PDA

View Full Version : Leavin'



lukmanohnz
Mar-25-2018, 9:20am
Never heard of this tune before, nor the band performing it. Could someone please enlighten me on who's playing the mandolin in this video?



https://youtu.be/U1EoIQCSKzA

George R. Lane
Mar-25-2018, 10:42am
Can't get the video to play.

willkamm
Mar-25-2018, 3:26pm
Same. No video. Or the mandolin player is Claude Rains.

willkamm
Mar-25-2018, 3:36pm
I found a video of a Bluegrass song called "Leavin." Is this it? THe mandolin player is someone named Don Rigsby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_BocvV_50U

lukmanohnz
Mar-25-2018, 7:38pm
Here's the link in case you are unable to see the embedded video in the original post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1EoIQCSKzA

Here's a nice profile on James King from Bluegrass Today on the sad occasion of his passing: https://bluegrasstoday.com/james-king-passes/

I suspect that the mandolinist in this video might be Kevin Prater. Here's a link to his web site - looks as though he is still an active performer: https://www.thekevinpraterband.com/kevin-prater

lukmanohnz
Mar-26-2018, 12:00am
I found a video of a Bluegrass song called "Leavin." Is this it? THe mandolin player is someone named Don Rigsby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_BocvV_50U
I do like that version with Don Rigsby. I saw Rigsby close up a few years ago at Walker Creek Music Camp. He brought the house down with his rendition of Kentucky Waltz.

J.Albert
Mar-26-2018, 5:44pm
That doesn't look like Kevin and it doesn't look like Don either.

I do miss James. He left us too early.

Ranald
Mar-26-2018, 6:34pm
According to Wikipedia, The James King Band had mandolinists named Kevin Prayer and Jesse Brock. Could it be Brock?
http://www.jessebrock.com/blog

Good music by the way.

lukmanohnz
Mar-27-2018, 9:14am
According to Wikipedia, The James King Band had mandolinists named Kevin Prayer and Jesse Brock. Could it be Brock?
http://www.jessebrock.com/blog

Good music by the way.
I think Jesse Brock might be too young to be the mandolinist in that video - the Wikipedia article says he was on King’s final recordings circa 2013. And ‘Prayer’ appears to be a typo. It is spelled ‘Prater’ (see my earlier post for a link to his web site). I’m still stumped. Anyone else got a clue? Anybody?? Bueller?

Willie Poole
Mar-27-2018, 10:46am
It surely isn`t Jesse Brock...I know Jesse pretty well....I have seen that mandolin player before but don`t know his name.....

Willie

Ivan Kelsall
Apr-01-2018, 4:11am
I first heard the song done by the original 'Longview' band quite a while back,James King was the lead singer. Don Rigsby played mandolin / Joe Mullins - banjo / Marshall Wilborn - bass / Dudley Connell - guitar / Glenn Duncan - fiddle,
Ivan

AlanN
Apr-01-2018, 9:01am
James was well-known for using assorted pickers for his shows, pretty much whoever was available, eager and anxious. Rest his soul.

lukmanohnz
Apr-03-2018, 9:01am
James was well-known for using assorted pickers for his shows, pretty much whoever was available, eager and anxious. Rest his soul. So is the identity of this mandolinist lost to antiquity?? That guy played with some serious attitude - I love how he emphasized his licks with a roll of his shoulders. He was into the tune and the performance. It might not be the most amazing mandolin break ever recorded, but he was a solid player with chops and I’ll give that picker his due. FWIW I still think it might be Kevin Prater but I’m hoping a cafe member can confirm/identify him with some degree of certainty.

Willie Poole
Apr-03-2018, 12:40pm
I Googled the name Kevin Prater and what came up was not the same person that is shown with James King....Could there be more than on? Could be I guess...

Willie

AlanN
Apr-03-2018, 12:49pm
Well, I can't confirm his identity but I can deny that it's Kevin Prater - no how, no way.

ManjoMan
Apr-03-2018, 12:57pm
That is definitely Don Rigsby. His stance and the way he holds the mandolin are unique to tell it's him.

AlanN
Apr-03-2018, 1:22pm
That is definitely Don Rigsby. His stance and the way he holds the mandolin are unique to tell it's him.

No way.

lukmanohnz
Apr-03-2018, 1:38pm
No way.

Agreed. I am almost certain without a doubt that it is NOT Don Rigsby. I've seen Don live and unless he changed a whole bunch about his pick grip, the position of his mandolin relative to his body, and his physique, that's not Don Rigsby.

Ivan Kelsall
Apr-04-2018, 2:44am
It looks like Don Rigsby to my eyes :- ''Band of Ruhks'' - Bootleg John. Same beard & the way he holds the mandolin lokks pretty much the same,
Ivan;)

https://youtu.be/5RtZxF5662U

lukmanohnz
Apr-04-2018, 7:19am
That leaves the mystery still unsolved. I thought sure someone at the cafe would peg that picker in no time.

BTW - that’s a great video of Don, Ivan. Thanks for posting it!

Philphool
Apr-04-2018, 10:52am
Are you guys even looking at the right picture? Some are showing the wrong video, not the one the OP is asking about.

Here's the guy:166499

Not Brock; not Rigsby!!! (I've seen them both, many times.)

AlanN
Apr-04-2018, 11:03am
I asked Alan Bibey who this guy is. Even he did not know. So, that settles it: he doesn't exist.

lukmanohnz
Apr-04-2018, 9:08pm
I asked Alan Bibey who this guy is. Even he did not know. So, that settles it: he doesn't exist. Dang! That's gotta be the best mandolin-playing phantom I've ever heard....

Still mystified that nobody seems to be able to identify this player.

Ivan Kelsall
Apr-05-2018, 2:44am
That guy sure as heck looks like Wayne Taylor ex.''US Country Current Bluegrass Band'',now with ''Appaloosa'' - https://bluegrasstoday.com/wayne-taylor-and-appaloosa-2/ Did WT ever play mandolin ??.

From 'Wayne Taylor Productions' :- "......Shortly after that, he and David formed the "East Maiden Express" bluegrass group, where Wayne played mandolin.'',
Ivan:grin:

AlanN
Apr-05-2018, 6:07am
You're right, Ivan; it most certainly does. And since that video was clearly shot some years back, judging by the appearance of both James and the bass player (who I will be catching next month when Sideline hosts Lil John's Mountain Music Festival in Snow Camp, NC
http://www.littlejohnsmountainmusic.com/), it may well be Wayne. If we are still scratching our collective heads about this, I will ask Jason who it was.

ManjoMan
Apr-05-2018, 6:13am
That is definitely Don Rigsby. His stance and the way he holds the mandolin are unique to tell it's him.

You guys are right. I was not looking at the same video as the OP. That guy is way to skinny to be Don Rigsby...

Jeroen
Apr-05-2018, 6:44am
Dudley Connell, I'd say.

lukmanohnz
Apr-05-2018, 7:10am
You're right, Ivan; it most certainly does. And since that video was clearly shot some years back, judging by the appearance of both James and the bass player (who I will be catching next month when Sideline hosts Lil John's Mountain Music Festival in Snow Camp, NC
http://www.littlejohnsmountainmusic.com/), it may well be Wayne. If we are still scratching our collective heads about this, I will ask Jason who it was. Now we're getting somewhere! I knew you guys would come through. I did a quick online search and found the web site for Wayne's current band which includes contact info. I've asked the man directly - I'll let you know if I get a response. Thanks for the assist!!

And if it's Wayne, looks as though he moved on to rhythm guitar and bandleader, and has handed over mandolin responsibilities to others. No doubt about who the mandolinist is in this video - that's Emory Lester. Wayne keeps pretty good company!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OfYmgsQy_E#action=share

Ivan Kelsall
Apr-05-2018, 7:17am
Hi Alan - Go ahead & ask anyway. Confirmation is always good. Wayne taylor is one of my favourite singers in Bluegrass. I have the ''US Country Current Bluegrass'' CD with WT in the band,that's why i recognised the facial similarity,
Ivan ;)

AlanN
Apr-05-2018, 7:23am
Dudley Connell, I'd say.

Uh...no.

David Lewis
Apr-05-2018, 7:52am
Itís not him, but at first I thought it was tony rice on mandolin.

J.Albert
Apr-06-2018, 5:37pm
Ivan, I think you've found the answer!
That -does- look like a young Wayne...

Jeroen
Apr-07-2018, 3:21am
If that's Wayne Taylor, we have a new mystery: What turned that great piercing tenor into Wayne's lazy baritone?

Ivan Kelsall
Apr-07-2018, 3:28am
Jeroen - I suspect that like many 'good' singers,Wayne has a fairly wide range of tones in his voice. After all,Bill Monroe ''The Father of High Lonesome'' didn't sing at top pitch all the time,neither did his back up singers. Many singers with bands,are required to sing 'however' they're asked to. However,age plays a part in it as well. Once upon a time,i could sing ''Little Maggie'' in B,as per my favourite version by Ralph Stanley (attached). 20 years later,i'd have to come down an octave,but by that time my vocal skills had all but vanished,
Ivan;)

https://youtu.be/msOPKTbpAUk

Jeroen
Apr-07-2018, 3:52am
Ivan, I would be surprised by not so much the range as rather the timbre. But hey, surprise me.

Willie Poole
Apr-07-2018, 12:22pm
I googled Bill Emerson & Sweet Dix1e and in a few of those videos that came up the mandolin player does look somewhat like the same fellow that is with James King but those photos were quite a few years apart...I have seen Country Current many times since they were housed in the DC area and that is possibly where I had seen that mandolin player before...I also googled Wayne Taylor but nothing showed up that would prove that it is him...

Surely someone by now would be able to name him, I know that I have seen him at some festivals around this area...

Willie

AlanN
May-24-2018, 5:34am
Ok, sports fans, mystery solved. The picker is Brian Wetzel, from Maryland. That video was shot ~ 1993. Info straight from the bass man who was...wait for it...playing bass at that show. I can now sleep at night.

Willie Poole
May-24-2018, 9:36am
Holy Cow, Why couldn`t I recall that...Of course I have met him around the circuit but just couldn`t remember where or put a name to the face.. after all 1993 was a long time ago.....Have a good nights rest Alan...

Willie

Ivan Kelsall
May-25-2018, 1:31am
From AlanN - " The picker is Brian Wetzel, from Maryland. " . He changed his name to Wayne Taylor shortly after !!.:grin:

Thanks Alan - mystery cleared up,
Ivan;)