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Shortjourneyhome
Sep-29-2020, 4:47pm
Wondering if anyone has any experience with the felix? I currently use the red eye, but I want to start blending. Felix is a significant price increase is it worth it? Or should I just use the red eye with a mic blended through the mixer? Thanks!

Also, I have k & k twin, if that helps.

mando-bob
Sep-30-2020, 7:58am
I use Felix, RedEye and some other preamps playing mandolin, guitar, bouzouki, banjo, dobro, Weissenborn ...
The Felix is an awesome unit packed with great features, transparent and true sound, highest built quality...
I really like the RedEye for simplicity of use and great sound, the only feature missing to me is a sweepable Low Cut filter. Essential when using soundboard transducers like K&K in boomy guitars, even more essential when using internal mics. If you play mandolin with a dual source (PU/mic) system, maybe this would be not so much an issue
My first choice when buying a blender/preamp these days would be Sunnaudio MS-2. Great sound quality, packed with features, priced significantly below the Felix. One feature that I love especially and which no other blender/preamp that I tried offers: By hitting the solo boost button only boost the PU channel. That will keep you from feedback hell. I love my MS-2.
I use a K&K / DPA 4061 combo on my mandolin.

sounds_good
Oct-01-2020, 12:28am
In my opinion let the mixer do the mixing.

I guess you mean blending mic input with a pick up.
You want to exercise some caution doing that. There
are typically time of arrival differences roughly half
to one ms. That can result in so called destructive
and constructive interference of the two channels
primarily in the frequency range 500 Hz to 2 kHz.
You cannot correct that by equalization. In the
studio you can carefully de-skew the channels in
the mix, but probably not live. Musicians typically
get caught up in a song or audience response and
move around, changing the distance from the mic
to the instrument.

Well, that is my opinion.

Perry
Oct-16-2020, 7:05am
Wondering if anyone has any experience with the felix? I currently use the red eye, but I want to start blending. Felix is a significant price increase is it worth it? Or should I just use the red eye with a mic blended through the mixer? Thanks!

Also, I have k & k twin, if that helps.

I am a huge Red Eye fan And used one for many years hundred gigs or so But in the never ending quest for better I decided to try a grace design unit

So I bought a Grace Bix. It was OK but had a certain hi-fi sound to it and not quite the warmth of the redeye to my ears especially on mandolin. (I double on guitar)

I ended up buying another Red Eye Twin and to my surprise they added two new features.

1) a 9v plug for power supplies....Which I love because I always seem to forget to change my battery at the wrong moment

2) Dspecial switch on channel B for exactly your needs....to select the intended use for that channel interal mic or pick up

Barry Canada
Oct-16-2020, 7:14am
Has anyone compared these and A B’d them with the Radial Tonebone PZ pre Acoustic Pre amp?
I have been using this for pre amp for blending the piezo and magnetic pickups for my Phoenix Jazz.
It sounds great to me! It has no battery option however!

Perry
Oct-16-2020, 7:39am
Before the redeye twin I had Radial Tone Bone for another hundred gigs it’s a fine unit. Too many buttons for me I find the Red Eye to be stupid simple, consistent (perhaps due to the lack of adjustments) and a great match for my K&K pick-ups.