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glauber
Sep-29-2005, 1:03pm
Hello,

I play regularly with a piano player; our repertory can be loosely described as "jazzy" (http://www.glaubernet.com/music/20050927/) (or at least improvisational).

Anyway, i normally play flute, but i'm beginning to introduce mandolin into our schtick. Mandolin and piano present intereting challenges, because both instruments are percussive, and if the beats are a little off it can sound messy. Flute and piano or mandolin and accordion, are much easier combinations. But i think mando+piano has some potential.

Are there any examples of mandolin and piano that i could listen to?

Thanks,

glauber

grandmainger
Sep-29-2005, 1:07pm
My favourite duet album: David Grisman on Mandolin and Denny Zeitlin on the piano. It's called 'New River'. Amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005J72J/). It's fantastic... Some really good music, especially Dawg Funk.
Germain

glauber
Sep-29-2005, 1:08pm
If figures, that if anyone would have done it, it would have been the Dawg... Thanks! I'll check it out.

g

AlanN
Sep-29-2005, 1:24pm
Old Dave Apollon recordings too

mad dawg
Sep-29-2005, 8:48pm
Howard Frye's Gypsy Mandolin prominently features piano throughout the CD.

Hondo
Sep-30-2005, 2:48pm
There's a fun piece on the Bela Fleck, Edgar Meyer and Mike Marshall CD (I can't remember what the CD is called, but the tune is "Sliding Down") that has piano, mando, banjo, guitar, mandola, bass and I don't remember what else. The three musicians move from instrument to instrument during the piece. I saw them do it on PBS a few years ago. Pretty amazing.

grandmainger
Sep-30-2005, 3:15pm
That would be "Uncommon Ritual". It's a good CD, though it verges a bit too much on the experimental for my liking. "Sliding down" is excellent though, as are a couple of other tunes on there.

phynie
Sep-30-2005, 5:32pm
Mad dawg, I have been searching for "Howard Frye's Gypsy Mandolin" for years. Where did you find it?! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Martin Jonas
Oct-01-2005, 6:59pm
There's quite a bit of classical repertoire for mandolin and piano, such as the Beethoven sonatinas. I've been to a great mandolin/piano recital by Alison Stephens, but unfortunately she hasn't recorded in that configuration. As far as recorded music is concerned, I greatly enjoy Rapsodia Napolitana (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001Z52PC/qid=1128210280/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl15/102-8935901-2417769?v=glance&s=classical&n=507846) by Ugo Orlandi (mandolin) and Maura Mazzonetto (piano). It's a cheap CD as well.

Martin

SternART
Oct-01-2005, 7:05pm
Statman has piano in his quartet.......was listeing to The Hidden Light
this morning....Andy plays both clarinet & mando on this one.

John Goodin
Oct-01-2005, 7:56pm
By chance I came across the Howard Frye album available as a CD from Smithsonian Folkways. Here's the link:

http://www.folkways.si.edu/search/AlbumDetails.aspx?ID=2440

John

glauber
Oct-01-2005, 10:54pm
Many thanks! You guys are great.

Daniel Nestlerode
Oct-01-2005, 11:45pm
Emory Lester does a short piece called "Pale Rider" whcih includes mando and piano. It's a great tune.

Daniel

Gary S
Oct-02-2005, 6:37am
Bob Wills had piano(Millard Kelso) and mandolin(Tiny Moore) in his band. This is some of my favorite music. Tiny swings like crazy... Gary Silverstein

phynie
Oct-02-2005, 4:04pm
thanks for the lead john!

glauber
Oct-02-2005, 7:38pm
Yeah, no kidding, i bought that one too. I got Dawg's the Gypsy one, and the Classical one. This should be enough to get me going.

glauber
Oct-04-2005, 9:51am
My favourite duet album: David Grisman on Mandolin and Denny Zeitlin on the piano. It's called 'New River'. Amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005J72J/). It's fantastic... Some really good music, especially Dawg Funk.
Germain
Ooooo dawggie! Those guys are good! You're right, it sounds fantastic.

The liner notes say Denny Zeitlin wrote the soundtrack for Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Which version, i wonder? The original one is one of my favourite movies ever. Scared the heck out of me the first time i saw it.

glauber
Oct-05-2005, 2:55pm
I think i'm getting it... had a lot of fun last night. It's not that hard, really. The piano provides a great huge wash of sound, and the mandolin floats on top of that with lead lines and contrapunctual strumming. The mandolin range is high enough that it doesn't clash.

jefflester
Oct-05-2005, 5:47pm
The liner notes say Denny Zeitlin wrote the soundtrack for Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Which version, i wonder? The original one is one of my favourite movies ever. Scared the heck out of me the first time i saw it.
The remake:
Denny Zeitlin @ imdb (http://imdb.com/name/nm0954419/)

250sc
Oct-06-2005, 10:56am
glauber,

There is a lot of nice piano/mando stuff on Joe Cravens Django Latino.

I don't think there should be any problem with blending the two instruments together.

glauber
Oct-06-2005, 11:24am
There is a lot of nice piano/mando stuff on Joe Cravens Django Latino.
Is that the one that features Ricky Scaggs? http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

No, you're right, my fears were unfounded. It works very well.

mad dawg
Oct-06-2005, 1:00pm
Mad dawg, I have been searching for "Howard Frye's Gypsy Mandolin" for years. #Where did you find it?! #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
I think I got my copy at Amazon, but they no longer have it in stock. However, I just did a quick google, and these two sites appear to have it available:

worldmusicstore.com (http://www.worldmusicstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3354)

Smithsonian Folkways Collection (http://folkways.melia.com/search/AlbumDetails.aspx?ID=2440)

Christian McKee
Oct-06-2005, 7:44pm
And for those of us that are a leeetle bit tired of Grisman's dominance of the mandolin scene, the new Jazz Mandolin Project cd entitled "Deep Forbidden Lake," is mandolin, piano, and string bass. Jazz standards and some familiar popular tunes in unfamiliar ways. Highly recommended. www.jazzmandolinproject.com, no financial interest.

Christian

Peter Hackman
Oct-15-2005, 2:58am
And for those of us that are a leeetle bit tired of Grisman's dominance of the mandolin scene, the new Jazz Mandolin Project cd entitled "Deep Forbidden Lake," is mandolin, piano, and string bass. Jazz standards and some familiar popular tunes in unfamiliar ways. Highly recommended. www.jazzmandolinproject.com, no financial interest.

Christian
Acoustic mandolin?

harmon
Oct-17-2005, 9:20am
Mike Marshall and Jovino Santos Neto "The Music of Hermeto Pascoal: Serenata" is a great album of mando piano duets.

glauber
Oct-17-2005, 9:34am
Mike Marshall and Jovino Santos Neto "The Music of Hermeto Pascoal: Serenata" is a great album of mando piano duets.
Sounds good.

Christian McKee
Oct-18-2005, 10:57am
Yes, Deep Forbidden Lake features acoustic mandolin. It includes tunes by Django, Neil Young, Ornette Coleman, Horace Silver, Tom Waites and others. There's a very favorable review on the jazzmando website.

Unless I'm remembering wrong, Ricky Scaggs didn't play on Django Latino, but it's a *brilliant* record.

Christian

glauber
Oct-19-2005, 3:24pm
Man oh man, my friend and i are coming up with a piano and mandolin version of "Ode to Joy" (Beethoven) that is getting mighty pretty! I think i may call it The Joy of Mandolin.
http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Peter Hackman
Oct-20-2005, 11:24am
Mike Marshall's Gator Strut has Barbara Higbie
on piano on a few cuts. There is also som
mandolin (both by him and Anger) on
Higbie-Angers' wonderful Tideline album

glauber
Oct-20-2005, 5:05pm
I got the Gypsy Mandolin, BTW, from the link posted above (Smithsonian Folkways). It's interesting, it's a one-off copy of the CD (must be out of print). You also get a xerox of the liner notes.

I don't know what's with that CD. If you just think of the selections, it's definitely Schmaltz... but the artistry is so good, that it's a joy to listen to. Very good.

mandobob
Oct-21-2005, 10:57am
I'm pretty sure Johny Young recorded some of that great Chicago blues mando with just piano, could be wrong.

pick up the world
Oct-22-2005, 11:56am
emory lester plays too the mandolin and piano. isn't he?!http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Gotterdamerung
Oct-22-2005, 12:12pm
Mike Marshall's Brazil: Duets which has just been re-released, has a number of piano, mandolin duets.

Joel Glassman
Oct-22-2005, 12:17pm
Simon Mayor has recorded with piano