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Mark Gunter
Feb-08-2019, 5:46pm
A few pics of "young" folkies for anyone interested in any of these guys.

The requisite mandolin photo - Jethro Burns with Steve Goodman

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Bill Monroe appeared at Newport Folk the year this photo was taken, sorry, don't have the date or a photo of Bill there. Here's Kris Kristofferson flanked by James Monroe (left) and Jerry Jeff Walker (right)

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Glenn Campbell, Jimmy Webb, Harry Nilsson

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Dylan goes electric, tours Europe ...

Behind Dylan is drummer Mickey Jones, far away faded head of Alfred Grossman (manager), Rick Danko, half of Robbie Robertson's head, Richard Manuel in the black hat ... not sure, but it might be a non-bearded Garth Hudson with dark glasses in the far rear.

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David Lewis
Feb-08-2019, 6:11pm
Fabulous! Thanks mark.

Tavy
Feb-09-2019, 6:52am
Cracking stuff!

ChesterJones
Feb-09-2019, 7:29am
That’s one young Silver Tongued Devil there! Great pics. You took all these?:disbelief:

Mark Gunter
Feb-09-2019, 9:59am
That’s one young Silver Tongued Devil there! Great pics. You took all these?:disbelief:

No, I sometimes share some of the non-copyrighted photos from Marina Jason. Marina was an act manager and event organizer for numerous big name folk acts, and has quite a collection. Some she took herself, and others she simply collected over the years. There are plenty of grassers and country artists she knows well, along with folk and folk-rock type people, and she has a lot of unpublished photos that she shares with a closed group I belong to. She's happy for us to share them, but pretty guarded about letting people into the group.

Mark Gunter
Feb-12-2019, 6:57pm
Check out Don & Phil, finishing a set at The Bitter End, NYC 1969.

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Mark Gunter
Feb-12-2019, 7:06pm
Leon Russell, Glen Campbell, Waylon Jennings

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Mark Gunter
Feb-12-2019, 7:18pm
Peter Rowan, WSM, Carolyn Hester

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tree
Feb-13-2019, 11:33am
Glen Campbell looks pretty much the same in most photos, but young Leon and Waylon . . . whoa!

Would love to know the year on that photo. Mid-sixties "wrecking crew" vintage I'd guess.

Mark Gunter
Mar-25-2019, 7:57pm
Baez sisters meet the Beatles, 1968

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George Harrison shows some of his jazz chord licks to the Baez sisters while Ringo looks on. L-R: Mimi Farina, Joan & Pauline.

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David Lewis
Mar-25-2019, 8:19pm
These are fantastic photos! Thanks again Mark.

Mark Gunter
Apr-01-2019, 8:18am
Vassar Clements, John Hartford, Norman Blake

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Mark Gunter
May-09-2019, 2:41pm
Woody Guthrie (left) Alan Lomax (right)

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Bill McCall
May-09-2019, 3:46pm
Nice, but you must be really old��

MikeZito
May-09-2019, 6:33pm
Leon Russell, Glen Campbell, Waylon Jennings

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Gee - Leon and Waylon haven't changed a bit . . . I just wonder which one of them was the practical joker that cut Glen's tie in half.

Mark Gunter
Jun-05-2019, 3:28pm
This one interested me because of young Woody Guthrie on fiddle.

L - R:
Sis Cunningham (accordion), Cisco Houston (guitar), Woody Guthrie (fiddle), Pete Seeger (banjo), Bess Lomax (mandolin)

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Simon DS
Jun-05-2019, 3:41pm
Great photos Mark, love the compositions, so good to see that the stars were people! :)

Mark Gunter
Mar-09-2020, 11:03am
I'm thinking about printing this one to hang on the wall!

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MarkusSpiel
Mar-09-2020, 2:32pm
Love that Nancy and Norman picture! Do you have a file and would send it to me? The picture in wall idea is great :)

allenhopkins
Mar-09-2020, 2:37pm
Vassar Clements, John Hartford, Norman Blake

Mark, where was this one taken? I can see Tut Taylor's Dobro behind the mic stand.

One of the best spontaneous on-stage collaborations I ever saw was at the Fox Hollow Festival in Petersburg NY, 1971 or '72. Hartford's Aero-Plain band was there, Clements, Blake and Taylor, and David Bromberg and VT fiddler Alan Stowell joined them onstage. Blake had just guested on Bromberg's debut album, and the whole augmented band was amazing.

Golden memories...

MikeEdgerton
Mar-09-2020, 2:58pm
...Do you have a file and would send it to me? ...

Right click on the image and follow the prompts.

MikeEdgerton
Mar-09-2020, 3:03pm
Vassar Clements, John Hartford, Norman Blake

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John Hartford is playing a Stromberg-Voisenet (Kay) banjo. That I haven't seen.

Mark Gunter
Mar-09-2020, 8:09pm
Mark, where was this one taken? I can see Tut Taylor's Dobro behind the mic stand.

I don't have the exact date or place, but that is indeed the Aereo-Plain band.

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Tut Taylor, Vassar, Norman & John. Unknown man sitting on a cage or trap.

Mark Gunter
Mar-09-2020, 8:13pm
Anybody up for a game of who's who? I can name only five of the folks in this line-up. Who do you see?

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tree
Mar-10-2020, 6:45am
link doesn't work for me

MikeEdgerton
Mar-10-2020, 7:25am
I think the attachment failed.

Mark Gunter
Mar-10-2020, 7:57am
Sorry, here it is (hopefully)

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Tut Taylor, Bill, Vassar, John Hartford looking like Sam, ??, ??, Norman Blake

MikeEdgerton
Mar-10-2020, 9:41am
It's there. Is that a young Mark O'Connor next to John Hartford looking like Sam??

Jeff Mando
Mar-10-2020, 12:20pm
Great stuff, Mark! Makes me feel old, but that's OK.....:cool:

Jim Hilburn
Mar-10-2020, 12:27pm
I think Byron B. behind Vassar.

Mark Gunter
Mar-10-2020, 1:57pm
Those are great guesses. Does look like Berkline behind Vassar, I'll buy that. There might be an easy way to find out if that's Mark O'Connor next to John.

Mark Gunter
Mar-10-2020, 2:23pm
Norman, John and Tut

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NickR
Mar-10-2020, 2:27pm
The unknown man in the photo has taken the bird from the cage and is showing it to the photographer.

V70416
Mar-11-2020, 12:11pm
Love the pic of Norman&Nancy.

Nancy Blake has been inspirational to me in making music an integral part of my life.

june39
Mar-11-2020, 3:46pm
Kenny Kosek maybe

Bogle
Mar-12-2020, 9:29am
Regarding Mark's photo posted on 3/10: The fiddler is not Mark O'Connor but appears to be (as pointed out by june39)Kenny Kosek. Looks like Jack Hicks on banjo and Joe Stuart with the guitar next to Norman.

Mark Gunter
Mar-12-2020, 10:16am
Thanks Bogle & june39 ... I assumed june39 was referring to that photo. I've been discussing some stuff with Mark O'Connor in recent weeks, but he hasn't responded about the photo, so I was thinking that might be a bad guess.

Mark Gunter
Mar-27-2020, 2:18pm
A "To do" list written by Johnny Cash, undated

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Mark Gunter
Apr-06-2020, 1:54pm
A couple more interesting casual folkie pics.

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Gordon Lightfoot, Bob Dylan & Roger McGuinn


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Paul Simon, Leonard Cohen, Keith Richards, Chuck Berry

Louise NM
Apr-06-2020, 10:11pm
What was the occasion for Simon, Cohen, Richards, and Berry being in the same place? Fabulous photo—I love JFK watching over them.

Mark Gunter
Apr-07-2020, 8:43am
I don't know the occasion, Louise. There are many possibilities. I like the joy on their faces.

mclaugh
Apr-07-2020, 10:42am
Looks like this event:

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2012/03/01/chuck-berry-leonard-cohen-honored-at-jfk-library/

tree
Apr-07-2020, 4:00pm
I swear, sometimes I think Keith Richards might outlive us all

rcc56
Apr-07-2020, 4:10pm
And Jerry Lee Lewis might outlive Keith . . .

seg
Apr-11-2020, 7:59pm
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John Sebastian,Bob, and Rambling Jack

tree
Apr-12-2020, 7:05am
And somehow I can't help but see Keith on the back of the Stones album in Dylan's left hand . . .

Mark Gunter
Apr-12-2020, 2:33pm
RIP

Levon and John Prine, Newport, 1993

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Mark Gunter
Apr-12-2020, 2:34pm
Okay, I see Bonnie there, which one is Clyde?

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Jim Hilburn
Apr-12-2020, 2:44pm
There's really only 2 actual hillbillies in that picture.

Mark Gunter
Apr-12-2020, 3:13pm
Well dressed hillbillies, too.

Mark Gunter
May-16-2020, 11:19am
A couple of these kids grew to be famous folkies of the sixties.


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MikeEdgerton
May-16-2020, 5:17pm
Tom and Jerry :)

You can still see who they are looking at their faces even at that age.

Mark Gunter
May-17-2020, 8:39am
Their faces and their relative heights. Me you & Julio.

MikeEdgerton
May-17-2020, 8:45am
Their faces and their relative heights. Me you & Julio.

The only living boys in New York. :cool:

I was shocked that the tall one was that close to the short one's height at that point.

brunello97
May-17-2020, 5:45pm
I was shocked that the tall one was that close to the short one's height at that point.

Wikipedia has AG topping off at 5'9". Relatively tall considering his partner is 5'3".
Both numbers coming as a bit of surprise to me.

Mick

MikeEdgerton
May-17-2020, 7:11pm
I took AG to be taller than that. I guess when you hang with shorter people others will think that. I remember thinking basketball player Dave Twardzik was short. Then I met him. He was much taller than I am but much shorter than his teammates.

Mark Gunter
May-17-2020, 10:38pm
In that old photo, shorty is in the foreground.

NursingDaBlues
May-18-2020, 10:04am
Thank you, Mark, for sharing these terrific images. My coming of age was during the sixties. By 1973, my musical sail had me following the course set by Blake, Hartford, Clements, et al. While these photos don’t necessarily make me long for the “good old days,” they do bring back memories of unforgettable times, journeys, and opportunities.

Mark Gunter
May-18-2020, 2:08pm
Thank you, Mark, for sharing these terrific images. My coming of age was during the sixties. By 1973, my musical sail had me following the course set by Blake, Hartford, Clements, et al. While these photos don’t necessarily make me long for the “good old days,” they do bring back memories of unforgettable times, journeys, and opportunities.

IIRC, you are from my home state of Louisiana and I think we're about the same age. I was a child of the 60's (b.Jan1955) and early 70's. I learned folk & mountain music from my relatives and from my dad's records, he played folk and country on the guitar ... by the time I turned 11, I was swiping my older sister's Elvis records and trying to learn the Beatles on dad's guitar, and a cheap little organ my cousin had swiped from his older sister. We were gonna be rock & roll musicians.

I explored a lot of music, but never far from Folk, Blues, Country, Gospel and Classic Rock. That all goes together for me. I fell into the hippie/beatnick stuff pretty easily when the folk revival was influencing everything.

NursingDaBlues
May-18-2020, 4:37pm
IIRC, you are from my home state of Louisiana and I think we're about the same age. I was a child of the 60's (b.Jan1955) and early 70's. I learned folk & mountain music from my relatives and from my dad's records, he played folk and country on the guitar ... by the time I turned 11, I was swiping my older sister's Elvis records and trying to learn the Beatles on dad's guitar, and a cheap little organ my cousin had swiped from his older sister. We were gonna be rock & roll musicians.

I explored a lot of music, but never far from Folk, Blues, Country, Gospel and Classic Rock. That all goes together for me. I fell into the hippie/beatnick stuff pretty easily when the folk revival was influencing everything.

Yes, my claim to fame is being a simple Louisiana boy. Home was a very small town – not much more than a crossroads – in north Louisiana. I’m just a bit older than you, but it sounds like we have similar influences. My father and grandfather were both pretty good guitar players who thought Ernest, Kitty, and Hank hung the moon, but they still taught me to respect all types of music. I went to a small country church where the old hymnals and gospel quartets gave me something that I could hang my hat on – although I didn’t realize it until a few years down the road. I, too, ventured into different territories in the sixties, which included the usual rock and roll suspects. There were also a couple of Louisiana bands that made me sit up and pay attention like The Boogie Kings and The Gripping Force. But there were others that really influenced me: Otis Redding and Percy sledge were in the mix, as were The Band, Poco, the Byrds, even the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. That music led me to Prine, Hartford, Blake, Clements, many of the Laurel Canyon artists, Old and In the Way, and others who played and sang music that filled my soul. Yep, good memories. Good influences. Thank you for giving me reason to remember.

William Smith
May-30-2020, 3:53am
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This is from the early 1970's when Uncle Gene Johnson was joined by his mando/tenor hero John Duffey-I heard that John was poking fun at Uncle Gene till he heard him play! John had a whole new respect for Uncle Gene!

Darn I can't rotate this old photo-any help?

William Smith
May-30-2020, 4:00am
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This is one from the late 1960's "The Smith Bros from upstate NY/Sugar Grove PA area with My Grandpa big Bill Smith on Uncle Dick's 37 Herringbone and Great Uncle Dick Smith on banjo and a young Uncle Gene Johnson on his new mandolin #75305 Feb. 18th 1924 Loar F-5! Came from the original owner-well to a shop first Stutzmans then to Uncle Gene!

Mark Gunter
May-31-2020, 12:12pm
Thanks for sharing, William, these are great!

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John Duffy & Gene Johnson

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Smith Brothers

William Smith
May-31-2020, 12:49pm
I'll try and find a few more oldies that I have of my family, The one with Uncle Gene and Duffey was when Uncle Gene played with the II Generation-listen to those old records and you'll here some mighty fine mandolin playing!!!

Mark Gunter
Dec-21-2020, 1:52pm
Great picture of LEADBELLY!

Woody Guthrie & Huddie Ledbetter (Lead Belly)
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Bob Bass
Dec-21-2020, 5:56pm
Hi Mark-

I'm pretty sure that's a young Ronnie Gilbert in the lower right hand corner of that Woody & Huddie picture.

William Smith
Dec-22-2020, 8:42am
[ATTACH=CONFIG]190723 Here is Glenn Moore and His Cousins "My Grandpa Big Bill Smith on Mandolin" in 1974 I believe when he lived out in California, Modesto, Grass Valley area.

Mark Gunter
Dec-22-2020, 11:43am
Hi Mark-

I'm pretty sure that's a young Ronnie Gilbert in the lower right hand corner of that Woody & Huddie picture.

Hey Bob, sure looks like Ronnie there, down to the schmaltzy earrings. Quite a beauty there!

Mark Gunter
Dec-22-2020, 11:47am
Here ya go, William:

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Mark Gunter
Jan-19-2023, 11:55pm
The Doc!

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Mark Gunter
Jan-19-2023, 11:59pm
Woody Guthrie with mandolin

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Woody Guthrie, banjolin:

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Woody Guthrie with Burl Ives:

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Another cool banjolin photo, Native American unknown:

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Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 12:07am
Stephen Stills with mandolin:

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Who's on mandolin? Mark O'Conner? I know Jerry Garcia and Janis Joplin, who else do you recognize here? Kind of looks like Frank Zappa hunched over in the back, who knows?

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Jethro, Tom Chapin(?), Pete Seeger and John Prine

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Ralph Rinzler (mandolin) Hazel Dickens (guitar)

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Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 12:11am
You-know-who on mandolin

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With the boys, Woodstock, 1968

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Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 12:31am
Gathering at London apartment of Paul and Valerie Oliver, February–March, 1957, photographed by Paul Oliver.

Top row, left to right: Alexis Korner (mandolin), Bobbie Korner, Beryl Bryden with arm around Big Bill Broonzy, Derroll Adams (banjo). Bottom row, left to right: Ramblin’ Jack Elliott (guitar), June Elliott, Valerie Oliver, Donald Kincaid (a friend of the Olivers), Brother John Sellers.

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Left to right ~ Roger Sprung (banjo), Ralph Rinzler ~ (mandolin), Dick Staber ~ (bass), Hal Glatzer ~ (guitar) , Herb Schotland ~ (guitar), and Peter Rowan in 1964.

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Sam Bush, Bill Amatneek, Mark O'Connor, David Grisman, Tony Rice

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I have no idea who's backing Woody and Cisco Houston on mandolin, nor any of the others ... so who's who?

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tree
Jan-20-2023, 8:26am
[QUOTE=Mark Gunter;1892443]

Who's on mandolin? Mark O'Conner? I know Jerry Garcia and Janis Joplin, who else do you recognize here? Kind of looks like Frank Zappa hunched over in the back, who knows?

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Looks like Bob Weir to me, from the Festival Express escapade across Canada

Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 8:54am
It is Bob Weir, thanks for opening my eyes. I was really late coming to the Dead’s music.

Don Grieser
Jan-20-2023, 10:25am
That looks like a scene from the Canadian cross country train tour. The Band was on that tour. I think it's Rick Danko.

Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 11:32am
That looks like a scene from the Canadian cross country train tour. The Band was on that tour. I think it's Rick Danko.

You’re referring to the guy hunched over in back, right? The photo isn’t very clear. It’s definitely Bob Weir on mandolin, I recognize him now.

tree
Jan-20-2023, 11:47am
As for the others in that Festival Express photo, I don't really recognize them but Delaney & Bonnie and friends participated in that tour and it could be some of them in the photo (I was surprised to learn that Jim Gordon, Sam Clayton and Kenny Gradney were part of D&B&F). The guy in the back with the big hair and the mustache could be Richard Manuel to my eye, but that's a SWAG on my part.

Don Grieser
Jan-20-2023, 11:55am
Another shot of them from The Band's instagram. Definitely Rick Danko. He was jamming with Janis and Jerry a lot in that film.

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Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 12:47pm
Wow! I was totally sold on a wrong identity. The first photo I posted looks nothing like Rick to me, and a lot like Bob. Thanks for the correction, Don.

Don Grieser
Jan-20-2023, 12:54pm
He does look like Weir in the first photo.

Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 1:13pm
I can see it now though, in his posture … specifically the neck and arms. Rick always seemed to be pushing hard when he performed, in the handful of films I’ve seen him perform in. I’ve never seen the film referenced, this photo interested me because there was a mandolin & Jerry & Janis. The hair just appears to be lighter in the first photo.

Ranald
Jan-20-2023, 1:17pm
[QUOTE=Mark Gunter;1892443]

Who's on mandolin? Mark O'Conner? I know Jerry Garcia and Janis Joplin, who else do you recognize here? Kind of looks like Frank Zappa hunched over in the back, who knows?

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Looks like Bob Weir to me, from the Festival Express escapade across Canada

I was going to say the same thing (added: but read on). The movie "Festival Express" shows these folks jamming. That's Ian Tyson with the guitar and 'burns, and Sylvia Fricker Tyson with the headband. Zappa's definitely not there. I think Bill Kreutzman is farthest from the camera. I have the DVD but nothing to play it on, or I'd find out who the others are. Oh, one website labels the picture, "Rick Danko, Janis Joplin, Jerry Garcia, Ian Tyson and Jonathan Taplin jamming on a train." Looking at other photos from the same trip makes me realize that's Rick Danko on mandolin, not Bob Weir. (Jonathan Taplin is, according to Wikipedia, an "American writer, film producer and scholar," perhaps the fellow drinking in the middle of the photo.)

By the way, if you like these musicians, be sure and see "Festival Express" which documents working musicians who otherwise rarely found time to make music together.

journeybear
Jan-20-2023, 1:53pm
You can watch the whole glorious mess of a film of the whole glorious mess of a rolling event on youtube here. (zfUY31lBUgA) I scanned it and didn't see that particular photographed scene. But I think the jam it's from is shown from ~19:00-21:00 - from a different vantage point and a different time than the still. Maybe some can identify more folks through viewing that. I concur with Ranald's assessment - definitely Danko. I thought that might be Richard Manuel seated behind him, but no - he was wearing a beard at the time. That may be Bob Weir's leg on the right. ;)

Mark Gunter
Jan-20-2023, 3:25pm
You can watch the whole glorious mess of a film of the whole glorious mess of a rolling event on youtube here. (http://zfUY31lBUgA) I scanned it and didn't see that particular photographed scene. But I think the jam it's from is shown from ~19:00-21:00 - from a different vantage point and a different time than the still. Maybe some can identify more folks through viewing that. I concur with Ranald's assessment - definitely Danko. I thought that might be Richard Manuel seated behind him, but no - he was wearing a beard at the time. That may be Bob Weir's leg on the right. ;)

Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out when I get back to my room :mandosmiley:

Ranald
Jan-20-2023, 5:57pm
I attempted some detective work by watching "Festival Express" again. I found that many musicians are not named, and others can't be seen even in the footage when they're backing up a singer. For instance, we never see all of Janis Joplin's "Full Tilt Boogie Band" (but then if I were a cameraperson, I'd be loathe to take the focus off Janis). Furthermore, there are numerous roadies, significant others, and festival workers on the train. Even a couple of uniformed CN (Canadian National Railway) employees are hanging out at one jam. So, what I did gather is that the guy with the beer seems to be a keyboard player, though I'm not sure what band he was with. The Zappa-looking lad may be one of Sha Na Na's many singers (what a big group -- how much were they getting paid?). The moustached fella to the right of Rick Danko may be the promoter, Ken Walker. I'm curious about the woman with the dreads. She looks contemporary. It was a rare hairstyle at the time.

J.B., that's not Bob Weir's leg. Another photo shows that it belongs to a bearded man. Bob was clean-shaven at the time. :( For those interested in boots, it may belong to John Till, guitarist and leader of the Full Tilt Boogie Band or perhaps that's Jonathan Taplin. Added: Further research makes me think it's Taplin. See this link:
https://www.facebook.com/JonathanTaplinpublic/photos/a.672641322902561/1868676499965698/?type=3

journeybear
Jan-20-2023, 9:18pm
Yes, well, I was being a wee bit facetious. ;) And yes, it's Taplin. He makes that clear on his facebook page. Here's his photo, better definition.

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Looking at that, I am unable to identify the fellow behind Danko, now smoking a cigarette. And I'm not 100% convinced that's Bill Kreutzmann at the back. But it could be. :confused:

This thread has surely lived up to its billing - a hodgepodge, for sure. A regular, or irregular, miscellaneous mishmash, a goulashy gallimaufry, a patchwork potluck potpourri. :grin:

Ranald
Jan-20-2023, 10:57pm
Looking at that, I am unable to identify the fellow behind Danko, now smoking a cigarette. And I'm not 100% convinced that's Bill Kreutzmann at the back. But it could be. :confused:


I'm not either, though I still think that's Ken Walker with the cigarette.

William Smith
Jan-21-2023, 7:27am
Here are a few from the late 60's, Gramps Big Bill, Great Uncle Dick, Uncle Gene Johnson, Frank Wakefield and others. My old computer got fried and once I retrieve the files I have a load!

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Mark Gunter
Jan-21-2023, 10:48am
Great pics, William, especially like the pics of Frank. Your relatives were having a blast making music back in the day. Very cool.

Mark Gunter
Jan-21-2023, 11:07am
This thread has surely lived up to its billing - a hodgepodge, for sure. A regular, or irregular, miscellaneous mishmash, a goulashy gallimaufry, a patchwork potluck potpourri. :grin:

I'm a folkie at my roots JB, with the inclusion of Country, Gospel, Blues and Old World Trad under the big "Folk" umbrella. I started this thread to share photos that come mostly from the archive of Marina Jason. Her photos included many I had never see before like personal photos and backstage photos. Pictures that may otherwise be difficult or impossible to find. She hosted a group called "Folk Music ~ 1960's to the present" where her pics were shared from her personal collections, friends' collections, and ones she simply found online of interest to her.

Marina was a friend to many of the big names in folk and folk rock. She worked as a manager and publicity agent for many acts in the Chicago folk scene beginning in the 1960s, but her friendships with some of the artists went way beyond the Chicago scene, she was very close to John Hartford, for instance. Really she knew just about everyone in the folk & folk rock music scene.

I guess I'm writing these paragraphs as my little tribute to Marina. She passed away May 4, 2020.

I have accumulated many photos from Marina's collection. I kept ones that interest me for one reason or another. Usually because they contain one or more artists I'm interested in, or they include a mandolin or other instrument that interests me. It is indeed quite a hodgepodge.

MikeEdgerton
Jan-21-2023, 11:22am
I met Roger Sprung about 15 years ago at the New Jersey Bluegrass and Old Time Music Association monthly show. He had watched my band on stage and asked if we wanted to jam and we did. When we were done I asked him his name, he was kind of laughing and everyone was looking at me like I had three heads. I didn't know who he was. He said "Roger Sprung like spring, sprang, sprung." I figured he'd been asked that question before.

Mark Gunter
Jan-21-2023, 11:23am
Portrait sketch of Marina Jason by John Hartford:

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A young Marina

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R.I.P.

Ranald
Jan-21-2023, 11:29am
Portrait sketch of Marina Jason by John Hartford:
A young Marina
R.I.P.

Thanks for sharing these, Mark. Marina was clearly a fine photographer.

journeybear
Jan-21-2023, 11:34am
Thanks for starting this thread and keeping it going. It's been a fun ride.

I also have a couple of friends whose careers in the behind-the-scenes parts of the music business led them to meet all kinds of musicians. They've been doing much the same as you - going through their shoeboxes (figuratively and literally) and posting photos on facebook. That has also engendered many reminiscences from many people. Fascinating stuff.

And I have my own memory of Roger Sprung. He would show up occasionally at a periodically-occurring hootenanny at a house in the country outside of New Haven. No idea why; he may have lived not far from there. My impression of him was that he was a genial fellow and a solid if unsurprising picker. And a relentless self-promoter, passing out notices of upcoming gigs. And yes, that "spring, sprang, sprung" routine. :grin: I think it wasn't until he'd been there a few times that someone tipped me off about his career and with whom he had played. :disbelief:

MikeEdgerton
Jan-21-2023, 12:11pm
...And I have my own memory of Roger Sprung. He would show up occasionally at a periodically-occurring hootenanny at a house in the country outside of New Haven. No idea why; he may have lived not far from there. My impression of him was that he was a genial fellow and a solid if unsurprising picker. And a relentless self-promoter, passing out notices of upcoming gigs. And yes, that "spring, sprang, sprung" routine. :grin: I think it wasn't until he'd been there a few times that someone tipped me off about his career and with whom he had played. :disbelief:

I actually bought one of his learn to play banjo records off eBay a few years ago just to own it. There is another 70's banjo guy from this part of NJ that we see often named Dave Griffiths (D.W. Griffiths). I found his album "Workingman's Banjo" on Youtube recently that he recorded back when that meant something. The mandolin player on the LP was a guy named Andy Statman.

Mark Gunter
Jan-21-2023, 12:22pm
I found his album "Workingman's Banjo" on Youtube recently that he recorded back when that meant something. The mandolin player on the LP was a guy named Andy Statman.

How cool is that?

Mark Gunter
Jan-21-2023, 12:27pm
A few more folkie pics to top off my west coast morning

The Seeger family in Beacon, New York in August of 1958. Left to right ~ Mika, Toshi, Tinya, Daniel and Pete Seeger

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Pete Seeger and Libby Cotten

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Leonard Cohen and Judy Collins

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John Prine with journalist Mike Leonard

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journeybear
Jan-21-2023, 1:26pm
OK, serious hodgypodgy stuff here, centered on Eric Von Schmidt, my good friend, mentor, and bandmate - well, he was more of a guest musician in our jug band, but we did more 15-20 shows together.

There's a long story behind the first two photos, which I've told around here a few times, so I'll spare you this time. (It's worth seeking out, if you like, just trying to maintain focus here.) Essentially, after several - or many - tries, I finally got Eric to a show by Lucinda. His 1964 album, "The Blues Project" (well before the band by that name), had been instrumental in introducing her to the blues while she was a teenager. He was a mythic figure to her. It turned out her bass player (and then-boyfriend) had known Eric while he was living in Sarasota, and had mentored him, steering from a path toward delinquency to music instead. So long story short, we conspired to get them to meet, and this was the night, at the Tarrytown Music Hall, in the Hudson Valley, 10/24/1998. In the second picture that's yours truly in my Righteous Babe Records hat (pre-Café), Eric, Richard Price (bass player), and Thom Wolke, show promoter. He's one of the people I mentioned who's been posting his shoebox contents. In fact, it was through that process that this picture got posted years ago, saying he didn't know who the guy on the left was. A mutual friend did, and said so, and tagged me. Quite a pleasant surprise. So, yes, random connections are one of the key elements of this world.

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Photo #3 is from a gig in England, I think 1965, with Eric on mandolin, Bob Dylan, and maybe Mark Spoelstra on harmonica, right to left. Picture #4 is from the Club 47 Reunion concert at Boston Symphony Hall, 12/28-29/1984. I think that's Jim Rooney on guitar, Eric on harmonica, Maria Muldaur, Geoff Muldaur on mandolin, and Richard Greene on fiddle. That's probably Eric's mandolin. As far as I know, Geoff didn't own one, or at least didn't travel with one, as he'd typically play just a song or two on it, and borrow someone's for a gig. (That's a leap of faith; in my experience, if I go to a jam and don't bring mine, there won't be one.) He borrowed my banjolin once, at a workshop we did together at Winnipeg Folk Festival 1991, and put it in some odd open tuning - including the A strings in a third interval. :disbelief: Eric Weissberg was The Jug Band's utility guy, and when he saw my consternation, he said, "That's his 'Minglewood' tuning. Here, let me fix it for you." He tuned it perfectly in maybe 30 seconds. :disbelief: My running joke for years afterward was that I never had to tune it again, he did such a good job. :grin:

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This picture board is from a presentation organized by his stepdaughter, who still lives in Sarasota. She hosts a picking party every month or so, and I finally managed to get there a few months ago, on my way back from my summer vacation. She gifted me this and a couple other items - a magnificent gift to me, but she was just cleaning house. ;) Notice on the bottom left and center - Joan Baez, from a visit in 1965. Yes, Joan in a bikini. People used to visit him there, as well as at his apartment in Cambridge MA. His hospitality provided to travelling troubadours was instrumental in the successful operation of Club 47 there, the big folk music venue in town from the 1960s on. You name it, they crashed there. Including Dylan. Dylan visited him in Sarasota too, and there is a tape of them jamming and carrying on, in the middle of which is a rough draft version of "Mr. Tambourine Man," its first recording.

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Ranald
Jan-21-2023, 2:25pm
... Thom Wolke, show promoter.

And mandolin player. 'T-Bone" Wolke plays some fine blues mandolin on Guy Davis records.

journeybear
Jan-21-2023, 3:15pm
Sorry, sir, two different people with similar names. Tom "T-Bone" Wolk, longtime bass player in the SNL band, passed in 2010, but did indeed play mandolin on a lot of tracks - then again, so does Guy himself. Oddly enough, Thom Wolke is Guy Davis' manager.

Ranald
Jan-21-2023, 3:22pm
Thanks. My mistake, two Thom Wolke's with similar career paths.

journeybear
Jan-21-2023, 3:33pm
Two paths which intersected, in the studio. I wonder if T-Bone got the gig because of the name. :confused: It's too good a coincidence to ignore.

Mark Gunter
Jan-21-2023, 4:55pm
Love those pics JB, and the interesting tales. I've seen numerous pics of a young Joanie in bikini from Marina as well. I know it had to have been a blast picking with Erik ... it would really be cool to hear that tape with the Tambourine Man on it!

journeybear
Jan-21-2023, 5:31pm
It's on youtube. The sound quality is rough, so you might want to skip ahead to 27:00. The photo has naught to do with the music; it just pictures them both. :cool: BTW, the channel has tons of stuff. Careful - it's easy to get lost in there.

I see in the notes that's Richard Fariña on the left. And it's from Dylan's first trip to England in 1962.

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EdHanrahan
Jan-21-2023, 5:35pm
... from the Festival Express escapade across Canada ...

Yes, Festival Express. Ian Tyson on guitar at the far right. my personal all-time favorite singer. He died just last week, at 89.

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WHOA!! What I get for not paying attention - didn't realize there were 106 before me, AND that Ranald had already id'd Ian in that railroad car photo. Still gonna miss him, though.

Aside:
In '84 maybe, gas station window in Jackson, WY, had a concert poster for "Ian Tyson and the Chinook Arch Riders Band"... the previous night! It still hangs on my wall.

journeybear
Jan-21-2023, 10:35pm
Actually, he died late last year, 12/29/22. He was part of what seemed like a sudden rush of people to give up the ghost after what was a helluva year for a lot of people, not willing to take a chance on what 2023 would bring. (I know that's not how these things work, but it was like this past week: one after another, again and again.) Other greats we lost in the last days of 2022 include Anita Pointer, Barbara Walters, and Pelé.

But about Ian Tyson: Many reminiscences cited "Four Strong Winds" and "Summer Wages," as well they should. But my personal favorite song by him is "Someday Soon," so memorably done by Judy Collins. It might be the recording more than the writing, but it's such a great single. Also, one of my favorite one-hit wonders of the Folk-Rock Era is "You Were On My Mind," by We Five. Great arrangement and performance.

Oh, wait - written by Sylvia alone. Never mind ... :whistling:

tree
Jan-22-2023, 7:36am
Also, one of my favorite one-hit wonders of the Folk-Rock Era is "You Were On My Mind," by We Five. Great arrangement and performance.

Oh, wait - written by Sylvia alone. Never mind ... :whistling:

I've always been enamored of the guitar tone in that song. I would love to know exactly what guitar and rig (with all the settings) produced that sound.

Mark Gunter
Jan-22-2023, 9:00am
Had to give it a listen, I hadn’t heard You Were On My Mind ​in a long time. Thanks

Denny Gies
Jan-22-2023, 9:08am
Thank you, thank you, thank you. These are great fun.

journeybear
Jan-22-2023, 9:18am
I've always been enamored of the guitar tone in that song. I would love to know exactly what guitar and rig (with all the settings) produced that sound.

Surprise, surprise! There's a wikipedia page, with lots of information about it - but nothing of that sort. Still, I'm impressed that it went to #3, and Billboard had it as the #4 song of the year. :disbelief: I didn't think it was that big of a hit.

BTW, the band's founder, Michael Stewart, was the brother of John Stewart of The Kingston Trio. That's him on the left.

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Bill McCall
Jan-22-2023, 10:50am
Well I woke up this morning…….

They played at my high school in 1967 after Simon and Garfunkel cancelled:(

MikeEdgerton
Jan-22-2023, 4:02pm
BTW, the band's founder, Michael Stewart, was the brother of John Stewart of The Kingston Trio.

It's funny, I know that John Stewart was the second banjo player that the Kingston Trio had after the Dave Guard debacle but I never think of John in the context of being in the trio, I think of him as a stand alone artist that was pretty amazing on his own.

journeybear
Jan-22-2023, 7:11pm
Honestly, I'm not 100% sure I knew that, either. But wikipedia mentioned that factoid, so I passed it along. It seemed relevant insofar as this association might have helped Mike's career get a leg up. More than that, I dunno. :whistling:

EdHanrahan
Jan-24-2023, 10:10am
... always been enamored of the guitar tone in that song. ... what guitar and rig ...
Rig & settings, not so much. But various photos, even if not super-clearly, do show a Rickenbacker 12-string (credited to Bob Jones on Wiki).

The sound alone, at least to me, is obviously electric 12-string. I might guess at a Vox amp, w/ 10% chance of accuracy!

EdHanrahan
Jan-24-2023, 10:13am
(double post ... sorry!)

dscullin
Jan-24-2023, 2:17pm
Here are a couple of photos of the Osborne Brothers with Dale Sledd taken at BeanBlossom in 1968. I was a student at Indiana UniversityBloomington and made frequent weekend trips to Bill Monroe's Brown County Jamboree.205700205701

Bren
Jan-24-2023, 3:32pm
a show by Lucinda.

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I was at Lucinda's show in Glasgow last night. Long-time fan but first chance to see her live.
She had to be led onto the stage.
Later, she explained she'd had a stroke in 2020 - I guess most of the fans knew it already but I don't follow artists in that way, just listen to the music.

So she still can't play guitar since then but "I can still sing!" as she said.
Great performance, great band.

She turns 70 on Thursday.
"I'm tellin' everybody my age!" she said joyously from the stage, "I don't care who knows it"

journeybear
Jan-24-2023, 4:14pm
Yes, it was touch and go there for a while. Wasn't sure if she would be able to perform again. She's come a long way back, but still struggles. She's had to rely on her book of lyrics more than she used to. And she isn't socializing after shows anymore. Glad for what we get from her, which is still better than most, IMO. Sadly, missed her this summer - the show I was going to go to got cancelled because a couple of people in the tour got covid. On top of everything else. Not her, though, thank goodness. Yeah, if it was easy, more people would do it.

Mark Gunter
Sep-26-2023, 3:02pm
This photo was posted today in the Vintage Instruments forum, but I think it very much belongs here as well. It’s Sylvia, from Ian and Sylvia, playing an Octophone upside down, leftie

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