Schottisches

[David M.]

Played fiddle for a contra dance last Fri. night and one couple requested a Schottische for her husband's 50th b-day. I only know one, Chapman's Schottische that I learned in Danville, KY from Jim Gaskin. Musta worked 'cause they were hoppin and going around in that circle in pairs. Very cool.

Who's got some other great Schottisches that I can hear to learn? Could be mando or fiddle versions, sound file links or post some mp3's. Just think I ought to have more than one under my belt.

I see 3 in the tabs section, one of which looks original, not trad.

Thanks, yall.

[MandoSquirrel]

Found this link via a cafe Classical member, Scroll down the list & there's a section for strathspeys & scottisches:

http://www.nigelgatherer.com/tunes/tab/tab1.html

Hope this helps, I hope to make use of it myself.

[Jim Garber]

I have three old ones at my tune page (http://www.paperclipdesign.com/19ctunes/). Scroll to about 5 sections down.
* Golden Wings Schottische
* Rattle of the Latch
* Silver Crown Schottische


Jim

[John Flynn]

Curtis Buckhannon does a great one, "Sunflower Schottische" right here on the Cafe' MP3s.

http://www.brentrup.com/mandolincafe/buckhannon.mp3

[Bobbie Dier]

Rochester Schottische..... I don't know where you can find a copy .I learned it at a fiddlers convention.

[Jim Garber]

Rochester Schottische..... I don't know where you can find a copy .I learned it at a fiddlers convention.
Sorry, not a true schottische but more of an old time reel.

Jim

[Bobbie Dier]

OOPS! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[evanreilly]

Bill Monroe played the Smoky Mountain Schottische a lot.
The Prairie Ramblers recorded (1937?) the same number, but with only two parts, as opposed to the three-part tune Monroe later played.
Monroe's neighbor as a young child was Tex Acheson, who later played the fiddle with the Prairie Ramblers, and recorded the tune with the Ramblers. I suspect both young men heard the same sources for the tune.

[John Goodin]

I'm friends with the good folks in the band Foot-Notes here in Northeast Iowa. They have that Norwegian-American dance sound down pat. Here's a link to a clip from one of their best schottisches, the Kinne Kulle Schottische, from their CD Decorah Waltz.
http://www.footnotesdance.com/FNMP3cl....che.mp3 (http://www.footnotesdance.com/FNMP3clips/Decorah_Waltz/KinneKulleSchottische.mp3)

Jim Skurdal plays a fine low harmony on his old Gibson A.

John G.

[Graham McDonald]

I have a bunch of Australian Schottiches as dots onmy site at Australian Dance music (http://www.mcdonaldstrings.com/music.html). Two really nice ones are Hackett's and Cosgrove's, but they are all fun.

cheers

graham

[Peter Hackman]

I'm friends with the good folks in the band Foot-Notes here in Northeast Iowa. They have that Norwegian-American dance sound down pat. Here's a link to a clip from one of their best schottisches, the Kinne Kulle Schottische, from their CD Decorah Waltz.
http://www.footnotesdance.com/FNMP3cl....che.mp3 (http://www.footnotesdance.com/FNMP3clips/Decorah_Waltz/KinneKulleSchottische.mp3)

Jim Skurdal plays a fine low harmony on his old Gibson A.

John G.
They have a very nice groove, indeed, but quite a bit removed from
anything I associate with Scandinavian music.

That schottische is very well known and often played in my country,
I've heard it many times and didn't know its name until now!
Kinnekulle is a mountain plateau in SW Sweden.

[allenhopkins]

The original Rochester Schottische is a real schottische, written by William Rulison here in Rochester just before the Civil War (in which, I believe, Rulison was killed), and dedicated to "my music students in Rochester." It is generally played in two keys, D for the "A" part, and A for the "B" part; sometimes the "C" part is played in G, sometimes in D.

The name Rochester Schottische has somehow gotten attached to a reel, I believe found among the Round Peak NC fiddlers. However, we here in Rochester do continue to play the original tune.

[David M.]

Allen, any way you can point me to a sound file of your Rochester Sch.? #or post an MP3? #I'd be interested in hearing it. #or tab...

Digital Library of Appalachia has a Rochester Schott. played mostly on piano from Virginia:

Rochester Schott. (http://www.aca-dla.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/FerrumCollege&CISOPTR=4129&REC=3)

and

Another Rochester Schott. (http://www.aca-dla.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/FerrumCollege&CISOPTR=4117&REC=4)

sound Schottische-like to me. #Allen, is this the one you know?

Dig. Library also has 2 other good ones:

Norwood Schottische (http://www.aca-dla.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Berea&CISOPTR=336&REC=1)

and

"Schottische" (http://www.aca-dla.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Berea&CISOPTR=1858&REC=5)

The "Schottische" is similar to Chapman's that I play. #Hope these links work. #Don't know how to place a MP3.

CLICK "access this item" to download or play in MP3.

[Jim Garber]

Andrew Kuntz lists 4 tunes with that name, all of which are not the same tunes or even related.

Check info out here (http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/ROC.htm).

Jim

[allenhopkins]

David M --
Yes, that is Rochester Schottische as Rulison wrote it, minus the "C" part, and with some changes to the melody.

I would suggest if you want some good info on the tune that you contact Prof. Jim Kimball at SUNY Geneseo. He's done an article on Rulison, and is the one from whom most of us have learned the tune. His home e-mail is ljkim@rochester.rr.com amd his work e-mail is kimball@geneseo.edu .

I would also note that the rhythm in the two performances lacks the little "skip" that most schottisches have. However, undoubtedly both derived from Rulison's composition.

[David M.]

below is a link i ran across yesterday. It's the same Rochester as above.

Rochester Schottische on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9OsmNIyCqs&search=)

he plays it in the video on fiddle. This is pretty cool.

I appreciate the input. Now have a couple more to learn.

[Peter Hackman]

About 38 years ago, when I was playing in a BG band
(of sorts) I brought this composition:

http://www.huthyfs.com/music/schottis.mp3

My friends frowned upon it, saying it's just a schottische, which
to them meant something incredibly corny. However, that remark
stuck and I named the song "shottis på a-strängen'',
that is ''schottische on the a-string''. I don't know to this day
whether it's a genuine shottische or not, but it's quite challenging
to play. It's slower than schottisches are played in Sweden,
in general.

[Steve P]

We used to occasionally use the tune to "If I only had a
Brain" (sung by the scarecrow in "The Wizard of Oz").
Another one is the fiddle tune, "Old Man, Old Woman."
A third one is "Sunflower Dance" (or, "With the Tide
Schottische") composed by Herman Rowland in 1886."Sunflower
Dance" can be found in my ragtime mandolin book listed in
the Mandolin Cafe Publications section (shameless plug).
I've attached a midi file of it--the mp3 file was over 2 MB.

The fiddle tune that I've heard called "Rochester
Schottische" isn't a schottische and is very similar to
another fiddle tune called "Robinson County." #It's
obviously a different tune than the one previously
mentioned by the same name.

[Strange1]

Now you got me curious. A fiddle player I worked with about 40 yrs ago used to play a tune he called Hi Lo Schottische. I remember a little bit of it but not all. anyone heard of it and maybe have a clip or midl? Thanks

Jack

[JeffD]

Rochester Schottische..... I don't know where you can find a copy .I learned it at a fiddlers convention.
Sorry, not a true schottische but more of an old time reel.

Jim
Maybe not, but its such a great tune.

[JeffD]

There is that great French Canadien tune Schotttische du Stockfish - and for the orthodox, I have no clue if its a true schottische, or a faux schottische. It is a good tune.