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Rich Michaud
Sep-28-2006, 5:46am
Skinner snagged another Loar to be sold on October 15 in Boston. The description can be seen at the Skinner website. For those of you in the Boston area, you can play the instruments to be sold on the Friday afternoon and Saturday before the auction. Its a kick to check out the instruments and then watch them go on Ebay on Sunday. There is also a Strad violin that should bring a hefty price given that the last one sold for $3.5 million (a record for an auctioned Strad) at Christie's a few months ago. If anyone wants a desciption of the mandolins for sale after I have checked them out on Friday the 13th, please let me know. The true condition of the instruments is often not readily apparent from the descriptions listed in the catalog. (I have no financial interest in any of the items for sale). Rich

siren_20
Sep-28-2006, 11:19am
Link (http://www.skinnerinc.com/content/showauction.asp?fam=13&type=latest), for those who might be interested.

Tom C
Sep-28-2006, 1:30pm
All I see is some cheap fiddle

mrmando
Sep-28-2006, 3:26pm
Heh, heh...

The catalog goes up on the site 2 weeks before the auction date, so not till Oct. 1.

Anyone know whether this Loar is previously documented?

Rich Michaud
Sep-29-2006, 1:04pm
OK, The Skinner list is up. The Loar is #72206, February 26, 1923, it is noted on the Archive as with a virzi, and was refinished by John Monteleone. There is not much else at the auction for mandos-an A4 (1914) and an early A. There is a mando bass. There are some Martin guitars though and of course that Strad.. Rich

mrmando
Sep-29-2006, 1:29pm
OK, I want the mandobass.

Jim Broyles
Sep-29-2006, 2:38pm
Only $50-70,000.00 (http://www.skinnerinc.com/pdf/365_2.pdf?thisID=151524)

Darryl Wolfe
Sep-29-2006, 2:47pm
I would like to see some better pictures. It has been noted that Monteleone refinished it, but I see something askew with the peghead. It may have been repaired and or rebound. The tunere button are either replaced or they are simply F4 tuners

AlanN
Sep-29-2006, 3:37pm
Looks like that latter, with a plate end encroaching above the scroll.

Rich Michaud
Sep-29-2006, 4:07pm
Am I right that the number 17494 on the mandobass for sale means its a 1914 instument? Rich

molecan
Oct-03-2006, 12:48pm
Hmm, I'm quite tempted to go over and check that Loar out. The auction is about a 15 minute walk from my house.

danb
Oct-03-2006, 1:06pm
Am I right that the number 17494 on the mandobass for sale means its a 1914 instument? Rich
Yes

mrmando
Oct-05-2006, 1:08pm
Items from the Skinner auction are now on eBay, including the Loar (http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190037577953).

DryBones
Oct-05-2006, 2:38pm
OK, I want the mandobass.
Pickers Supply in Fredericksburg,VA has a Kalamazoo Mando Bass in their store window.

mrmando
Oct-05-2006, 3:38pm
Pickers Supply in Fredericksburg,VA has a Kalamazoo Mando Bass in their store window.
Long drive for me. Does it have F-holes or oval hole?

DryBones
Oct-05-2006, 6:12pm
Looks like F holes. Here is the link: Picker's Supply Mando Bass (http://www.pickerssupply.com/PICKERS%20SUPPLY%20RARE%20&%20VINTAGE%20INSTRUMENTS/target34.html)

sunburst
Nov-03-2006, 6:57pm
I would like to see some better pictures. It has been noted that Monteleone refinished it, but I see something askew with the peghead. It may have been repaired and or rebound. The tunere button are either replaced or they are simply F4 tuners
Well, look what showed up at the shop today.
Did some Loars have the tuners in the F-4 position with the convergence toward the nut?
The tuners are just like the ones on my F-4.

sunburst
Nov-03-2006, 7:01pm
Here they are.

Ken Waltham
Nov-03-2006, 7:49pm
Yes, the earlier Loars are canted outwards, and, those are F4 tuners. It had an F4 tailpiece, too.

sunburst
Nov-03-2006, 8:31pm
OK, thanks.
If I only had a memory, I'd have known that. I looked in my Loar pictures folder and found this one that I took of a'22.

f5loar
Nov-03-2006, 11:42pm
But those '22 tuners have the screwed on pearl buttons like later F5 tuners and the one you have do not so they are F4 tuners on a later F5.
I would suspect insomuch as this one has been totally redone they are not original to this F5 and replaced later as the only tuners somebody could find at the time. I'm surprised Montelone has not come forth with more information about what all he did to this one and why.

sunburst
Nov-04-2006, 1:18am
It wasn't the tuners that were making me suspicious, but the drilling pattern of the holes in the headstock. The tuners are obvious replacements.
The owner is going to contact Monteleone and see what he can find out. He's also going to send the pictures I took today to Dan for the archives.