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fatt-dad
May-28-2006, 4:40pm
Is it just me? I really want to know the price point on that 1921 F4. I know the days of $10,000.00 F4's are rapidly approaching (or here). I also know I could never make a serious inquiry. I'm just too curious and would just love to know. . . .
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Greenmando
May-28-2006, 5:09pm
Is it on ebay? I remember only back in 2000 that F4's went for $1000 to $2000. Back when a Loar was only $60,0000 or so. So actually the F4 is gaining quicker now than a Loar.
Gail Hester
May-29-2006, 1:43am
I’d like to know how much that one’s going for also. #My husband and I had a nice 1914 F4 that we sold just a couple years ago for $3500. #It would go for almost twice that in today’s market.
There are allot of F4s being made these days but most are F4, F5 hybrids and I’ve only seen a couple that are intended to be reproductions of the old Gibson F4s. #I’m getting ready to put the neck on the one pictured here. #I’ve tried to reproduce the look and sound of a good old F4, including Virzi. #Time will tell but it seems to me that building an accurate F4 is just as difficult (maybe more) and time consuming than building a nice F5. #I’m not trying to market anything rather just pointing out that the prices still seem reasonable to me on the old one’s compared to having a vintage reproduction made. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/coffee.gif
Adam Tracksler
May-29-2006, 5:00am
I like the sound and feel of my Hamlett #11 better than any vintage F4 I have played.
Let's not forget that the instrument is a Loar period instrument with a Cremona brown finish...one of maybe 200 made in the period experimenting with the color for the F-5's. I believe one went for $15K last year. I don't think you can compare them with a teens F-4. BTW, has anyone tried to find it in the Archives? I can't seem to locate it.
I agree with Gail on building a reproduction F-4, or for that matter any reproduction mandolin...they are much more work than a builder's stock F-5 type instrument. Nice work Gail!
MA link (http://www.mandolinarchive.com/perl/show_mando.pl?3358)
there you go Hans http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
What the? Where did you get that? Page 13 goes from 66925 to 67282. Where 'ya hidin' 67236? # http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Thanks Dan!
Jim Garber
May-29-2006, 1:46pm
So what is the asking price for this one? What is the big secret?
I think that that last on on eBay that went for $15.5 was a fluke. I spoke to the under-bidder and he said he actually went overboard in the heat of the auction. Frankly I wasn;t even certain that that Loar era one was a Cremona finish anyway. The photos looked just like my 1924 which was more reddish.
Jim
Gail Hester
May-29-2006, 2:57pm
Rumor is, the asking price is $10K.
What the? Where did you get that? Page 13 goes from 66925 to 67282. Where 'ya hidin' 67236? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Thanks Dan!
Hmm, do I have a bug? I just typed the serial number into the search box. You can also make a link like so
http://www.mandolinarchive.com/gibson/serial/76547
etc.. enter whichever serial at the end
Ya know, I've never seen that search box! Boy does that open doors.
Thanks again Dan!
Davetnova
May-31-2006, 5:08am
so could this be genuine <a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1921-Lloyd-Loar-Era-Gibson-L4-Artists-Model-Mandolin_W0QQitemZ7419268238QQcategoryZ10179QQ
rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">1921 F4</a>
Can't say without a S/N. Tuners and bridge look right. At $1K starting bid, worth a shot.
When you click the images it goes to the same instrument on a completed auction.. suspicious
Oooh, sneaky...why I don't buy much on ebay any more.
yoods
Jun-04-2006, 10:06am
Check out this thread for more general information on cremona brown F-4's: Link. (http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=27;t=35011;st=0;r=1;&#entry403648)
Mandobar
Jun-04-2006, 4:56pm
acousticmusic.org has a super fine red 1921 f4; it's much
less than $10k. although not cremona brown it is from the estate of the second owner (purchased in 1923) and is in original condition with original parts and case.
http://www.gbase.com/Powered....1511399 (http://www.gbase.com/Powered/GearDetails.aspx?Dealer=48315f15-b6e1-412a-9796-fe5a4cba9e27&Item=1511399)
i've already spent my mando money for the year so someone please buy this!
One just sold at Skinner for $4230..
http://www.skinnerinc.com/asp/search.asp?pg=2&ps=10
lkb3rd
Jun-06-2006, 2:56pm
acousticmusic.org has a super fine red 1921 f4; it's much
less than $10k. #although not cremona brown it is from the estate of the second owner (purchased in 1923) and is in original condition with original parts and case.
http://www.gbase.com/Powered....1511399 (http://www.gbase.com/Powered/GearDetails.aspx?Dealer=48315f15-b6e1-412a-9796-fe5a4cba9e27&Item=1511399)
i've already spent my mando money for the year so someone please buy this!
Gone. I was there ready to put a deposit on it if the first guy didn't take it.