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CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:17pm
Here are some pics of my Herwiga Liuto Cantabile I won on e-bay. It needs some work but is in pretty good shape considering its age.

A Liuto Cantabile is a 5 course Mandocello with a high E course (CC GG DD AA EE).

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:19pm
Front

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:20pm
End with tail piece cover off.

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:21pm
Some of the frets are loose. The markers are the 15th and 17th frets.

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:22pm
The tuners are a bit worn.

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:23pm
Label, I couldnĺt find a serial number anywhere.

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:25pm
Bowl

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:26pm
Bowl 2

CraigF
Nov-21-2007, 8:27pm
V shaped neck.

Eugene
Nov-21-2007, 10:36pm
Beautiful. You are a fortunate soul, Craig.

Neil Gladd
Nov-22-2007, 6:38am
I'll second that. Congratulations on a fantastic acquisition.

Fliss
Nov-22-2007, 7:33am
I'll third it http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Congratulations, Craig, it looks like a beautiful instrument.

Fliss

markishandsome
Nov-22-2007, 12:50pm
Neat! What is the scale length?

CraigF
Nov-22-2007, 1:41pm
Thanks guys. It was a great find.

Scale is about 23.5".

labraid
Nov-22-2007, 7:05pm
Looks to be beautiful workmanship. Eccentric bowl shape, very interesting. I'm especially in awe of those machines -- the way they seem to be made so simply -- being one who wishes he could make his own keys. So simplified, as if you could take a stamped backer, and choose how many holes you'd like, 6-string, 8-string, 10-string, trim the blank, install the keys, and you've got instant tuners. This has me thinking now... (I'm moving out of the city finally. I can now sand cast, stamp, and smith!) Thanks for sharing, Craig.

Eugene
Nov-22-2007, 8:49pm
Rodgers (http://www.rodgers-tuning-machines.co.uk/), the king of customized tuning machines. Their basic style is patterned after the classic Baker machines made in England in the early-mid 1800s.

The bowl shape is, of course, a riff on the mature Roman-style compound curve.

CraigF
Nov-22-2007, 8:58pm
Thanks for sharing, Craig.
Your're welcome. There is some discussion on it in the "Bowlbacks of Note" thread (starting on page 141 ) in the Classical forum if you're interested. Everyone wanted pics so here they are.

Eugene
Nov-22-2007, 9:27pm
Craig, have you heard any of the solo music Calace wrote for such beasts?

labraid
Nov-22-2007, 10:01pm
Thanks for that link, Eugene. Rodgers... Who knew? In days when globalisation is such the buzzword, someone who mires for the days of old has found something new to lust after!

CraigF
Nov-23-2007, 12:27am
Craig, have you heard any of the solo music Calace wrote for such beasts?
No, I haven't heard any. I knew he wrote some. Do you know of any recordings of such?

Eugene
Nov-23-2007, 9:31am
Calace recorded a bit with the instrument himself. Orlandi recorded one of the preludes on:

Orchestra di Mandolini e Chitarre "Citta di Brescia." 2000. Manodlin & Japan. Nuova Era, CD 7348.

I was going to list the liuto works from the Calace catalogue, but I don't seem to have it in the computer from which I am writing. Soon...

CraigF
Nov-23-2007, 8:04pm
Thanks Eugene. I'll check it out.

Eugene
Jan-14-2008, 4:44pm
I promised this a long time ago. Sorry for the oversight, Craig. Liuto-specific excerpts from the Calace catalogue (the prices are from 2003 or 04, so anybody with newer should feel free to comment):

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02 METODO PER LIUTO
Liuto cantabile acc.Mi,La,Re,Sol,do

n 12 Accordi e Scale EU. 5,50
n 85 Parte prima EU. "
n 86 Parte seconda EU. "
n 87 Parte terza EU. 8,00
n 88 Parte quarta EU.11,00

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06 MANDOLINO E LIUTO
(per concertista)

n 70 Marziale EU. 8,00
n 71 Largo EU. 6,50
n 72 Rondo' Scherzoso EU. 8,00

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02 LIUTO SOLO
(accordo Mi, La, Re, Sol Do)

n 14 Fiorellini di Siepe EU. 5,50
n 34 Fantasia Capriccio EU. "
n 65 IV° Preludio EU. "
n 89 VI° Preludio EU. "
n101 Mattinata EU. "
n102 VII° Preludio EU. "
n103 Minuetto EU. "
n104 VIII° Preludio EU. "
n110 IX° Preludio EU. "
n114 Gavotta EU. "
n115 Piccola Serenata EU. "
n116 Barcarola EU. "
n118 Aria con accompagnamento EU. "
n121 Josephin (Gavotta) EU. "
n128 Gavotta all'antico EU. "
n140 Souvenir de Shangai EU. "
n148 XIII° Preludio EU. "
n152 XVI° Preludio EU. "
n180 XVIII° Preludio EU. "

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07 LIUTO E PIANO

n150 3° Concerto (3 tempi) EU.19,00

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09 T R I O

n 77 Sonata in Sol+ B.MarcelloEU. 8,00
(mandolino, chitarra e piano
n143 Overture Genova EU.16,00
(mandolino, liuto e piano)
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Keep in mind that anything involving "mandola in sol" or "mandoloncello" would work too, no adaptation required. Including those involves almost all Calace's chamber music.