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John Bertotti
Jan-28-2006, 8:55am
So how do I get the tef file into the mac? Whan I click the link it is just jibberish. Thanks John

Pete Braccio
Jan-28-2006, 9:12pm
Hi John,

Hold your Control key down while clicking on the file name. A drop down menu will appear with the option of "Saved linked file to disk". Choose this option and then the file will be downloaded to your Mac. If you have a three button mouse, a right click on the file name is the same as the control click that I described.

The file will be on your Mac as filename.tef.txt. Rename it to filename.tft (click OK when your Mac asks if you really want to do this).

PM or email me if you have any questions.

Pete

John Bertotti
Jan-28-2006, 10:02pm
Thanks Pete, I will give it a try. John

Jim Garber
Jan-28-2006, 10:36pm
John:
I am not sure what you are asking. You need TefView to read the files after you download them.

Check out the Tabledit site (http://www.tabledit.com) for more details.

Jim

John Bertotti
Jan-28-2006, 11:57pm
I did not know that JIM. Thanks is the program worth the 55 bucks? Thanks John

Pete Braccio
Jan-29-2006, 12:09am
Hi John,

You can just get the free TefViewer program if all you want to do is see and print the files. The full version will let you actually score a song.

Pete

grandmainger
Jan-29-2006, 7:16am
John, here's the quick and dirty answer:

- You need TEFView, NOT TablEdit. TablEdit is a paying software. TEFView is the free viewer for TEF files. The link to the file for MacOS is this: http://www.tabledit.com/download/tefview.sit.bin.
- The reason why you see the gibberish in your web browser is because the browser does not understand that the TEF file is to be opened by TEFView, so it treats is as a text file and displays the encrypted content. You need to save the file to your hard disk before you can open it in TEFView.
- If you are using Safari, press the option (alt) key and click on a link to download it to your desktop. Or you can control (ctrl)-click on the link and select Save/Download to disk. Find the file on your Hard Disk, then double click on it.

It's very easy... much easier than understanding the paragraph I've just written! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Germain

John Bertotti
Jan-29-2006, 9:18am
I would like to score a song and at this price it seems reasonable. At least more reasonable for a novice then some of the other song writting software out there. Thanks all I'm in there now. John


Ok I am of to read the web site, I can't seem to set it up for mandolin, guitar only at this point.

Ok I downloaded it again the carbo demo version. Seems ok now. Thanks again John

Huda
Feb-02-2006, 8:21am
OK, quick question: does anybody REALLY do all of the Aonzo scales?

He says to go up and down the neck 3 times. That's 6 times over the neck! Don't you get bored?

What are you supposed to think about while you are doing this exercise 6 times over the neck?

Jim Garber
Feb-02-2006, 8:34am
Huda:
Those are exercises and they are not supposed to be interesting but to build muscles. I had a roommate years ago who was an avid guitarist and he used to play scales while watching TV.

Somer of Carlo's other exercises are real fingerbusters. Radim Zenkl also is a big one for exercising. He also recommends buying tight rubber gloves and cutting the tips off the fingers (of the gloves!) and playing with one of those on your left hand to warm up. I tried it. Not easy but I suppose would build finger strength.

I am of the feeling that music should be fun tho and don't exercise enough. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Jim

Avi Ziv
Feb-02-2006, 8:41am
Huda - you're supposed to think how lucky you are that your instrument does not have 50 frets http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

But more seriously - Steve Lacy (Jazz sax player) was once interviewed about his practice routines. One thing he does is play inervals. He would write down intervals on small pieces of paper and put them all in a bowl. Then, he would pull out (one at a tmie) and proceed to play that one simple interval over and over and over and over....until it got so boring he thought he would get mad. The trick was to push through that and get "to the other side". Lacy discovered that at some point it started getting interesting again. I'm not saying that everyone can/should do this ritual, but Lacy's observation was that there is Good stuff to discover in seemingly simple (even boring) things, if you keep at it long enough. #He is an extreme case, but I get his point.

Avi

PaulD
Feb-02-2006, 5:31pm
I think it depends on what you're after. If you just want to learn tunes, get to a certain skill level, jam with folks, and have fun, you're probably just fine learning melody lines and chords. If you want to be able to play by ear and improvise, then I find interval and scale exercises are useful (not that I'm good at improvisation, but it's helped). If you want to play different styles fluently, add to your technique repertiore, and maybe take folks' money for your playing, then I think perfecting your playing through constant and different types of practice is pretty necessary unless you're some sort of prodigy. I don't think there is any field of study that does not have it's boring parts, but the discipline of working through that is what separates the good from the excellent. I wish I were more disciplined!

Paul Doubek

Avi Ziv
Feb-02-2006, 5:49pm
Paul - I am all for a balanced approach but I was intrigued by Lacy's obsession-leading-into-insight experience. As for myself - I play mostly Irish Traditional music in sessions and so melody is king. I need to do some more work on harmony though.

Avi

PaulD
Feb-02-2006, 6:38pm
Avi,

Even though improvisation is not emphasized in Iris Trad, the ornamentation and timing really adds to the music. That's something I could drill on in addition to learning new Celtic tunes. It's not mando content, but it's related; I've been wanting to work on my fiddle bowing and ornamentation for Irish and Celtic tunes... every time I listen to Kevin Burke, Natalie MacMaster, or our local Kate McLeod I hear things I wish I could fluidly incorporate. All it takes is time and work! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

pd