Master Crowley's Reel

[8STRNG]

Does anybody have the tab for master crowleys reel?I have heard this tune on youtube mostly from the cafe song of the week group but I cant find the tab.Please help?

[Paul Kotapish]

No tab, but:

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/sheetmusic/mastercrowleys1.gif

[8STRNG]

No tab, but:

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/sheetmusic/mastercrowleys1.gifYeah I wish I could read notes but I cant thanks

[sgarrity]

If you're looking to learn Celtic tunes being able to read notation is a huge asset. Remember this is fiddle music so notation is abundant. Mandolin tabs are very hit and miss of this kind of music.

[Andrew B. Carlson]

I'd never heard of this song before. I was hoping for a mandolin version of Mr. Crowley by Ozzy Osbourne.

[sgarrity]

Roger Landes does a great version on the 'zouk on his Dragon Reels recording.

[8STRNG]

If you're looking to learn Celtic tunes being able to read notation is a huge asset. Remember this is fiddle music so notation is abundant. Mandolin tabs are very hit and miss of this kind of music.Not very interested in celtic tunes but this master crowley is a very interesting tune sounds almost rockish but not quite.Hard for me to label it.Although learning notation would be benaficial in any genre.

[Don Grieser]

If you can't find tab, you can get software that'll let you save YouTube videos to your computer. Then QuickTime will let you slow the videos down. That should help you figure it out. It's a really fun tune to play.

Reading notation is a worthwhile skill to pick up too.

[Rob Fowler]

Hi,
Though you said you've seen the Master Crowley's thread on the SAW group I thought I'd post the link here (http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=360) for others, instead of having to search the SAW group.

I'm not that great at reading notation either but reading it is a lot easier using an ABC converter like ABC navigator which you can download for free here (http://abcnavigator.free.fr/abcnvgt.php?lang=eng) and play the ABC file (a couple of examples on the SAW thread for this tune) at whatever speed is comfortable for you to learn it at. This really helped me learn this great tune.

For whatever ABC file you decide on just copy and paste it into the program and it brings the notation right up and you can play it as a midi file.

Hope this helps!

[TDMpicker]

This was a song of the week in the social groups.
http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=360


Attached is a tab.

[Spencer]

I think this is ok. From what I could read, the first note is a B, the file was not too clear, and I don't know the tune. If its a Csharp, just change the 4's to 6's. From tabledit. Hope the attachment works.

My version of Tabledit lets me print a pdf file, then you don't need the program.

Spencer

[8STRNG]

Thanks to everybody.And a special thanks to TDMpicker that was the excact version I was looking for.

[CelticDude]

I learned this tune in D-minor, which I think is a bit easier on mandolin. I don't have tab though, just the abc (notation).

[Randy Smith]

Anyone with ideas on the who/where/what's of the printed version in two sharps as opposed to the natural one? Is either considered the more common key?

[Dave Reiner]

Crowley's #2 is also known as Shark's Favorite (see The O'Neill Collection) and Miss Patterson. A good research site that helps with alternate names and sources is http://www.ibiblio.org/keefer/index.htm

I learned Crowley's in Em long ago, but Liz Carroll played it for me in Dm in the '70's (tore it up, too :-)

Dave

[mandocrucian]

Now, pair the tune up as the instrumental interlude for Ozzy's http://foundingfather1776.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/aleister-crowley1.jpg
"Mr. Crowley".

[Coffeecup]

Anyone with ideas on the who/where/what's of the printed version in two sharps as opposed to the natural one? Is either considered the more common key?

It would probably depend upon where you're playing it, or with whom. The Session (http://www.thesession.org/) , which appears to be the source of Paul's score, has it with two sharps. Normally I would say that key is D major as the tune finishes on D but on that site it is described as being in E Dorian. I would have thought if that was correct the tune would finish on E.

The keys for much of Irish music are dictated by several instruments that aren't capable of playing all keys. G (one sharp) and D (two sharps), their relative minors (Em, Bm) or related modes seem to be most common.

[CelticDude]

It would probably depend upon where you're playing it, or with whom. The Session (http://www.thesession.org/) , which appears to be the source of Paul's score, has it with two sharps. Normally I would say that key is D major as the tune finishes on D but on that site it is described as being in E Dorian. I would have thought if that was correct the tune would finish on E.

The keys for much of Irish music are dictated by several instruments that aren't capable of playing all keys. G (one sharp) and D (two sharps), their relative minors (Em, Bm) or related modes seem to be most common.

E Dorian is a modal key of D major; many people might call it E Minor, although, strictly speaking E Minor refers to the Aeolian mode. You can find more details online, especially the names of all 7 modes, but if you take, eg., the key of D, but start and end on a different note, you have a different mode. BTW, the key of D major, started on the D, is the Ionian mode. Start on the E, and you have E Dorian, which is minor because of the flat third. So E Dorian would be written with 2 sharps, the same as D major. Dorian is a fairly common mode in Irish music.

What this means is that I was not, strictly speaking, correct to say I learned it in D minor; I learned it in D Dorian, a mode relative to C major.

DWP (not intending to be obfuscatory...)

[Rob Gerety]

So in D Dorian - Dm is the 1 chord?

[CelticDude]

So in D Dorian - Dm is the 1 chord?

Yes, it is. And, for reasons I don't understand, the other chord is C, the 7th (with the occasional B-flat for fun...) Similarly, in E Dorian the chords are Em and D (with C in there for fun).

[Coffeecup]

Understood regarding the relationship between E Dorian and D major, but this tune as shown in post #2 finishes on D and sounds resolved there. If it were actually in E Dorian wouldn't it sound resolved finishing on E?

[mandocrucian]

Some of you guys are reading this tab far too literally. Not all notes are created equal!

I doesn't end on D. The low D note is simply a pickup note feeding into the low B which is the 1st note of the repeat.


"original"
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phrase ends at first note of the repeat
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or phrase ends on the E note
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here is the stripped-down, unsyncopated last measure; clearly resolving to E:
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or....
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As far as guitar accompaniment chords, there are two equally valid options, either resolving the progression in the last half of the final measure, or giving the tune the "circular" treatment where it continues back into Bar 1. (You know...the type of tunes you can have difficulties ending in a jam.)

D..........Em.........Em
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D....................Em
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