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William Smith
Aug-27-2018, 4:27pm
Here is an idea of what these instruments can do to those who are interested, The F-7 conversion I played for the first time with these guys and flubbed a few notes and didn't do my real high break I usually do but still ok.

The other is of my doing some improvisation on the old Daybreak in Dixie tune on my 1936 F-5 Fern, both real great mandolins. Comments good or bad are welcome:)


https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.smith.7771586/videos/10212256490350164/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfhXx1wi9eA

Hopefully I'll be able to do some more with some other old Gibson's soon! Hope you enjoy!

William Smith
Aug-27-2018, 4:30pm
The other was a facebook video, you can click on that and watch, don't know why that didn't come up like the youtube video? Tech baffles me!!

William Smith
Aug-27-2018, 6:30pm
https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.smith.7771586/videos/10212256490350164/

I don't know why I can't show this video, any help?

pops1
Aug-27-2018, 7:03pm
https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.smith.7771586/videos/10212256490350164/

I don't know why I can't show this video, any help?

Won't work for me either, I am not a facebook member so I can't sign in, so no video.

MikeEdgerton
Aug-27-2018, 7:30pm
I'm assuming that video isn't set to share.

William Smith
Aug-28-2018, 2:34am
My wife may be able to help post later today, I was looking at everything and even trying to move the video to a new file but for me it might as well be in Chinese! So no luck tonight with the Fern posting! Bummer!

grassrootphilosopher
Aug-29-2018, 4:33am
Great F-7 conversion! I´m waiting for the Fern video!

William Smith
Aug-29-2018, 5:40am
Maybe today I can figure it out as I downloaded the facebook video to my computer files/documents but now still can't post because you need a www. thing that comes up when trying to insert the video, using above icon 2nd from the right? I'm clueless as of now how to post it!

William Smith
Aug-29-2018, 6:30am
https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.smith.7771586/videos/10212256490350164/UzpfSTEzMTUxODMwNTE6MTAyMTIyNzYxMDc3NjA1ODc/

Ok I'll ty this as she did something to share with the public, let me know if ya'll can watch now? If not I'll have to get a you tube account? Sorry for all the posts on trying to post this, very frustrating to me with limited tech knowledge! William

If I can figure this out I'll be able to post for you old Gibson mandolin lovers my really rare 1935 Gibson F-12 all original and another F-7 conversion by RWood, a 1934 and an original 1939 Gibson F-7, also a real rare 1of 7? 1937 Cromwell F-style "Gumby" a 1935 monster sounding Gibson A-50 with elevated board and when I get her back from Randy Wood a 1958 Gibson F-5, that one will have a new neck to my specs, a full internal re graduation and new tone bar placement to Loar style specs with a virzi! And when I get it back from Gary Vessel a 1924 Gibson Tenor Lute to mandola conversion. Maybe a few more goods I have laying around also like an all original 24 Gibson Tenor Lute with banjo neck and all-FUNNY!

pops1
Aug-29-2018, 8:11am
Still have to sign in and have an account.

William Smith
Aug-29-2018, 9:05am
BUMMER! I downloaded it to my computer files but there is no www. blah, blah for the video that is required to post a video like this, youtube yes?

DataNick
Aug-29-2018, 9:10am
Upload your downloaded video to your YouTube account...then all the world can see

MikeEdgerton
Aug-29-2018, 12:01pm
Upload your downloaded video to your YouTube account...then all the world can see

As long as you make it public. I have a slew of private Youtube videos.

soliver
Aug-29-2018, 12:12pm
Yep for those of us who are not on Facebook, I don't think it'll make any difference how it is shared. Its my understanding that only FB commercial accounts are visible to non FB users.

I agree with the above sentiments that it be put on YouTube.

William Smith
Aug-29-2018, 12:49pm
Well I spent 2 hours trying to get my old youtube account active as I forgot password what a hassle, I'll try again later, what a pain!

I'll try and figure it out as I really want to post old Gibson mandolins that many have never heard before! Some really rare pieces from the depression era mostly!

V70416
Sep-01-2018, 9:47pm
Yes,please. And thank you for your efforts.

I want to hear old Gibson mandolins like yours.

William Smith
Dec-08-2018, 6:36pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XZby5y3gD4OK, I figured out my you tube account so more to come here is the 36 F-5 Fern of me doing some improvisation on Daybreak In Dixie so be kind please..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XZby5y3gD4

William Smith
Dec-08-2018, 7:01pm
Alright it worked finally after a lot of computer torment for a guy like me, I'll try soon to get some slow something so you can hear the tone better of the old 36 Fern F-5 " I've played tons of 30's F-5's after this one and none compare!!!", and let me know what else you all would like to hear as I have an original 35 F-12 "maybe 1 of 4 left original", original 39 F-7, My Loar Buster F-7 in above post! 34 F-7 conversion, 37 Cromwell G-6 "1of7" Original Gumby F style! Also a 35 elevated board A-50 and a 24 Gibson Tenor Lute-original and a 24 Gibson Tenor Lute to Mandola conversion by the great Gary Vessel-a very dark sounding machine! Also a December 1st 1924 Gibson F-5 with Virzi signed by the man somebody named Lloyd Loar! Also I have that 1934 "Joe Wilson" F-5 copy that was talked about 10-15 years go here on the café, Its getting fixed right now as it needed serious help and David Harvey is doing the work and IS the man for the job! This one changed hands a lot I believe but no one put any ash into her and its such a killer old mando I can't believe no one did so well I am!! I have more but let me know what ya want to hear next and I'll get on it! My wife recorded the last one on her Kindle so that's pry the best I can do unless someone has any tips? Will

William Smith
Dec-09-2018, 4:33pm
Do Ya'll want to hear a different mandolin yet, Name it?
The previous old 36 Fern in the Daybreak tune is a mandolin that I had to have after hearing her on the Dusty Strings website/you tube demo they did and one with the GREAT David Grisman and his beautiful wife backing him up, it had the tone for sure, well David can pull tone out of the cheapest toy out there but this one spoke to me and MAS is a serious affliction!

Jim Garber
Dec-11-2018, 8:28pm
Try this bbcode (https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode#fbv) to get Facebook videos to show up.

sgarrity
Dec-12-2018, 9:57am
Nice playing and great tone! Now let’s hear that Loar! :mandosmiley:

grassrootphilosopher
Dec-12-2018, 11:25am
Thanks for the videos. Since you have a very fine stable of instruments I would very much like to hear them all.

As a suggestion I would like to hear a video that
- presents two instruments back to back per video (which limits the effort to record just two demos)
- take it slow (which helps to bring out the tone better)
- play in a small room (to prevent natural reverb and give a dry recording)

Most of all: Enjoy your mandolins, they sound great.

William Smith
Dec-18-2018, 1:35pm
I haven't had much time with the holidays to get a video up on my 24 Loar but here is the Demo of it for those who would like to hear this fine horn!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzAKn_PRusI

This one is what I believe Loar was going for in his last year, as he was a Virzi advocate, these ones seem to have a more refined tone. They aren't an in your face power mandolin but have certain overall elegant voice. :cool:

grassrootphilosopher
Dec-18-2018, 3:12pm
I haven't had much time with the holidays to get a video up on my 24 Loar but here is the Demo of it for those who would like to hear this fine horn!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzAKn_PRusI

This one is what I believe Loar was going for in his last year, as he was a Virzi advocate, these ones seem to have a more refined tone. They aren't an in your face power mandolin but have certain overall elegant voice. :cool:

Is that yours? If so, congrats.

But...

I´d rather have you play it (like I said in my previous post). Why? Because you played the other mandos as well. So the direct comparison holds a higher value for me than having someone else play the instrument.

One more thing. I really appreciate your effort. There´s the "post a video of yourself" thread. There´s the "song of the week" group. There´s the "I´ve got this new..." thread on most anything you can have mando-wise. I frequently read these threads. They get my urge going to post videos or soundfiles in them (or open a new thread myself). Yet, alas, time is of the essence and I don´t have the time. I wish Tom Isenhour, Scotty Adams, SternArt, F5Joe, LoudLoar and others I have on my radar would post some (more) music. This would really make my day. But I believe they have as little time as I do.

So... my hat is of to you for your effort. I´ll be waiting for your videos. Take your time but get them done.

William Smith
Dec-18-2018, 4:00pm
Thanks Olaf, I will get some done soon but the holidays and life right now is getting in the way, I posted the above because it was quick and already done-LoL, I'll get a few of me real soon ok.

pheffernan
Dec-18-2018, 6:21pm
This one is what I believe Loar was going for in his last year, as he was a Virzi advocate, these ones seem to have a more refined tone. They aren't an in your face power mandolin but have certain overall elegant voice. :cool:

Chris Thile often likens the difference to the elegance of a Bordeaux in contrast to a blow-your-head-off Napa Cab.

William Smith
Dec-31-2018, 9:43pm
Here is a post of my Loar Buster in an early band setting. The Backwoods Bluegrass band, and before that my Goodfellas Band-A hard drinking bar band, we played in a bunch of sometimes hairy bars!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXHj4JXwmTY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV0GcF7Tews

Someone requested Constant Sorrow and we never did before that night!:))

William Smith
Sep-06-2021, 8:30am
Its been awhile, well I have a video demo of two of my old F-5's, the 34 Fern and an early 38 Flowerpot. I made for a guy who was interested in maybe buying one but alas he was just a Mando-Kicker-Funny! I'll try and get some more at some point of some Loars, my computer is old so it took like 15 hours to upload this to youtube. Both of these pre-war F-5's are some of the best from that era! Both are carved really well, same with the tone bars-they aren't 2x4's like some I've seen and played. Also both have great necks! Hope ya'll like the Demo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCduJ7JoqGQ

William Smith
Sep-06-2021, 7:01pm
Oh the Fern was originally thought to be a 1936 but according to the FON# and comparing it with the consecutive # F-5 its a 1934. Thanks and more to eventually come of others!

GMeyer
Sep-10-2021, 10:09pm
Post a video of your 1935 A-50 please, I am really enjoying mine...
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William Smith
Sep-11-2021, 4:17am
Post a video of your 1935 A-50 please, I am really enjoying mine...
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I've sold them all-I've had about 10 of these but they allwent down the line!

NickR
Sep-11-2021, 11:16am
Your dog prefers the fern- and so do I - but they are both great!

William Smith
Nov-11-2021, 1:41pm
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Hendrik Ahrend
Nov-11-2021, 1:48pm
I'd like them both, Bill. Super mandolins, fine playing.:)

William Smith
Nov-11-2021, 2:25pm
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Oh I'm sorry, I ust wanted to showcase the voice of each old F-5!

Hendrik Ahrend
Nov-12-2021, 6:01pm
That's what I understood in the first place.

William Smith
Nov-12-2021, 6:10pm
It was my bad as I posted the 38 Flowerpot for sale, and then mentioned it when I posted the video a few days ago. MY FAULT! And I won't do that agin as I don't want banned. I wasn't thinking I guess!