that's a mystery. At some point in it's life it had a clamp style guard (probably 1910 hardware again, only one clamp scar). Darryl's made another one for me that I keep tyring to talk him into shipping over http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

The tuners (handels) have stubby little posts, and stamping on the plates that match other old ones.. the tailpiece cover has a hole in it like others around the same serial number.. the case is odd in that there is no accessory pocket or "feet" on the back side of it, but it's definitely original.

Here's A model 3264 (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/perl/show_mando.pl?3243), also with no inlaid guard. a few before it *does* have one, a few after does as well. Mandola 3063 (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/perl/show_mando.pl?2890) is owned by a friend, and is a hollow-neck.

More datapoints eagerly sought http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

danb
Aug-07-2005, 5:05pm
6...

mandoman15
Aug-07-2005, 6:41pm
nice grouping dan, what maker/year on theat cyllinder back??? looking good.

danb
Aug-08-2005, 2:53am
1917 vega 10-string.. you can actually see "Vega" in the soundhole in the picture http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

JEStanek
Aug-08-2005, 7:38am
Where does he get all those wonderful toys?
-Jack Nicholson as the Joker in Batman (1989)

mandoman15
Aug-13-2005, 8:19pm
Where does he get all those wonderful toys?
well being a super administrator has its perks... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

danb
Aug-14-2005, 4:41am
Actually the current fleet has reached naval sizes as I'm finishing up a CD.. those aren't all mine!

Big changes a-comin' as the Catch-and-Release Mandolin truck keeps on drivin'

mandoman15
Aug-24-2005, 4:49pm
which one's your favorite mando...i know they're all different styles but what do like best about your grouping...

danb
Aug-24-2005, 5:41pm
The snakehead is the best all-rounder.. the red/orange-ish f4 is the mellowist.. the 3-point has the most snap to it..

mandoman15
Aug-29-2005, 8:22pm
i was at a phishphans dwelling last night and we had all the mando's out we didn't get a pic because the camera was dead but here's the list
2003 gibson a-9
95 johnson f
1891 washburn bowlback
2005 campfire
fender fm62se
irish tenor banjo
weber sweet pea

we just sat around staring at them and took our time deciding which mandolin to play...MAS is such a wonderful disease http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Darryl Wolfe
Sep-12-2005, 2:33pm
Here's an interesting shot I took this weekend

Weymann model 25, Orme Howe and Weymann Model 20

Darryl Wolfe
Sep-12-2005, 2:36pm
and another

Darryl Wolfe
Sep-13-2005, 1:31pm
Here's another

mandopete
Sep-13-2005, 2:16pm
What, no scrolls?

Bob DeVellis
Sep-13-2005, 3:53pm
Darryl - Er, ah, that's "Howe-Orme." It's looking fantastic, by the way, as are all the others. Great shots, too. As long as things re getting around to Howe-Ormes, I'll submit this one of my mandolin and mandola:

Darryl Wolfe
Sep-14-2005, 7:48am
Fabulous Bob..thanks for the correction...I dont read the label much..ha


I love these/those things..I snagged what appears to be an off brand knock off on ebay yesterday http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

olgraypat
Sep-14-2005, 10:13am
Very cool looking. For the unitiated, how about some description or explanation about the Howe-Orme? It indeed looks like a "little guitar."

bluesmandolinman
Sep-14-2005, 3:25pm
sometimes the low ends just do fine

Kay - Supertone - Harmony

Bob DeVellis
Sep-14-2005, 8:25pm
I haven't updated this in ages, but there's information about Howe-Orme here (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/d/rdevelli/The%20Elias%20Howe%20Co.htm)

buckhorn
Sep-14-2005, 8:49pm
these ar my first three tries. the first took more than a year. the second took 9mo and the third about 3mo..the first has a fur top and the others are spruce.all are maple everything else. i have 4 others in different stages