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Soupy1957
Jan-13-2007, 3:30pm
Ok, so Bills' guitar player, (from an old Grand Ole Opry clip) is capo'd to a Bflat, .....and plays the song as if it were in the Key of G.
When I play the opening chord as Bill does, (11-9-6-7) and so forth....then he gets to the words "...way down, in the blue ridge mountains....."
What finger positions are used for the chord on the word "down"http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?? He doesn't appear to move far from the opening chord finger position.
I know about the 6-8-9-0 chord (E Major?) in the other parts of the song, but other than the opening chord (BFlat?) and the E Major, what's the OTHER one? (finger positions)
-Soupy1957
Peter Hackman
Jan-15-2007, 9:14am
Obviously, you mean B natural.
(and 6-8-9-0 would be F#7, the dominant of B, but I seriously doubt
that open e is there)
Looks to me he's moving two fingers back one string,
i.e., down one fifth, to catch the e-g#-e form, possibly
with the b unchanged on top. Do you hear it? I don't.
So, details aren't really THAT important.
ourgang
Jan-15-2007, 9:27am
If he's playing in Bb the I IV V chords would be:
Bb - Eb - F
ourgang
Jan-15-2007, 9:35am
Just looked at the youtube clip and they are in B not Bb. When Monroe goes from B to E he simply moves his fingering up one string - same fingering, if that makes any sense. The E chord would be a three finger chord.
Jim Broyles
Jan-15-2007, 9:47am
Yes, the song is in B major. The chord in question is a 9-6-7-x E major chord.
f5loar
Jan-15-2007, 12:04pm
Sure wished I knew what you guys are talking about. I've been playing bluegrass over 40 years and never ran across a
9-6-7-x-E while taking pickin'. It does however remind me of my Calculus II days at Clemson University and I didn't understand that either!
Jim Broyles
Jan-15-2007, 12:28pm
f5loar, are you serious? You never ran across a 9-6-7-x E? Watch the video we're talking about (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtgKZfQvtVM) and you'll see Bill play one.
Russ Partain
Jan-15-2007, 2:32pm
Funny, that looks like Bobby Hicks on Banjo!
Jim Broyles
Jan-15-2007, 3:14pm
Funny, that looks like Bobby Hicks on Banjo!
It is.
evanreilly
Jan-15-2007, 4:36pm
Bobby Hicks also played bass as a BGB; that would be a good pic to have. Who has one?
Soupy1957
Jan-15-2007, 5:56pm
yea, that's the right video, and I'll accept that I got it wrong and it's a B Natural start chord...but I wasn't askin about the E Major chord..I got that...it's the other one that's got me stumped..the video camera on that clip goes to a face shot right at the point of the chord I want.
-Soupy1957
ourgang
Jan-15-2007, 6:12pm
Try 6- 8 - 9 - x. I don't know if this makes an F# or not, but it sounds right.
Jim Broyles
Jan-15-2007, 9:35pm
Soupy, on the word "down" he's playing the E. There are only three chords in the song. B, E and F#. The F# is 6-8-9-x. This is the shape Bill used a lot for his V chord. If you look at the Uncle Pen video on youtube, you will see him use the same shape in the key of A. Bobby Hicks plays fiddle instead of banjo on that one.
I bought the VHS tape when it was offered in the back of BU.
What is interesting is the guitar player, who in the clear video
can be seen responding to Bill. #I really like his guitar playing.
With his bass runs he is a great rhythm player and probably
exactly what Monroe wanted behind his music. # The guitar
player is also a banjo player. #I forget his name now, but he
is "the man" with those accent notes. #
Jim Moss
FWB
Soupy1957
Jan-16-2007, 5:56am
Thanks, everyone!!
-Soupy1957
MadMax
Jan-16-2007, 8:31am
I believe the guitarist is Jackie Phelps.
mingusb1
Jan-16-2007, 9:19am
Did Monroe always sing this chorus solo?
Maybe that's why the guys I am playing with are having to really work to find harmony parts...
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Jmoss
Jan-16-2007, 10:14am
My god... #
So this is what happens to old Bluegrass Boys
like Jackie Phelps ?
They end up like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUT0QqZU4dg
That's show biz I guess...
Jim Moss
FWB
AlanN
Jan-16-2007, 10:34am
Some would say that is what bluegrass sounds like
f5loar
Jan-16-2007, 4:38pm
Jim, No denying that Jackie was the best at whatever he set out to do. I suspect he made more money doing that on HeeHaw then he ever made with Monroe.
I always say, have a second income. #This way you won't
have to resort to this kind of behavior simply to put
food on the table. #Monroe did, he had the cattle and
farming to fall back on. #Buck Owns had real estate. #
I was listening to NPR the other day and they were interviewing
this reporter who said he recommended that people not
provide themselves with a Plan B. #Just go for Plan A
or bust. # This video here shows what can happened if you
follow his plan and things don't work out. #8-|
Jim Moss
FWB
PS: And I thought playing C&W was selling out!
Peter Hackman
Jan-17-2007, 10:30am
Didn't Phelps work as a session musician? Also, both he and Riddle
played with Roy Acuff (Riddle was with Acuff a VERY long time)
which may have meant they did some work for his various enterprises too.
don richards
Jan-21-2007, 12:51pm
I - long ago - had a record(LP) of Jackie Phelps - all instrumentals - Starday Records I think. Jackie used a FENDER JAZZMASTER - he "capo'd-up" a lot - most distinctivly a Merle Travis thum-picker #and as with Merle...a "heavy thumb" player - I loved his(Jackie's) style of pick'n... Moose. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mandosmiley.gif