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I just finished these two mandolins, one for a guy in Georgia, but the distressed model will be shown and will be for sale at IBMA next weekend.
Ken. Will you have a booth?
No, Dusty, I won't have a booth. I only have the one new mandolin. Steve Smith will have a couple of used Silverangels at his booth.
Soupy1957
Sep-24-2006, 7:57am
Pity I can't afford them......at least the ones that YOU folks have made. Any sound bites available......"sound" is EVERYTHING!
-Soupy1957
Mark Walker
Sep-24-2006, 8:34am
Soupy - Doug Edwards has some sound clips of his Silver Angel around on the Cafe'. #If you go to the 7th post in this one (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=12;t=33384;hl=doug+edwards) , you should be able to hear how #99 sounds!
Soupy1957
Sep-24-2006, 8:59am
Not bad..........very "tenor" .......wished I heard more of the lower tones to see how the resonance was....ty.
-Soupy1957
Mark Walker
Sep-24-2006, 9:11am
Soupy - I'll email Doug, or you can PM him - I know he's got some 'A-B' sound clips on here where he was contrasting different strings on his Silver Angel, and I believe someone else was playing it on a couple of them. #Anyway, there are other clips of #99 on the Cafe' and I'd bet some have a more comprehensive range of tone and volume.
I believe Jasona and a couple others have clips from their Silver Angels around too... #I know there are a few of Laura Ratcliff's A-style Silver Angels.#
Doug's F5 sounds great; my latest is a bit more deep and 'woody' - as I think most of the more recent ones Ken has made are. #(IMHO, YMMV!) ##http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #
(I don't have any clips of it as I don't own anything to record it into a format compatible with a PC yet!)
Mark Walker
Sep-24-2006, 9:28am
Soupy - found the 'A-B' link where Doug offered some sound bites (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=8;t=33231;hl=doug+edwards) from his Silver Angel with a couple different sets of strings. #Might give you some more insight into the tone of HIS Silver Angel anyway.
(The sound bites are in the 5th post on this thread.)
Soupy1957
Sep-24-2006, 9:46am
ty
-Soupy1957
Soupy1957
Sep-24-2006, 9:51am
With regard to the J74: Is he using those dampners behind the bridge? I'm hearing a lot of hangin overtones....but sounds nice on the low end.
With regard to the GHS a270s: same nice tone, less overtones.
With regard to the J74old: you can sure hear the aging of the wood.......I'll buy it!
-Soupy1957
Mark Walker
Sep-24-2006, 10:18am
Soupy - I agree with your string observations.
Doug follows this stuff pretty close - he'll probably reply himself soon. I know he put a new tailpiece on his Silver Angel, but I don't know if it has a dampener on it, nor if his A-B of the strings was before or after the new tailpiece.
He may be using some of Steve Stone's overtone grommets, (I do) but I can't say for sure! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Doug Edwards
Sep-24-2006, 5:48pm
Hey,
I just got back from a family campout on Lake Whitney. Weather turned out nice after the front blew through. Great time with the family.
I quit using a Weber wood Nymph after I put the Allen tailpiece on. The felt on the underside of the tailpiece was sufficient to halt most overtones. I do have several clips on my NTB website and Test page of different strings, picks, a a bone saddle. One must consider better players produce better tone, which I am not. The tune at the bottom of the mandolin page(not the tune automatically playing) is played by Rick Curlee of Joshua, Texas. The other mp3's on the site with the group are my SA.
Mandolin Page (http://www.ntbbluegrass.com/mandolin.html)
Test Page (http://www.ntbbluegrass.com/test.html)
bgmando
Sep-26-2006, 12:52pm
My SA F projects really well. In fact, it sounds very different behind the instrument playing it, than it does out front.
Much more chime and volume to the tone out front.
I can lean over it and tell.
But also, I've been in jams where friends have remarked about how loud it is and how great it sounds, when I thought I was just blending into to the general flow.
All instruments have this to some degree. But those that project sound out really well a little more so.
I'm having to learn to trust the instrument more and back off the pick attack and volume some.
Lots low, mid and treble on mine. Even though it's still being broken in and I'm still tinkering with setup.
But one thing I really like is that it has the melodic, bell-like chime sound on all notes.
I'm also hoping to do some string experimentation this winter and see how that affects sounds. Now using whatever DiAddarrio number it is that Ronnie McCoury uses.
bg
Mark Walker
Sep-26-2006, 3:27pm
BGMando - great input. #
I'd be curious as to what MY Silver Angel sounds like. #I don't play anymore, so in April I loaned it indefinitely to a cousin of mine who's in a prominent Bluegrass Band here in West Michigan. #He's got an R2 Silver Angel (#197 I believe) and mine is #231 and he usually plays mine and his 14-year old son Adam (already an excellent picker) plays his R2 on stage and at shows and so on. #
I talked with Adam last week and he said, "Man, your Angel is REALLY opened up! #It's got old strings on it and the tone and volume just blows everything else away." #
Not having heard it myself of late (it'll be a year old in late October) I can only guess on how she's coming around, but out of the box a year ago it had exceptionald tone and volume. #
They said they'll be putting new strings on the mandolins tonight, and both will be at IBMA with my cousins later this week, so watch for it this (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=15;t=28422;hl=silver+angel+ 231) weekend!
bgmando
Sep-27-2006, 6:51pm
I took mine to Winfield with a well-played set of strings on it, a week before the stages opened.
My intention was to change strings after the first weekend.
But it just kept sounding good, so I played the same strings right on through, nine days. Off and on with guitar work, too.
That's a measure of a good instrument for me, when it sounds good no matter the age and shape of strings.