View Full Version : Amazing mandolin from the 1600s

Mar-15-2006, 3:41pm
boy check this ebay auction http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....ck=true (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7399017286&fromMakeTrack=true)

I allways thought Mr. Gibsonīs creations were fancy....

Mar-15-2006, 4:12pm
yeah, I saw that one the other day...
pretty impressive.

Mar-15-2006, 5:23pm
6 courses, probably tuned like a guitar(octave above), nylon-strung. Lots and lots of engraving. Looked like a turtle to me. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


I'm not sure why he thinks the top has been replaced. This looks like it's carved out of one piece of wood unlike a conventional bowlback.

Jim Hilburn
Mar-15-2006, 6:13pm
But does it have a good chop?

Mar-15-2006, 7:03pm
With that pointy back seam and the apparent heft, it'll probably chop the heck out of something! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Daniel Nestlerode
Mar-15-2006, 7:50pm
Actually, it doesn't look all the well carved. hmmmmm


Mar-15-2006, 10:54pm
This one rounds eBay with great frequency and is discussed every time over in the classical section. #It never sells. #Nope, sorry Glauber; this almost certainly was not tuned an octave above modern guitar; that tuning came in the late 1700s with the mandolino Genovese, and it had a floating tailpiece for stringing with wire. #Also, they had precious little nylon for mandolin strings back in those days; strings would have been gut. #There is some debate regarding whether this would have been considered a mandolin or a soprano lute...or whether it's remotely authentic.

Tony Burns
May-06-2006, 9:57pm
doesnt look kosher to me , would need more than the seller opinion on this instrument , like a professional appraisal , (from a professional ) - even thou the age maybe correct ( or not ) instruments from the early to late 1700's are not as rare as some people believe - tough to prove age !

May-06-2006, 10:09pm
That's one of them pre war models

May-07-2006, 7:25am
I was gonna buy this but bought an F5-G instead.... http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blues.gif

May-08-2006, 9:37am
It's definitely not old. The carving is horrible, clearly done by unskilled labor, and there are no signs of age on the instrument. My guess is it was made in India or the Middle East sometime after WWII, probably much more recently than that. I've seen fake firearms from that area that had similar workmanship.

May-09-2006, 2:54am
That said, I've seen authentic ca. 1600 instruments with similar workmanship. A rather coarse approach to aesthetics is nothing new.