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danielik
Apr-10-2004, 1:38pm
I am playing a Corelli violin Sonata, and I need some help with the terminology. After a series of eigth notes that are to be played spiccato, which I am guessing in mandolin terms might be closest to pizzicato(?) there is a series of eigth notes with the term "segue" over them and no dots. There are no slur marks over them either. WHat does this indicate? In the Giga section, there are some dotted eigth notes with the term "ten." written over them. What does that mean? I'm sure as I play more classical music I will run into these terms and have more questions.Thanks, for any help. Daniel

vkioulaphides
Apr-10-2004, 6:31pm
First of all, Daniel (to undermine the validity of this whole discussion) http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif , all these editorial indications are, well, editorial, i.e. not Corelli's. So, to begin with, take them with a HUGE grain of salt.

Having said that, segue (which literally means "continues") could mean "continue with the same articulation". I cannot tell you definitely without looking at the same page you are looking at. Secondly, "ten." is a standard abbreviation for "tenuto", i.e. sustained to full value, held for the full value of the note, not cut short; this must be accomplished by both the pick stroke AND the left hand holding the string down for full duration.

But, either way, don't sweat it. Corelli sure did not put that gibberish in there, so... the heck with it. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Just make the music sing!

John Zimm
Apr-10-2004, 6:47pm
But, either way, don't sweat it. Corelli sure did not put that gibberish in there, so... the heck with it. Just make the music sing!
That is great advice. Urtext all the way. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

-John.

Ted Eschliman
Apr-10-2004, 8:37pm
That is great advice. #Urtext all the way.
Oh, yeah!
Love them Dunlop Urtext picks! Especially the 1.14 gg...
http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

OdnamNool
Apr-11-2004, 4:57am
I liked your article, mandohack. #And I see that you went with the term, "mandology!" #Cool! #(Wasn't that Bratsche's suggestion? #I forget...) #I printed the article out and will give it an actual try when I get through with this blasted tax rigamarole... #What a pain... # http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

vkioulaphides
Apr-11-2004, 11:05am
To FURTHER undermine the credibility of a supposedly "original" segue marking in Corelli, I must admit that the usual place one finds this kind of indication is on Broadway scores/parts, meaning that the next number follows the current one without break, i.e. in lieu of the "classical" term attacca. Hmmm... Corelli On Broadway...

Which sonata and which edition are you looking at, Daniel?

danielik
Apr-11-2004, 12:17pm
The sonata is No. 5 in G minor, Op.5, No.5 for violin. I printed it off a CD I bought with all kinds of violin pieces. I was hoping to get a similar CD for viola so I could get some more mandola pieces. I guess I'll have to wait till it comes out. Thanks, for the help. Daniel