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DryBones
Nov-30-2007, 12:57pm
Is it just me or does that chick constantly screaming through the songs ruin the cd for you too? I can't even listen to it any more it's so annoying.#http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Kevin Briggs
Nov-30-2007, 1:08pm
Nah, I kind of like it. It makes it seem like it was a much "bigger" gig. I like listening to CDs with audience energy. It's one of the CDs that got me into bluegrass and mandolin, and it is still one of my favorites.

sunburst
Nov-30-2007, 2:07pm
I still love that "album", and yes I did finally get the CD version.
I wish she would have "shut up", the album would have been better without her input, but it doesn't put me off of the album.
I kind of hope she is the one who can't listen to the album because of hearing herself. It would sort of be "poetic justice". http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

mandolooter
Nov-30-2007, 2:09pm
yes it would John...lol!

AlanN
Nov-30-2007, 2:30pm
Duffey was in fine form that/those night(s). His remark, after someone dropped a glass, was classic - "Get down there and sop it up!".

Among many gems, his solo to Grandfather's..er..ah...Timepiece was hip and pure Duffey.

sunburst
Nov-30-2007, 3:25pm
"The only award I got was from a state trooper..."

Brian Aldridge
Nov-30-2007, 3:58pm
This is funny that this topic was brought up, because I was listening to the CD just a couple weeks ago, and did think the screaming woman was a bit over the top, and thought she probably cringes a bit when she hears it today. It didn't ruin the record for though, not by a long shot. It is a great recording, and as Alan said, full of Duffey magic.

F5GRun
Nov-30-2007, 4:20pm
Its not to bad to me. I love it when he drops the pick off of his "social finger". The screaming is not as bad as a live version of Casey Jones by the Grateful Dead where some guy in the front is going "WOOO HOO" after every line...anyone else know the version im talking about?

Woody Turner
Nov-30-2007, 10:43pm
[I]"There are also some disturbing aspects to this set. The patter is often feckless and self-indulgent; perhaps 'ya hadda be there.' And, in the audience are the seemingly inevitable shriekers. There is at least one of these who is absolutely inexcusable; one can only wish that Starling had invoked his considerable surgical skills [to cut out the distraction]... "

--From the liner notes to the album, no less

re simmers
Nov-30-2007, 10:52pm
It's one of the best recording projects ever. I'd prefer it without the woman screaming, but it's still a "must have." Yes, I finally got the cd a few years ago.

Salty Dog
Dec-01-2007, 1:10am
I didn't mind the screaming female - that's what you get with live performances, but what I did mind was when Rebel eliminated "Grandfather's Clock" in the CD version. Tom Gray finally gets a Bass break and what do they do - scratch it. I complained several years ago to Dave Freeman and he hinted that they might release a new CD version with the entire LP contents but, to my knowledge, that has not happened. Alas, my turntable took as dive so I cannot easily reproduce it myself.

AlanN
Dec-01-2007, 6:12am
That is interesting about GC being left off the CD, which I do not have. Another classic tune on there is C&O Canal line. I listened to that album so much I hardly need it, I just rewind my memory and hit the play button http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

That original SS lineup was hard to beat. When Starling left and Phil joined, they were still great, but in a different way, and they had another lead instrument. The first times I caught them was in Tenafly, NJ and at the old Waterloo Village bg fest, 1979-1980 or so. I was scairt to talk to Duffey http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Tim
Dec-01-2007, 6:16am
There is a CD version with Grandfather's Clock.

Woody Turner
Dec-01-2007, 11:19am
"One semi-technical note: this completely remastered CD reissue of Live at the Cellar Door restores the tune 'Grandfather's Clock' to its rightful place in the set list." #--Again, from the liner notes, which go on to say that GC was deleted to save 3 minutes on the previous CD.

DryBones
Dec-01-2007, 9:11pm
I got my copy from eMusic and GC is on it.

Willie Poole
Dec-01-2007, 11:29pm
That screaming lady is what got Duffey to talk to the management at The Birchmere and said, "Do not have any talking while we are playing"..I know a lot of people that have been warned and some that have been asked to leave because they were talking while the band was playing...If any of you have ever played in such a place it`s a dream come true, where you can hear yourself without having to blast the sound system at near full strength.. The louder you play the louder they talk.....Willie

Salty Dog
Dec-01-2007, 11:38pm
Thanks folks for the update on "Grandfather's Clock" - that's what Dave Freeman promised but later checks of County Sales did not list it - perhaps they just didn't update the website description. #I finally stopped looking.

ricardo
Dec-02-2007, 4:29pm
"...wanna' hear my Eric Clapton lick?..."" RIP #JOHN - Thanks for the great music....and memories. #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif

mandolirius
Dec-02-2007, 5:15pm
<RIP #JOHN - Thanks for the great music....and memories.> #

No kidding. A band-mate asked about doing "Brother John" from the "Baptising" album and it's thrown me into a whole "John Duffey revisited" phase. First, I learned his break (classic Duffey) for the song and now I'm digging out all my old Duffey, even the CG stuff on vinyl. John lives on!

Salty Dog
Dec-03-2007, 12:23am
Mandolinius, don't forget the two Smithsonian albums - they really define the early CG band.

mandolirius
Dec-03-2007, 1:28am
<Mandolinius, don't forget the two Smithsonian albums - they really define the early CG band.>

Agreed. I thought the live one really gave a good feel of what it must have been like seeing them live. One of the better live albums around, now that I think of it. It's called "On The Road" for anyone who's wondering. Worth picking up, if you like that old bluegrass stuff http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Tom Mullen
Dec-03-2007, 2:44pm
The lady screaming in the SS show reminds me of the guy (or jerk) whistling on the Johnson Mtn Boys Live CD. The idiot must be thinking..."hey that's ME whistling like a Blue Jay at the end of each song and during Eddie's kick off on a song."
I guess that is the mentality of some people.

Salty Dog
Dec-04-2007, 11:27pm
We used to have a fellow that followed our band and played the spoons so loudly that the stage mikes picked him up. #We hesitated to say anything as he was a friendly fellow that followed us everywhere. #Finally, at an outdoor show, he stopped early in the performance and we were told that some people in the audience told him rather forcefully that they came to hear us, not him. #We haven't seen him since so I must regretfully assume that he came to hear himself, not us.

jim simpson
Dec-04-2007, 11:50pm
"Finally, at an outdoor show, he stopped early in the performance and we were told that some people in the audience told him rather forcefully that they came to hear us, not him".

F5GRun
Dec-04-2007, 11:52pm
Grandfather's Clock? or Grandfather's Time Piece?

Salty Dog
Dec-05-2007, 12:45am
F5GRUN, I think it depends on who's introducing the song since my record player is broken, I have to depend on memory but I think "Time Piece" was the way I remember Duffey introducing it. #How's that for an "old guy" who hasn't been able to play the song for 10+ years?

Landgrass
Dec-05-2007, 12:44pm
The way I heard it was that once, when introducing the song, he left the "L" out. Since then he always used "timepiece". http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

AlanN
Dec-05-2007, 12:47pm
oh, that is so 'Duffey' http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif