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mrmando
May-24-2004, 4:06pm
"Mandolin Shrinivas," the artist formerly known as U Srinivas, and his brother U Rajesh are touring the United States, giving concerts of Carnatic ragas on twin electric mandolins, accompanied by violin and percussion.

Frustratingly enough, there doesn't seem to be a single, central Web site where one can look up all the tour dates. They played Austin on Friday night; I think there are some East Coast dates coming up next (e.g., Boston & Philly). But you sort of have to poke around to see whether the tour is coming to a city near you.

I found the Seattle and Portland gigs (June 4 & 6, respectively) here:

http://www.rasika.org/

Might try to make the Seattle gig. Would love to see a review from anyone who's caught a show on this tour.

Disclaimer: I know bugger-all about Carnatic music and would have to enjoy such a concert purely on an aesthetic level.

delsbrother
May-24-2004, 4:33pm
You have heard the music, though, right? If you haven't give me a PM and we can work something out.. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

BTW it's evidently common practice for Indian musicians to take on the name of their instrument as kind of a "stage name" - it's not as stuck-up as it might sound. His website though...

OTOH, he needs a few more years before he can be called a Maestro.

Spruce
May-24-2004, 5:06pm
"Mandolin Shrinivas has often been compared to some of the world's greatest prodigies like#Sir Yehudi Menuhin, Beethoven, Sir Isaac Newton, Picasso, Madam Curie, ... "

Hmmmm.......

michaell
May-24-2004, 5:53pm
In this case, however, he really is great...

mrmando
May-24-2004, 5:53pm
I've heard the "Dream" CD with Michael Brook. Would like to get my hands on "Dawn Raga" sometime.

I believe Spruce saw him with Remember Shakti, no?

taboot
May-24-2004, 6:53pm
I'm *there* for the Portland date, it's a bike ride from my house... I'll be sure and post a review, to the best of my ability. I love North and South Indian music, although my ear isn't as tuned to the qualitative differences as some... Thanks for the heads up!

Taboot, Taboot,

Christian

Spruce
May-24-2004, 6:54pm
"I believe Spruce saw him with Remember Shakti, no?"

Yep...
As much as I like John McLaughlin and Shakti, I'd really like to see him play his own stuff...
I might try to make it down to Seattle for that one...

Love to see a mando player who compares with Madam Curie... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

mikeomando
May-24-2004, 10:16pm
Anyone know where to find any other tour dates? Hoping he comes to Chicago...

John Flynn
May-25-2004, 10:05am
His website though...
OTOH, he needs a few more years before he can be called a Maestro.
He had a quote on his site some months ago that said, "When experts heard Shrinvas play, they wondered if they were listening to just a prodigy, or a god..." I don't care how great his playing is, it is still eclipsed by his ego.

mrmando
May-25-2004, 10:37am
I'd be surprised if Srinivas himself is responsible for what's said on that Web site. Just because he attracts sycophants doesn't make him egotistical. Besides, isn't the music supposed to be an act of pure religious devotion (for the player, if not the listener), devoid of self-interest?

mrmando
May-25-2004, 10:44am
Anyone know where to find any other tour dates? #Hoping he comes to Chicago...
Ouch! Looks like he was there May 16 (http://sangeetham.com/bboard/quest.php3?submit=yes&qid=5313&forid=10).

Toronto's on the 28th...

John Flynn
May-25-2004, 11:23am
I'd be surprised if Srinivas himself is responsible for what's said on that Web site.
It's his website. Either he is responsible for it or he is irresponsble.


Besides, isn't the music supposed to be an act of pure religious devotion (for the player, if not the listener), devoid of self-interest?'
Say what? Give me a #######' break!

mrmando
May-25-2004, 12:34pm
Hey, Johnny, that's what I understand about the way Hindu musicians practice Carnatic music. (I'm obviously not talking about all music in general.) There are also some obvious cultural differences here with respect to the sort of hyperbolic claims that can be made on a Web site. I'm not saying I agree with it all, but it seems pointless to judge the fellow using Western standards.

delsbrother
May-25-2004, 12:56pm
Amen! Er, um, yeah. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

John Flynn
May-25-2004, 1:03pm
it seems pointless to judge the fellow using Western standards

Well, I hear you, but I spent several years studying aspects of Hindu philosphy (I was going through a phase, let's not go there, LOL!) and I met some folks with some really big egos, but what I see on the site it does not jive with anything in my experience. So I thought, well, let's find a comparison. So I visited Ravi Shankar's site and his daughter's site (she is a heck of a player also and not that far off in age from Shrivnas). There was not a hint of that kind of self-puffery on either of those sites. Also, the Shrivnas site is in English, so it is obviously intended for our ears. Furthermore, the site is pretty sophisticated site, almost artistic, in all other respects. The sites I have seen directed at the Hindu culture tend to be in Hindi and tend to to be very cluttered and commercial, not what we would think of as sophisticated in terms of content. Just MHO.

mrmando
May-25-2004, 1:18pm
This sounds familiar -- has this comparison been made before? It would appear, then, that Ravi Shankar is a lot more savvy about how to promote himself to Western audiences (or at least his "people" are more savvy). There's no doubt that the Srinivas site is trying to hit a Western audience (hence the references to Beethoven, Isaac Newton, Marie Curie et al.), but it seems to be doing so with a transliterated, culturally inappropriate approach that's missing the mark in some respects. I just get the impression that Srinivas himself doesn't care one way or the other.

And one man's "sophisticated" is another's "annoying" -- I'm not a real big fan of content that's captive to whiz-bang Flash windows. Flash is like a kid with progeria -- it gets old really quick.

taboot
May-25-2004, 2:50pm
I'm tending to agree with mrmando on this one, I think that he (or whoever is promoting him) is trying real hard, but doesn't have the resources or cultural capital to do it in a way that will really be effective in a western context. Reading his website gives me the same feeling that I get from reading a technological manual that's been translated literally from the original Japanese, if that makes sense. You know, like when they say that the bass boost on your mini-disc player is useful for "swirling the music in your head."

In any event, I have yet to hear this fellow, and I'll withhold judgement until I see him play.

Taboot, Taboot,

Christian

delsbrother
May-25-2004, 3:47pm
You know, like when they say that the bass boost on your mini-disc player is useful for "swirling the music in your head."
My favorite quote was the one about emandos having more "sustenance" than acoustic ones.. Talk about "Lost in Translation." http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


In any event, I have yet to hear this fellow, and I'll withhold judgement until I see him play.

Christian

I'm sure we're all speaking with tongues firmly in cheek here.. This is just music, after all.. Can you imagine what Indians on "Carnaticmandolincafe.net" would say about Big Mon? Or Jimmy Martin? Or Grisman?

"Aiiiieeee! No sustenance!!" LOL

In any event, Srinivas is good. Lightning fast, with incredibly intricate phrasing and rhythm. But it IS a different, non-Western form of music. Don't expect bluegrass, and don't expect him to "sound" like a mandolin. It sounds like what it is, a 5 string short-scale electric instrument that is NOT tuned in fifths. (In other words, it sounds like an alternate-tuned electric guitar)

I agree with Bruce that I'd love to see Srinivas live doing "real" carnatic music instead of the fusion of Remember Shakti.. After seeing that VCD of Srinivas and his brother, SEEING him as he plays is as interesting as HEARING him on record. Anyone know if the tour is hitting So Cal?

mrmando
May-26-2004, 10:46am
Couldn't find any California dates.

Boston has already happened (May 14).

Here's Raleigh, NC on May 29:
http://www.cvnc.org/Calendar.html

If you find any other dates, post 'em here.

taboot
May-26-2004, 10:49am
I love Indian music, and wouldn't expect it to be at all like bluegrass (which I tend to find grating,) and I'm always excited to hear the mandolin going different places. I've never really had the guts to work with alternate tunings, though I'm starting to get really interested in it. Psyched to hear how another player works it...

Taboot, Taboot,

Christian

Spruce
May-26-2004, 12:22pm
..."and wouldn't expect it to be at all like bluegrass (which I tend to find grating,)"

Isn't it supposed to be?? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

taboot
May-26-2004, 6:54pm
Hah! LOL!

Christian

mrmando
Jun-05-2004, 3:08am
Tonight's Seattle show was fantastic, even for a Westerner like me. Rajesh and Srinivas are both accomplished players, but Srinivas gets better tone and is the more fiery improviser. The boys' technique is out of this world, and I don't think I've ever heard two mandolinists play more perfectly in time with each other. Sounded like one instrument, even on the tricky ornaments (I don't know the correct term) that are one of the hallmarks of Indian music. I can't tell you the names of the ragas or compositions, but there was plenty of variety in tempo and feel, so I didn't get bored even though I didn't know what was going on. I was impressed with the mridangam (tuned drum) players as well; the violinist was fine but at something of a disadvantage because he was only mic'd, not plugged in. Met Srinivas after the gig, very approachable, nice guy. He even promised to check out emando.com. I didn't see Bruce there.

Anyhow, if you're up for something a little different, try and catch one of these gigs (Portland is the only one left that I know about for sure).

jmcgann
Jun-17-2004, 5:42pm
Srinivas- one of my favorite musicians in the world!

RolandTumble
Jun-19-2004, 1:48am
Portland was, indeed, the last show of the tour (they mentioned that at the show).

Truly stunning, even for one (such as I), with very little familiarity with Indian music....

worldmuziq
Feb-17-2011, 11:41pm
http://www.kennedy-center.org/explorer/artists/?entity_id=67850&source_type=B

U Shrinivas is playing on March 1, 2011 6pm EST at the Kennedy Center, WashingtonDC for the Maximum India show. You can watch this live on their website

[URL="http://http://www.kennedy-center.org/explorer/artists/?entity_id=67850&source_type=B"] March 1, 2011 6pm EST

mrmando
Feb-18-2011, 4:50pm
Any information on a tour or other dates? Or is the Kennedy Center show a one-and-done?