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Don Christy
Jun-04-2008, 6:52am
Hi Folks,

Sorry for cross posting, but wasn't sure the tenor and builder threads are visited by the same people.

I bought a vintage 1932 Martin 0-18T that arrived yesterday. I have a couple days trial period and need help with the decision.

It has an undisclosed crack on the side that starts at about the waist of the bass side and wraps around the lower bout to the end pin. The crack looks stable and may have been repaired as there's a little overspray and polishing visible.

The tenor sounds really great. It has several cosmetic issues (plugged jack hole, scratches, etc). There's also a small crack on the back that seems stable.

Except for the long crack in the side, all the issues were disclosed.

I've currently paid $2,500 and it's sold on consignment.

My questions:
- how much would it likely cost for a luthier to put a couple of cleats in to make sure the cracks remain stable?

- would this type of crack drastically impact the value of a "player"? While I figure a '32 Tenor is somewhat collectable, this one is more of a player. No where near mint, but it sounds great.

- would it seem reasonable to further negotiate the price since this crack was undiclosed?

Thanks for the help.
Don

Pete Martin
Jun-06-2008, 11:26am
- would it seem reasonable to further negotiate the price since this crack was undiclosed?
Yes!!

mrmando
Jun-06-2008, 3:39pm
Glory be, for a player I think you've overpaid by $1,000. Definitely renegotiate that puppy.

Don Christy
Jun-06-2008, 4:45pm
Glory be, for a player I think you've overpaid by $1,000. Definitely renegotiate that puppy.
I'll certainly renegotiate. How did you arrive at the "overpaid by $1,000" amount?
Don

johnl
Jun-06-2008, 4:52pm
I've seen them go on eBay for around $1200-$1500. I would expect to pay more going through a dealer, but $2500 for one in 'player' condition seems rather steep. Anyhow, if it sounds great and plays great, it's hard not to bite the bullet.

Don Christy
Jun-06-2008, 4:55pm
Still undecided. Negotiating now. It really sounds great, so it's a hard decision. Hopefully he will take some off and we can still strike a deal.
Don

johnl
Jun-06-2008, 5:02pm
It seems like tenor guitar prices have jumped way up in the past year (and probably due to interest generated here and other message boards!).