View Full Version : M-22V & M-4C

Jul-25-2005, 12:31pm
Here's a few pix of Doug's M22V...
The 22V has a 14 fret neck, and elevated fingerboard extension.

Jul-25-2005, 12:32pm

Jul-25-2005, 12:33pm
And the M-4C classic...
The 4C has the 12 fret neck and fingerboard glued to the top.

Jul-25-2005, 12:34pm

Jul-25-2005, 7:56pm
Hans, great photos of my soon to be M22V!! It is gorgeous. The scroll is fantastic. The sound will be superb. It will be well worth the wait. I am excited. Doug

Guitar Jeremy
Jul-25-2005, 11:22pm
Perfect as always. I love watching hard work pay off.

Steve Davis
Jul-26-2005, 11:48am
Beautiful work as always Hans. Someday I hope to own one of your superb mandolins. Is there any difference in sound between the two models, or is the difference mainly one of playability?

Jul-27-2005, 8:09am
Steve, the M22 seems to be a stronger instrument. When I compare it to my '21 F-4, the tone is very similar (excluding the fact that the Gibson is 90 yrs old), but more powerful, and a little sweeter (Italian spruce). My suspicion is that the M4C is a little less powerful than the M22, but I have only played it in the "white", so it's hard to say. We'll find out in a couple of weeks.

Aug-02-2005, 5:13pm
Hans, What is the M-4C??? Classic version of the M22? I would have thought the 12 fret would have more bass but the elevated fingerboard must help the top vibrate more freely? Are they both braced with the single transverse?
Dave H

Aug-02-2005, 7:15pm
Dave, the Model 4 Classic is an F-4 mandolin. We should be able to tell the difference between the two mandolins in a very short time. I just buffed the M-4 out today. It'll take a few days to harden up a bit, then I'll string it up. Since Doug's M22V is essentially brand new, it'll be a good comparison. Both instruments have the single transverse brace and use the same tonewood.The neck on the 22 is maple, and the neck on the 4C is mahogany. Both have a truss rod.

Tom C
Aug-02-2005, 7:20pm
That's the rossette that should be on f-4s. Love them.

Ed Ashley
Sep-09-2005, 7:04am
So what happened? Inquiring minds....

Sep-09-2005, 10:25am
At week two,with daily playing, the M22V is great. Fun to play and a nice fit in the hands. Doug

Sep-19-2005, 7:22pm
Hans, how do they compare tonally now that the M4C is finished?http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Dave H

Sep-23-2005, 7:44am
Dave & Ed,
The 22V is a stronger instrument (not louder), the trebles a bit more crisp, maybe you could say more focused. The 4C has a little more refined tone, the term delicate comes to mind (again has nothing to do with loudness). Another way to describe it might be to talk about attack and decay. The 22 seems to have a slightly quicker attack and faster decay. You might say it's faster off the pick. I would attribute the difference in tone is due mostly to the bridge placement, although some difference might be because of the neck materials used...maple vs mahogany.